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Elgato HD60 X 1080p60 HDR10 External Capture Card - $150

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Nov 19, 2022
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bieberwhole69
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imo the xr1 pro is way better.. more versatile.. right now it's marked up.. but for months it was around $80-120. i'm sure it'll be back down soon
Nov 19, 2022
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shouthouse
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Quote from bieberwhole69 :
imo the xr1 pro is way better.. more versatile.. right now it's marked up.. but for months it was around $80-120. i'm sure it'll be back down soon
Came here to say this. I agree. Why spend this much on 1080p when the XR1 will do 4k. It goes on sale often.
Nov 22, 2022
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auadix
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Quote from shouthouse :
Came here to say this. I agree. Why spend this much on 1080p when the XR1 will do 4k. It goes on sale often.
For what I read both are passthrough 4K but are 1080p 60fps to stream. And I seeing it wrong? Not knowledgeable in this matter and I'm looking to something to start to record my consoles gameplay
Nov 22, 2022
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shouthouse
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Quote from auadix :
For what I read both are passthrough 4K but are 1080p 60fps to stream. And I seeing it wrong? Not knowledgeable in this matter and I'm looking to something to start to record my consoles gameplay
You right. My mistake. Still, the XR1 would save you $70

EDIT: No wait. You're not right. XR1 Pro can capture up to 4k30 with auto HDR tonemapping and everything up to that resolution. So the XR1 Pro is easily the better buy here.

Information found here: https://www.evga.com/articles/015...re-device/
Last edited by shouthouse November 23, 2022 at 02:48 PM.
Nov 22, 2022
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bieberwhole69
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elgato: https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/...esolutions

evga xr1 pro: https://www.evga.com/products/pro...U1-CB21-LR

just make sure it supports the things you want to do.. i.g. passthrough, capture, input.. all important.
also consider that HDCP can be totally disabled on the evga xr1 pro so you won't have any issues that arise with hdcp. i.g. if you wanted to stream your ipad or something on discord to friends, you wouldn't be able to do that with the elgato.. or capture your ipad gameplay for youtube.. can't do that with the elgato... at least to my understanding of what's on the elgato website.

whereas, elgato: "High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a digital copy protection system commonly associated with DisplayPort, DVI or HDMI connections. HDCP prevents the recording and piracy of commercial movies and TV shows.

Elgato capture devices cannot capture HDMI signals with HDCP protection enabled. "

however, looking at the elgato supported input resolution and then what it can capture at that resolution, it looks more capable than the xr1 if I'm reading their chart correctly. and evga doesn't really have a good list of supported input resolutions with the their capture resolutions.

chart: https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/...esolutions

If you wanted to get a capture card RIGHT NOW and don't care about the HDCP limitation of the elgato, I would probably just get the hd60 x.

also another plus of the hd60 x, which finally after almost 8 years, they've put both input and output on the same side... jesus these companies are so dumb when it comes to things like this. the xr1 still has the dumbest input on one end and output on the other end.

if I were in the market for a capture card right now.. I'd 100% get the elgato at $150.. that's pretty good tbh.. esp since they list all the supported capture/input/passthrough specs clearly. AND all the ports are on one side.. even more reason to get it over the xr1 right now. but yeah.. if the xr1 was back to the 99$ i would say just get that if all you want is 1080p input/capture/passthrough @60/120/144
Last edited by bieberwhole69 November 22, 2022 at 01:40 PM.
Nov 23, 2022
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auadix
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Quote from bieberwhole69 :
elgato: https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/...esolutions

evga xr1 pro: https://www.evga.com/products/pro...U1-CB21-LR

just make sure it supports the things you want to do.. i.g. passthrough, capture, input.. all important.
also consider that HDCP can be totally disabled on the evga xr1 pro so you won't have any issues that arise with hdcp. i.g. if you wanted to stream your ipad or something on discord to friends, you wouldn't be able to do that with the elgato.. or capture your ipad gameplay for youtube.. can't do that with the elgato... at least to my understanding of what's on the elgato website.

whereas, elgato: "High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a digital copy protection system commonly associated with DisplayPort, DVI or HDMI connections. HDCP prevents the recording and piracy of commercial movies and TV shows.

