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Klein Tools MM400 600V Auto-Ranging Digital Multimeter

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Home Depot has Klein Tools MM400 600V Auto-Ranging Digital Multimeter on sale for $34.97. Shipping is free.

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Product Details:
  • Multimeter measures up to 600V AC/DC voltage, 10A DC current, 2 MOhms resistance, continuity, batteries, and diodes
  • Lead Alert protection with LED's for test lead placement
  • Easy-to-view backlit display for low light environments
  • Low battery indicator and easily accessible battery and fuse compartment
  • Durable meter built to withstand a 6.6-Foot (2 m) drop
  • Includes test leads, batteries and user manual
  • CAT III 600V safety rating
  • For use in basic and controlled electromagnetic environments such as residential, business and light-industrial locations

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    • This multimeter has received an average rating of 4.7 stars out of 5 based on over 3,200 Amazon customer reviews.
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Home Depot has Klein Tools MM400 600V Auto-Ranging Digital Multimeter on sale for $34.97. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member jkilez for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Multimeter measures up to 600V AC/DC voltage, 10A DC current, 2 MOhms resistance, continuity, batteries, and diodes
  • Lead Alert protection with LED's for test lead placement
  • Easy-to-view backlit display for low light environments
  • Low battery indicator and easily accessible battery and fuse compartment
  • Durable meter built to withstand a 6.6-Foot (2 m) drop
  • Includes test leads, batteries and user manual
  • CAT III 600V safety rating
  • For use in basic and controlled electromagnetic environments such as residential, business and light-industrial locations

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price matches a previous Frontpage Deal that received over +150 thumbs up from our community.
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.
  • About this product:
    • This multimeter has received an average rating of 4.7 stars out of 5 based on over 3,200 Amazon customer reviews.
  • About this store:
    • Amazon offers free returns for this item. You can return the item for any reason in new and unused condition: no shipping charges.
    • Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
    • If you're not a student, there's also a free 1-Month Amazon Prime trial available.
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kevinaaa
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Clamp meter cannot test low current in milliamps which is very common in computer electronics.
starfoxinstinct
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Googled it and TRMS seems to be useful for measuring modern AC current waveforms, so if you work with AC voltage you probably need that.

Edit: some smarter people corrected me downthread and basically you won't need this unless you really need accurate AC voltage readouts, which you don't most of the time.
Jedi2155
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To give you some ideas of where TrueRMS is necessary is when the AC output becomes non-sinusoidal.

In laymans terms, non-inverter and things that aren't "true sinewave" outputs. These include:

Generators without an inverter output
Battery generators that you're pushing beyond its rated power (the waveform tends to stop being sinusoidal after its max range)
Bad power quality / poor wiring situations
Output a battery based ac inverter that isn't a "true sine" such as the stuff that connects to your car battery, UPS, etc.

There are many situations where a TrueRMS output is useful for the everyday layman but many laymans and professionals don't know when those occur.

I have a background in power electronics, power quality, and was a utility engineer.

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Dec 25, 2022 10:55 PM
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ajbussstlDec 25, 2022 10:55 PM
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Quote from jkilez :
This (or the slightly cheaper MM300) is probably the cheapest "name brand" multimeter you will find. What you get over a $7 Harbor Freight meter is confidence in its accuracy. If all you need a meter for is to check hot-or-not, then the HF one is probably all you need.
^ this. I have the MM300 and couldn't have put it any better.

If you think you'll ever do any testing of wiring around the house in your car or otherwise troubleshooting anything you'll be happy you have this

I bought a carrying case from Amazon and the $3 set of alligator clips at HF and have been very pleased using this for nearly 3 years
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nick_isoprimeDec 25, 2022 11:18 PM
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Quote from starfoxinstinct :
Googled it and TRMS seems to be useful for measuring modern AC current waveforms, so if you work with AC voltage you probably need that.
Not really. Some use to a professional electrical engineer.
Not to home, hobby or even an electrician.
It's a solid basic meter that should last better than the noname units. I've had similar for decades in my grab bag. Save the fancy kit for when actually needed.
Dec 25, 2022 11:36 PM
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Quote from eeagle :
KAIWEETS Digital Multimeter TRMS 6000https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SHLS...ct_details clip the coupon for $20
Got this Kaiweets multimeter couple of weeks back. Its red/black leads fit very loosely in their ports and one is never sure that the reading is right or wrong. So asked for a Replacement thinking that I got a bad unit. Turns out the 2nd unit is even worse than the 1st one. So yeah, Kaiweet looks good specs/form wise, but has basic flaws.
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Quote from nick_isoprime :
Not really. Some use to a professional electrical engineer.
Not to home, hobby or even an electrician.
It's a solid basic meter that should last better than the noname units. I've had similar for decades in my grab bag. Save the fancy kit for when actually needed.
Exactly. TRMS is to ensure it measures all non-DC current accurately. If you're just measuring sinusoidal voltages within your home, a non-true-RMS will be just fine; which is probably the case for most of us. These meters can measure non-sinusoidal (square-wave, rectified, etc.) waveforms but with some inaccuracy (see attached, from Fluke's website).

