expired Posted by Jaggsta • Dec 20, 2022
Dec 20, 2022 11:52 PM
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expired Posted by Jaggsta • Dec 20, 2022
Dec 20, 2022 11:52 PM
Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core LGA 1700 Processor
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KF = unlocked, no integrated graphics
F = Not unlocked, no integrated graphics
K = Unlocked, integrated graphics
With KF and F, one will also need a graphics card.
Look, I'm rooting for AMD, the better they perform, the better Intel will perform, and the industry moves forward faster, and we get new tech faster, so GO AMD.
In 2017 I bought an I-5 8400/H370 combo which was beating the 1600 in games.
This holiday season, I decided to rebuild, looking forward to upcoming Pcie 5.0+ x8 graphics cards that seem to becoming a fad, for example, upcoming Navi 33, which is rumored to pack more power than a 6800xt, maybe close to the 6900xt (sounds like BS but lets hope).
All I had to buy was a 115$ mobo and a $170 cpu and now I have 60% more single core performance, and pcie 5.0.
If I was a 1600 owner, I could upgrade to the 5600, which I've seen for like, $130 and is an excellent chip, but would leave me stuck on pcie 3.0 on what would be a B350 board.
To go AMD to get pcie 5.0, I'd have to have bought the 7600x, which was as low as $240, or the upcoming 7600 which is expected to msrp at $230, plus a $200-300 mobo and another $150+ for new ram.
I understand AMD if you want to spend often and upgrade a lot, but it's not price/performance for someone like me, at least not during the times I go to upgrade.
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You could power limit a 12600K to 65W too, if BIOS allows.
Based on MSRP, the 13400s will be in the $200 range, so I'm not really sure it's worth waiting for over this.
Especially for gamers; all they need is good single core speed and a gpu.
You could power limit a 12600K to 65W too, if BIOS allows.
Based on MSRP, the 13400s will be in the $200 range, so I'm not really sure it's worth waiting for over this.
See OP's Rumor link above this post.
You could power limit a 12600K to 65W too, if BIOS allows.
Based on MSRP, the 13400s will be in the $200 range, so I'm not really sure it's worth waiting for over this.
https://videocardz.com/newz/unrel...d-in-cpu-z
I mean, RL did increase speeds and cores, but it doesn't looks like there was a meaningful IPC increase, maybe 3-5%.
So who's gonna buy the 13400? Budget gamers? They don't care how many extra multicore performance it has.
Nope,not if it's only like 5% faster in games (ONLY with a TOP END GPU) than the 12400f, which is is like, 150-160$, and when GPU limited, (like budget gamers usually will be), the difference will be imperceptible.
But then, since the 13400f is basically junk silicon, the most cut down version of both dies, maybe we'll see IT hit a $150ish tag soon, and THEN it will be worth it for gamers.
But right now, coming out of the holiday season at $200+, you'll pretty much just see it in prebuilts, which is a GREAT market for the 13400 since it gets a graphics upgrade over the 12400 (UHD 770 vs 730)
Especially for gamers; all they need is good single core speed and a gpu.
IMO The real difference comes in getting ~60fps on a fast 120hz+ VRR monitor as opposed to getting a "locked to 60fps/vsync" on a 60hz monitor, as the latency will be much lower with VRR and the game will feel much more responsive.
I just ordered a preowned 3060ti on ebay for $289 and that should take me to ~100fps 1440p (Modern games)
Jealous of your OLED, pcman2000. OLED is definitely the future of high refresh gaming, with response times measured in the hundredths of milliseconds, and believe budget gamers like wut and I can't wait for that sweet, sweet display technology to trickle down to us.
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Anyone wanna chime in?
But the primary video slot on the now out of warranty x470 MB is dead and putting the GPU in the secondary slot works but really messes with video performance and system stability (installing AMD drivers crashes it), plus I just got a 1TB 980 Pro M.2 SSD that runs at half its potential on an x470 MB.
So I was going to get a new x570 MB, install the 980 Pro on it and keep everything else for now and maybe get a 5600 and better GPU down the line (and yes, I know that the 980 Pro requires a 3000 or higher AMD CPU to run at full potential, but with a new x570 at least I'm halfway there).
But then I read about the i5-12400 and how it beats the 5600 in most areas, and started looking into going that route instead since I'm replacing the MB, but decided to stick with AMD because a new x570 MB is around $170 and doesn't require a new CPU, whereas going Intel would require a new MB for around the same PLUS the CPU, for around $180 for an i5-12400.
But now that the superior i5-12600KF is only $20 more (than the i5-12400 with an internal GPU of course, but I'd very rarely if ever use it and even the RX 560 is probably much faster than it), I have to rethink things yet again. Oh options, how I hate thee!
You could power limit a 12600K to 65W too, if BIOS allows.
Based on MSRP, the 13400s will be in the $200 range, so I'm not really sure it's worth waiting for over this.
Anyone wanna chime in?
So, stupid question. Is there any good reason to not get a Z690/i5-12600KF for $340 (or Z690/i5-12400 for $320) and get an x570/5600 for $300 instead?
ANY reason?
...Ok, just realized, this doesn't come with a fan or heatsink, so I'd need to get one and factor that into the total cost of MB + CPU + HS/F. Which are decent one to get if I'm not looking to do anything too crazy with this, and what am I looking at, cost-wise? And could I reuse my AMD 2600X's bundled HS/F safely, so long as I didn't push things too far?
Only if the 13400's performance per watt is greater than the 12600K does it start to look interesting in comparison.
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