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I've posted this before when the rate was lower, but Savebetter.com increased their no penalty Sallie Mae CD to 4.40%. I cancelled my old one and opened a new one.

Savebetter.com has a No penalty CD @ 4.40% APY. You can break this CD anytime after 30 days. With Fed Reserve increasing rates, CDs in the near future will pay better. So lock in 4.4% for now; if you find a better higher earning CD in the future, break it and lock in. There's no minimum and FDIC insured to $250,000. For the bond heads that prefer treasury bonds, the comparable 1 month fed treasury yield is 4.17%, so this yields higher and offers a guaranteed return for longer if you choose to keep it. I haven't found a better rate out there that doesn't lock in your money for a longer period.

For people that want a higher earning CD they also offer a regular 27 mo CD @ 5% APY.
https://www.savebetter.com/cd-acc...y-cd-rates

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01-04-2023 at 07:27 AM.
01-04-2023 at 07:27 AM.
series II bonds may be smarter depending on your situation

edit: turns out i am preaching to the choir
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01-04-2023 at 11:41 AM.
01-04-2023 at 11:41 AM.
Quote from acberry :
Treasury bills are a better deal and are state income tax free. They are paying 4.4-4.6% for 13-52 week terms.

Can u plz share more details
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01-04-2023 at 01:16 PM.
01-04-2023 at 01:16 PM.
Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
I feel it necessary to comment on all of these short-term CD deals that US treasuries pay better interest rates. 1 year treasuries are currently yielding ~4.7% and that income won't be subject to state or local tax like CDs are. Treasuries are also more liquid than CDs, allowing you to trade them on the secondary market and not pay early withdrawal penalties.

The only risk with treasuries is that since you can trade them on the secondary market, it's possible that their value can fall in the short term. Note that with a short duration treasury like one year, it would be hard to lose money on it if you held it for at least 2-3 months.

I don't think there is anyone who should choose a lower yielding CD with the same term as a higher yielding treasury. I can see the convenience of HYS luring people away from treasuries in exchange for lower returns, but I don't see why someone should pick this CD.
Can these 1-year treasuries be used for organizations like Home Owner Associations?
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01-04-2023 at 01:33 PM.
01-04-2023 at 01:33 PM.
Quote from gamingdroid :
Can these 1-year treasuries be used for organizations like Home Owner Associations?
Entities (e.g. governments, nonprofits, corporations) can and do buy treasuries. I can't tell you whether your specific organization can or should hold treasuries.
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01-04-2023 at 01:43 PM.
01-04-2023 at 01:43 PM.
FWIW my last SM stmt MM a/c shows last current 3.34% rate as of 12-23-22.
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01-04-2023 at 02:16 PM.
01-04-2023 at 02:16 PM.
If you have not done so, you can purchase iBond at treasurydirect.gov for up to $10K per person per year. The current yield is 6.89% during 11/1/2022-4/30/2022. The dividend is paid and taxed when you sell/cash in the bond (not at the end of every year). If you are due for tax refund on your 1040, you can purchase up to $5K additional iBond using your refund by checking a box on your 1040 return. If you want to overpay your 2022 tax in order to have $5K refund to buy additional iBond, you can still send in 2022 tax payment to IRS by 1/16/2023 at https://www.irs.gov/payments/direct-pay .
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01-04-2023 at 02:38 PM.
01-04-2023 at 02:38 PM.
Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
Entities (e.g. governments, nonprofits, corporations) can and do buy treasuries. I can't tell you whether your specific organization can or should hold treasuries.
Not as much of, should, but rather how?

Our HOA is non-profit, but we are not tax sheltered meaning we pay sales taxes and all of that jazz.

Quote from everestsun :
If you have not done so, you can purchase iBond at treasurydirect.gov for up to $10K per person per year. The current yield is 6.89% during 11/1/2022-4/30/2022. The dividend is paid and taxed when you sell/cash in the bond (not at the end of every year). If you are due for tax refund on your 1040, you can purchase up to $5K additional iBond using your refund by checking a box on your 1040 return. If you want to overpay your 2022 tax in order to have $5K refund to buy additional iBond, you can still send in 2022 tax payment to IRS by 1/16/2023 at https://www.irs.gov/payments/direct-pay .
You can also have someone else buy it for you as a gift, which will accrue interest now. However, you can only redeem the amount of your maximum per year, so you can't be gifted $20k for one year, you have to take $10k now (today's max) and then another $10k tomorrow.
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01-04-2023 at 02:45 PM.
01-04-2023 at 02:45 PM.
Quote from gamingdroid :
Not as much of, should, but rather how?

Our HOA is non-profit, but we are not tax sheltered meaning we pay sales taxes and all of that jazz.