In everyday household electrical use, the non-true-RMS meters will do just fine; and even then - most of us are just "checking" for the presence of voltage (where a pen-tester will suffice). I can't remember the last time I used my meter to measure household electrical parameters, but I did use it as an ohmmeter to trace down a noisy ground loop in my home theater system after purchasing a new receiver.
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Quote from starfoxinstinct :
Googled it and TRMS seems to be useful for measuring modern AC current waveforms, so if you work with AC voltage you probably need that.
I believe it will report pure sine wave AC correctly but not other waveforms. I have not Googled but probably should have. Wink
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kevinaaaDec 26, 2022 01:03 AM
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Quote from ajbussstl :
^ this. I have the MM300 and couldn't have put it any better.

If you think you'll ever do any testing of wiring around the house in your car or otherwise troubleshooting anything you'll be happy you have this

I bought a carrying case from Amazon and the $3 set of alligator clips at HF and have been very pleased using this for nearly 3 years
Well I think sometimes novices need better tools because they tolerate mistakes better and advanced users can use any tools.
Last edited by kevinaaa December 25, 2022 at 07:14 PM.
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Dec 26, 2022 01:07 AM
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icerocktiDec 26, 2022 01:07 AM
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Homedepot link shows MM325 not MM400.

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Dec 26, 2022 01:21 AM
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Spook52Dec 26, 2022 01:21 AM
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I've used many HP true rms meters in my career when precise measurements were needed.

Very rarely would happy homeowner or the expert DIY person need true rms.

Most of the time, I reach for my harbor freight cheapo multi meter that I got when they used to give them away for free.
Dec 26, 2022 01:22 AM
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GhozttDec 26, 2022 01:22 AM
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The Home Depot link is a different model that is manual ranging.
Dec 26, 2022 01:25 AM
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icerocktiDec 26, 2022 01:25 AM
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Quote from Ghoztt :
The Home Depot link is a different model that is manual ranging.
Right, MM400 on HD is 10 bucks more.
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Spook52Dec 26, 2022 01:25 AM
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Quote from Jchavezjr92 :
This good for checking basic voltage?
Yes. Very good for basic measurements.
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Jedi2155Dec 26, 2022 01:47 AM
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Quote from starfoxinstinct :
Googled it and TRMS seems to be useful for measuring modern AC current waveforms, so if you work with AC voltage you probably need that.

Edit: some smarter people corrected me downthread and basically you won't need this unless you really need accurate AC voltage readouts, which you don't most of the time.
To give you some ideas of where TrueRMS is necessary is when the AC output becomes non-sinusoidal.

In laymans terms, non-inverter and things that aren't "true sinewave" outputs. These include:
  • Generators without an inverter output
  • Battery generators that you're pushing beyond its rated power (the waveform tends to stop being sinusoidal after its max range)
  • Bad power quality / poor wiring situations
  • Output a battery based ac inverter that isn't a "true sine" such as the stuff that connects to your car battery, UPS, etc.
There are many situations where a TrueRMS output is useful for the everyday layman but many laymans and professionals don't know when those occur.

I have a background in power electronics, power quality, and was a utility engineer.
Dec 26, 2022 02:30 AM
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FantasticNoahDec 26, 2022 02:30 AM
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same on Walmart
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qningDec 26, 2022 02:39 AM
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Quote from ThriftyHalibut921 :
I got that a couple weeks ago, not bad for $19.32
Same! It's great. I just bought an accessory set. Clips, hooks, stuff like that.

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Quote from Jedi2155 :
To give you some ideas of where TrueRMS is necessary is when the AC output becomes non-sinusoidal.

In laymans terms, non-inverter and things that aren't "true sinewave" outputs. These include:
  • Generators without an inverter output
  • Battery generators that you're pushing beyond its rated power (the waveform tends to stop being sinusoidal after its max range)
  • Bad power quality / poor wiring situations
  • Output a battery based ac inverter that isn't a "true sine" such as the stuff that connects to your car battery, UPS, etc.
There are many situations where a TrueRMS output is useful for the everyday layman but many laymans and professionals don't know when those occur.

I have a background in power electronics, power quality, and was a utility engineer.
Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much. I'm an electrical contractor, there was once we built out a warehouse, and because of lack of neutrals, we got the harmonic, and we couldn't figure it out the first place, the harmonic changed the power out of phase, I did use my meter after installation but I didn't see anything wired, I guess if I had a trueRMS, I might find something. I'll get one for next time. But I think I'll go with the Fluke. Thank you.

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