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expiredYouhaku posted Nov 17, 2022 08:38 AM
expiredYouhaku posted Nov 17, 2022 08:38 AM

Razer Viper Ultimate Wireless Gaming Mouse & RGB Dock (Cyberpunk 2077 Edition) $80 + Free Shipping

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Amazon has Razer Viper Ultimate Lightweight Wireless Gaming Mouse & RGB Charging Dock (Cyberpunk 2077 Edition) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Same deal as the one posted 9/25 that went front page.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Ulti...HL84&psc=1
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Amazon has Razer Viper Ultimate Lightweight Wireless Gaming Mouse & RGB Charging Dock (Cyberpunk 2077 Edition) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Same deal as the one posted 9/25 that went front page.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Ulti...HL84&psc=1

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Model: Razer Viper Ultimate Lightweight Wireless Gaming Mouse & RGB Charging Dock: Hyperspeed Wireless Technology - 20K DPI Optical Sensor - 78g Lightweight - Optical Mouse Switch - Cyberpunk 2077 Edition

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Nov 17, 2022 10:40 AM
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IceboieNov 17, 2022 10:40 AM
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Bumblebee, transform and roll out.
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Nov 17, 2022 08:44 PM
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What about this mouse makes it worth $80, let alone $160?

What feature does it has that I didn't know I need? 😜
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Nov 19, 2022 03:03 AM
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MiraiKitNov 19, 2022 03:03 AM
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Quote from gamingdroid :
What about this mouse makes it worth $80, let alone $160?

What feature does it has that I didn't know I need? 😜
Gaming mice have higher "resolution" for precision and response rates along with some other features like lighter materials to decrease hand fatigue, but yeah for normal people you won't notice the difference.
Nov 19, 2022 03:14 AM
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revocNov 19, 2022 03:14 AM
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I have used gaming mice for so long that even if I stopped playing games, I could never go back to regular office mice. The analogy I can think of is when you're used to driving cars built to perform at a high level, it's hard to go back to an everyday commuter car.

This Cyberpunk branding looks to be the most unfortunate branding ever.
Nov 19, 2022 03:18 AM
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IAMNEOneNov 19, 2022 03:18 AM
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black one is same price, am I missing something or are they the same otherwise?
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Nov 19, 2022 04:02 AM
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Quote from MiraiKit :
Gaming mice have higher "resolution" for precision and response rates along with some other features like lighter materials to decrease hand fatigue, but yeah for normal people you won't notice the difference.
Didn't gaming mouse used to have weights to make them heavier?
Nov 19, 2022 12:03 PM
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MiraiKitNov 19, 2022 12:03 PM
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Quote from gamingdroid :
Didn't gaming mouse used to have weights to make them heavier?
LOL probably. I guess they realized that doesn't work well for long term gaming. lately you'll see lots of mice with cringe-inducing holes/vents to reduce to the weight, nightmare for OCD people.

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Quote from MiraiKit :
LOL probably. I guess they realized that doesn't work well for long term gaming. lately you'll see lots of mice with cringe-inducing holes/vents to reduce to the weight, nightmare for OCD people.
I can't stand light mouses, as it feels cheap. I prefer a little weight to it, but I don't play a lot of games with m/kb and certainly not enough to have fatigue.

Also, I don't need those magical super powers that come with these supposed snake oil devices.
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Nov 21, 2022 12:33 AM
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ShimejiiNov 21, 2022 12:33 AM
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Quote from MiraiKit :
LOL probably. I guess they realized that doesn't work well for long term gaming. lately you'll see lots of mice with cringe-inducing holes/vents to reduce to the weight, nightmare for OCD people.
Thats fine for a very tiny population. The holes are actually fine, ive used both with and without them, and the light weight does help with accuracy. People who dont notice the difference simply are just not good enough at games to notice them. Thats fine, most people are just Eh at games anyway.

I can tell you going from a G502 to a Zowie S2 Divina was a massive change for me, and it was a decent improvement. Heavy mice are just worse for FPS and such. There is no getting around that, peoples preferences is fine and if they prefer it then so be it, that doesnt change the facts.