Elgato capture devices cannot capture HDMI signals with HDCP protection enabled. "

however, looking at the elgato supported input resolution and then what it can capture at that resolution, it looks more capable than the xr1 if I'm reading their chart correctly. and evga doesn't really have a good list of supported input resolutions with the their capture resolutions.

chart: https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/...esolutions

If you wanted to get a capture card RIGHT NOW and don't care about the HDCP limitation of the elgato, I would probably just get the hd60 x.

also another plus of the hd60 x, which finally after almost 8 years, they've put both input and output on the same side... jesus these companies are so dumb when it comes to things like this. the xr1 still has the dumbest input on one end and output on the other end.

if I were in the market for a capture card right now.. I'd 100% get the elgato at $150.. that's pretty good tbh.. esp since they list all the supported capture/input/passthrough specs clearly. AND all the ports are on one side.. even more reason to get it over the xr1 right now. but yeah.. if the xr1 was back to the 99$ i would say just get that if all you want is 1080p input/capture/passthrough @60/120/144
Dude, you're amazing! Thank you for the very helpful definition of the differences and detailed analysis. I decided to go with the HD60x after that, I don't think I will be doing any ipad streaming. I just really want to have fun telling stories and playing games. Smilie Thank you!
Nov 23, 2022
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shouthouse
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Quote from bieberwhole69 :
elgato: https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/...esolutions [elgato.com]

evga xr1 pro: https://www.evga.com/products/pro...U1-CB21-LR [evga.com]

just make sure it supports the things you want to do.. i.g. passthrough, capture, input.. all important.
also consider that HDCP can be totally disabled on the evga xr1 pro so you won't have any issues that arise with hdcp. i.g. if you wanted to stream your ipad or something on discord to friends, you wouldn't be able to do that with the elgato.. or capture your ipad gameplay for youtube.. can't do that with the elgato... at least to my understanding of what's on the elgato website.

whereas, elgato: "High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a digital copy protection system commonly associated with DisplayPort, DVI or HDMI connections. HDCP prevents the recording and piracy of commercial movies and TV shows.

Elgato capture devices cannot capture HDMI signals with HDCP protection enabled. "

however, looking at the elgato supported input resolution and then what it can capture at that resolution, it looks more capable than the xr1 if I'm reading their chart correctly. and evga doesn't really have a good list of supported input resolutions with the their capture resolutions.

chart: https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/...esolutions [elgato.com]

If you wanted to get a capture card RIGHT NOW and don't care about the HDCP limitation of the elgato, I would probably just get the hd60 x.

also another plus of the hd60 x, which finally after almost 8 years, they've put both input and output on the same side... jesus these companies are so dumb when it comes to things like this. the xr1 still has the dumbest input on one end and output on the other end.

if I were in the market for a capture card right now.. I'd 100% get the elgato at $150.. that's pretty good tbh.. esp since they list all the supported capture/input/passthrough specs clearly. AND all the ports are on one side.. even more reason to get it over the xr1 right now. but yeah.. if the xr1 was back to the 99$ i would say just get that if all you want is 1080p input/capture/passthrough @60/120/144
From my understanding the XR1 pro pretty much handles any input resolution and can passthrough up to 4k60 HDR and will capture upt to 4k30 with HDR tone mapping if needed. Maybe they didn't put out a chart because they just support pretty much everything you'd think to try? (sans 4k120)

In fact here is the list, what resolutions are you saying it doesn't support? Looking at that Elgato chart... is terrible. They could have handled it far better.

Video Input Resolution: 480p@60fps
576p@50fps
720p@50fps / @60fps
1080p@30fps / @60fps / @120fps / @144fps / @240fps HDR
1440p@30fps / @60fps / @144fps HDR
4K@30fps / @60fps HDR

Video Pass through Resolution: 480p@60fps
576p@50fps
720p@50fps / @60fps
1080p@30fps / @60fps / @120fps / @144fps / @240fps HDR
1440p@30fps / @60fps / @144fps HDR
4K@30fps / @60fps HDR

Max. Capture Resolution: 4K@30fps

As far as my testing goes, it captures at every resolution up to that 4k30
Last edited by shouthouse November 23, 2022 at 02:57 PM.