You can also have someone else buy it for you as a gift, which will accrue interest now. However, you can only redeem the amount of your maximum per year, so you can't be gifted $20k for one year, you have to take $10k now (today's max) and then another $10k tomorrow.
The easiest way to buy treasuries is through a brokerage. I use Fidelity. They don't charge any commissions for treasury bonds.
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Can u plz share more details
The federal government borrows money by selling treasury bonds. These come in various durations from a few weeks to 30 years. These treasury bonds are very popular with a liquid secondary market where people buy and sell.

If you think about a CD, it's an agreement where you loan the bank your money and they promise to pay you back with interest. A treasury bond is the same thing. Right now, the treasury bonds will give you a better return on your money. On top of that, because you're lending to the federal government, they're willing to let your income from this be exempt from state and local taxes (but not federal taxes, which will likely be higher anyway).

Unlike a CD, treasury bonds are liquid. If you have a 12 month treasury bond and decide that you want to buy something else after 6 months, then you can sell it on the secondary market. Unless something really crazy has happened with interest rates during those 6 months, you will have a profit for your time holding that bond. With a CD, the only way to get out of the deal is to forfeit all of the interest you would otherwise be entitled to.

CDs typically pay more than treasuries, but not right now. You should avoid short-duration CDs and get short-duration treasury bonds if you need a safe place to park cash.
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01-04-2023 at 02:55 PM.
01-04-2023 at 02:55 PM.
Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
The federal government borrows money by selling treasury bonds. These come in various durations from a few weeks to 30 years. These treasury bonds are very popular with a liquid secondary market where people buy and sell.

If you think about a CD, it's an agreement where you loan the bank your money and they promise to pay you back with interest. A treasury bond is the same thing. Right now, the treasury bonds will give you a better return on your money. On top of that, because you're lending to the federal government, they're willing to let your income from this be exempt from state and local taxes (but not federal taxes, which will likely be higher anyway).

Unlike a CD, treasury bonds are liquid. If you have a 12 month treasury bond and decide that you want to buy something else after 6 months, then you can sell it on the secondary market. Unless something really crazy has happened with interest rates during those 6 months, you will have a profit for your time holding that bond. With a CD, the only way to get out of the deal is to forfeit all of the interest you would otherwise be entitled to.

CDs typically pay more than treasuries, but not right now. You should avoid short-duration CDs and get short-duration treasury bonds if you need a safe place to park cash.

Thanks.. makes sense. Watched few videos and that's definitely the better option
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01-04-2023 at 03:07 PM.
01-04-2023 at 03:07 PM.
Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
The easiest way to buy treasuries is through a brokerage. I use Fidelity. They don't charge any commissions for treasury bonds.
I have an account on Fidelity. How do you search for the Treasuries? Do they have a ticker like stocks?
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01-04-2023 at 03:22 PM.
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Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
The federal government borrows money by selling treasury bonds. These come in various durations from a few weeks to 30 years. These treasury bonds are very popular with a liquid secondary market where people buy and sell.

If you think about a CD, it's an agreement where you loan the bank your money and they promise to pay you back with interest. A treasury bond is the same thing. Right now, the treasury bonds will give you a better return on your money. On top of that, because you're lending to the federal government, they're willing to let your income from this be exempt from state and local taxes (but not federal taxes, which will likely be higher anyway).

Unlike a CD, treasury bonds are liquid. If you have a 12 month treasury bond and decide that you want to buy something else after 6 months, then you can sell it on the secondary market. Unless something really crazy has happened with interest rates during those 6 months, you will have a profit for your time holding that bond. With a CD, the only way to get out of the deal is to forfeit all of the interest you would otherwise be entitled to.

CDs typically pay more than treasuries, but not right now. You should avoid short-duration CDs and get short-duration treasury bonds if you need a safe place to park cash.
i think it's also important to talk about the max contribution of CD vs T bond
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01-04-2023 at 03:43 PM.
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Treasury bills are a better deal and are state income tax free. They are paying 4.4-4.6% for 13-52 week terms.

What's the site?
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01-04-2023 at 03:50 PM.
01-04-2023 at 03:50 PM.
Thank you for all the information!

The Sallie Mae rate may not be accurate today. When you click on it it says the rate is accurate as of the middle of November when rates were higher in general.

Hard to know if interest rates will go up even when the feds raise their rates. They raised it .50 in December and CDs/Treasuries have gone down almost that much since then. In the summer when they raised it .75, cd rates didn't budge. It's all beyond me but clearly savings rate do not always directly correlate to the fed rate.

Short term Treasury bonds are a good deal now but have also bought brokered CDs through brokerage houses like Fidelity which you can also sell on the secondary market and make or lose money the same way you can with the treasury bonds if you don't hold them till maturity.

The minimum for a brokered CD is $1,000 while the best the treasuries I see have a minimum of $5,000 and pay a slightly lower rate than if you buy a larger quantity.
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