Razer Quality control issues is something id warn any user against buying any of their products. They do not stand behind their products, they know they are built to break and not last long, most companies sadly do this but razer takes it to another level. They are great when you first buy them, and within 6 months you will already notice the wearing down of certain components. Anything beyond the first year, especially after 2, is quite rare for these products sadly.
Nov 21, 2022 12:41 AM
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MiraiKitNov 21, 2022 12:41 AM
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Quote from Shimejii :
Thats fine for a very tiny population. The holes are actually fine, ive used both with and without them, and the light weight does help with accuracy. People who dont notice the difference simply are just not good enough at games to notice them. Thats fine, most people are just Eh at games anyway.

I can tell you going from a G502 to a Zowie S2 Divina was a massive change for me, and it was a decent improvement. Heavy mice are just worse for FPS and such. There is no getting around that, peoples preferences is fine and if they prefer it then so be it, that doesnt change the facts.

Razer Quality control issues is something id warn any user against buying any of their products. They do not stand behind their products, they know they are built to break and not last long, most companies sadly do this but razer takes it to another level. They are great when you first buy them, and within 6 months you will already notice the wearing down of certain components. Anything beyond the first year, especially after 2, is quite rare for these products sadly.
So I understand you correctly, going to the Benq mouse gave you better performance than the more expensive Logitech, mainly due to the lighter weight?
Nov 21, 2022 12:47 AM
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ShimejiiNov 21, 2022 12:47 AM
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Quote from MiraiKit :
So I understand you correctly, going to the Benq mouse gave you better performance than the more expensive Logitech, mainly due to the lighter weight?
Correct. Also the G502 was like 30$ at the time, the newer ones are all much more expensive. Lightweight mice do make a big difference, practice helps and once you get use to it, try the heavier mouse again, you will notice that you tend to do better with the light mouse.

Generally the light weight helps you be a lot more accurate, with a good amount of tuning with DPI (since every mouse will have a different DPI amount, 1100 DPI on one mouse is not 1100 DPI on the other) it should help for Shooter games and such.
Nov 21, 2022 01:07 AM
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MiraiKitNov 21, 2022 01:07 AM
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Quote from Shimejii :
Correct. Also the G502 was like 30$ at the time, the newer ones are all much more expensive. Lightweight mice do make a big difference, practice helps and once you get use to it, try the heavier mouse again, you will notice that you tend to do better with the light mouse.

Generally the light weight helps you be a lot more accurate, with a good amount of tuning with DPI (since every mouse will have a different DPI amount, 1100 DPI on one mouse is not 1100 DPI on the other) it should help for Shooter games and such.
I still can't used to playing FPS with m+k. Ironically, I started off with the m+k all the way from the original wolfenstein (well kb only for that) until the ps3 era through now when I've exclusively played on console so I think I've actually spent more years with the controller now.
I finally decided to invest in a good gaming pc a few months ago, and am having a very difficult adjustment with FPS games. While the mouse is definitely more precise and accurate, my overall performance is worse due to the mouse movement differences and also reaching for keys on the keyboard.
Not sure if I'm just too old now to adapt, or if it's worth trying a better gaming mouse.
Nov 21, 2022 03:06 AM
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ShimejiiNov 21, 2022 03:06 AM
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Quote from MiraiKit :
I still can't used to playing FPS with m+k. Ironically, I started off with the m+k all the way from the original wolfenstein (well kb only for that) until the ps3 era through now when I've exclusively played on console so I think I've actually spent more years with the controller now.
I finally decided to invest in a good gaming pc a few months ago, and am having a very difficult adjustment with FPS games. While the mouse is definitely more precise and accurate, my overall performance is worse due to the mouse movement differences and also reaching for keys on the keyboard.
Not sure if I'm just too old now to adapt, or if it's worth trying a better gaming mouse.
It honestly depends on the game. Game like COD are pretty dogshit for Mouse and key because of the controller peps are dogshit so they pretty much have to amp up the Aim assist to an extreme. Now they pretty much have an Auto aiming bot without much input.

Other games that have a lot more precise control, it will vary. Some games really do well because of the recoil, precise movements with scopes, and other stuff. It takes a while to get use to every games spray patterns, recoil rates, but once you do its just a process of dialing it in.

You arent to old, unless your 50+ you should be fine.

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