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Quote from shouthouse :
From my understanding the XR1 pro pretty much handles any input resolution and can passthrough up to 4k60 HDR and will capture upt to 4k30 with HDR tone mapping if needed. Maybe they didn't put out a chart because they just support pretty much everything you'd think to try? (sans 4k120)

In fact here is the list, what resolutions are you saying it doesn't support? Looking at that Elgato chart... is terrible. They could have handled it far better.

Video Input Resolution: 480p@60fps
576p@50fps
720p@50fps / @60fps
1080p@30fps / @60fps / @120fps / @144fps / @240fps HDR
1440p@30fps / @60fps / @144fps HDR
4K@30fps / @60fps HDR

Video Pass through Resolution: 480p@60fps
576p@50fps
720p@50fps / @60fps
1080p@30fps / @60fps / @120fps / @144fps / @240fps HDR
1440p@30fps / @60fps / @144fps HDR
4K@30fps / @60fps HDR

Max. Capture Resolution: 4K@30fps

As far as my testing goes, it captures at every resolution up to that 4k30

YEP.. just as the link I posted showed.. all the XR1 PRO specs available. It's why I linked it.

yeah the elgato chart was really confusing.. i spent like 10 minutes trying to figure it out.. slow brain ig.. but what they do make clear is what input and passthrough res@hz work with what capturing res@hz. evga does a shit job of showing this same information.. simply putting up to 4k@30 / @60 just means you have to assume everything works with everything? ig? at least elgato has a shit chart to show what works with what. i.g. the chart shows that you can input AND passthrough 1440p@120, but you cannot capture 1080@60 HDR.. i mean maybe that's just obvious, but at least it's in the documentation. evga just has "Max. Capture Resolution: 4K@30fps" like wtf does that mean.. can input AND passthrough 1440p@144 and capture at 1080p@30/60/120/144???? or capture 1440p@30/60/120/144 at the same time? One would assume so, but that's assuming. I'm pretty sure previous capture cards had limitations to what they could input/passthrough and ALSO capture. i.g. inputting 1440p/4k but only being able to passthrough 1080p but also only being able to capture 1080p and not even 1440p/4k

so yeah.. i dunno.. it's pretty obvious to me how elgato's shit chart is actually way more helpful than just listing the individual "input" "passthrough" and "max capture" info INDIVIDUALLY and not stating what works with what.

that said, I do own the XR1 PRO.. but I'd still recommend getting the elgato at this time since the XR1's current price is trash.
Last edited by bieberwhole69 November 23, 2022 at 03:58 PM.
Nov 25, 2022
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Quote from bieberwhole69 :
YEP.. just as the link I posted showed.. all the XR1 PRO specs available. It's why I linked it.

yeah the elgato chart was really confusing.. i spent like 10 minutes trying to figure it out.. slow brain ig.. but what they do make clear is what input and passthrough res@hz work with what capturing res@hz. evga does a shit job of showing this same information.. simply putting up to 4k@30 / @60 just means you have to assume everything works with everything? ig? at least elgato has a shit chart to show what works with what. i.g. the chart shows that you can input AND passthrough 1440p@120, but you cannot capture 1080@60 HDR.. i mean maybe that's just obvious, but at least it's in the documentation. evga just has "Max. Capture Resolution: 4K@30fps" like wtf does that mean.. can input AND passthrough 1440p@144 and capture at 1080p@30/60/120/144???? or capture 1440p@30/60/120/144 at the same time? One would assume so, but that's assuming. I'm pretty sure previous capture cards had limitations to what they could input/passthrough and ALSO capture. i.g. inputting 1440p/4k but only being able to passthrough 1080p but also only being able to capture 1080p and not even 1440p/4k

so yeah.. i dunno.. it's pretty obvious to me how elgato's shit chart is actually way more helpful than just listing the individual "input" "passthrough" and "max capture" info INDIVIDUALLY and not stating what works with what.

that said, I do own the XR1 PRO.. but I'd still recommend getting the elgato at this time since the XR1's current price is trash.
The software you use controls the capture so it doesn't matter what Elgato says that it can do. If I pull in a 4k30 signal I can just use OBS to downscale to 1080p when recording. It doesn't matter what Elgato says it can do. It's not a super relevant piece of information.


Edit: The XR1 Pro is on sale again https://www.evga.com/products/pro...U1-CB21-LR
Last edited by shouthouse November 25, 2022 at 08:07 AM.

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