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14 Month No Penalty CD @ 4.40% APY - Sallie Mae Bank by Savebetter

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I've posted this before when the rate was lower, but Savebetter.com increased their no penalty Sallie Mae CD to 4.40%. I cancelled my old one and opened a new one.

Savebetter.com has a No penalty CD @ 4.40% APY. You can break this CD anytime after 30 days. With Fed Reserve increasing rates, CDs in the near future will pay better. So lock in 4.4% for now; if you find a better higher earning CD in the future, break it and lock in. There's no minimum and FDIC insured to $250,000. For the bond heads that prefer treasury bonds, the comparable 1 month fed treasury yield is 4.17%, so this yields higher and offers a guaranteed return for longer if you choose to keep it. I haven't found a better rate out there that doesn't lock in your money for a longer period.

For people that want a higher earning CD they also offer a regular 27 mo CD @ 5% APY.
https://www.savebetter.com/cd-acc...y-cd-rates

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01-04-2023 at 03:56 PM.
01-04-2023 at 03:56 PM.
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The easiest way to buy treasuries is through a brokerage. I use Fidelity. They don't charge any commissions for treasury bonds.
Yeah, I head they also do auto-laddering. Thanks!
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01-04-2023 at 03:58 PM.
01-04-2023 at 03:58 PM.
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i think it's also important to talk about the max contribution of CD vs T bond
Not sure what you mean. There is no limit to the amount of treasury bonds you can buy. Some entities hold billions of dollars of treasuries.

There are limits for the purchase of Series-I bonds. These have been discussed a lot on Slickdeals and are very different from a standard treasury bond.
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01-04-2023 at 04:02 PM.
01-04-2023 at 04:02 PM.
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Treasury bills are a better deal and are state income tax free. They are paying 4.4-4.6% for 13-52 week terms.
Amazing there hasn't been a collapse yet especially with all the interest the gov't has to pay on their debt now...

Moving funds to a new Fidelity brokerage account from my savings so I can take advantage of the higher rates of Treasury bills...
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01-04-2023 at 04:07 PM.

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01-04-2023 at 04:07 PM.
Quote from polesnzeros :
I have an account on Fidelity. How do you search for the Treasuries? Do they have a ticker like stocks?
https://thefinancebuff.com/treasu...arket.html
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shinseiryuu
01-04-2023 at 05:01 PM.
01-04-2023 at 05:01 PM.
Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
I feel it necessary to comment on all of these short-term CD deals that US treasuries pay better interest rates. 1 year treasuries are currently yielding ~4.7% and that income won't be subject to state or local tax like CDs are. Treasuries are also more liquid than CDs, allowing you to trade them on the secondary market and not pay early withdrawal penalties.

The only risk with treasuries is that since you can trade them on the secondary market, it's possible that their value can fall in the short term. Note that with a short duration treasury like one year, it would be hard to lose money on it if you held it for at least 2-3 months.

I don't think there is anyone who should choose a lower yielding CD with the same term as a higher yielding treasury. I can see the convenience of HYS luring people away from treasuries in exchange for lower returns, but I don't see why someone should pick this CD.

Sorry for being a total newbie, but what does it mean to trade them on the secondary market? Does that mean buying and trading them through a broker like Fidelity? Also, in states with no income tax like Washington, isn't it worth the ease of using this rather than the crappy treasury direct website?

edit : I see some people have answered by buying them through Fidelity.

so there's really no penalty to trading treasuries before maturity through a broker ??
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01-04-2023 at 05:35 PM.
01-04-2023 at 05:35 PM.
Quote from shinseiryuu :
Sorry for being a total newbie, but what does it mean to trade them on the secondary market? Does that mean buying and trading them through a broker like Fidelity? Also, in states with no income tax like Washington, isn't it worth the ease of using this rather than the crappy treasury direct website?

edit : I see some people have answered by buying them through Fidelity.

so there's really no penalty to trading treasuries before maturity through a broker ??

When you trade through a broker there is no penalty because the borrower is not being repaid early. You have sold the bond to a third party who will redeem it as originally scheduled
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01-04-2023 at 07:02 PM.
01-04-2023 at 07:02 PM.
You can get 4.25% with Schwab MM funds. You don't get the tax benefits like tbills, but still a better deal than this one considering the flexibility. The yield/dividend on swvxx (Schwab MM funds) seem to raise fairly quickly after Fed raises rates and interest rates are expected to go north of 5% this year

Schwab has a better MM yield than Fidelity(less than 4%). Personally I find Schwab better than Fidelity, especially no fee mutual funds.
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01-04-2023 at 07:07 PM.
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Quote from scott.sd :
When you trade through a broker there is no penalty because the borrower is not being repaid early. You have sold the bond to a third party who will redeem it as originally scheduled
So after every Fed hike, need to trade the treasuries to get a better deal...not a big deal, considering the tax benefits especially in a high tax state
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01-04-2023 at 07:43 PM.
01-04-2023 at 07:43 PM.
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Here is the Fidelity link

https://fixedincome.fidelity.com/.../FILanding

Hey…. Moved jobs a few years ago and most of my funds from my 401k transferred but some went into this.

You all know anything about this fund/product? Doesn't seem to earn much at all.

https://fundresearch.fidelity.com.../31617H102
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01-04-2023 at 07:44 PM.
01-04-2023 at 07:44 PM.
Quote from shinseiryuu :
Sorry for being a total newbie, but what does it mean to trade them on the secondary market? Does that mean buying and trading them through a broker like Fidelity? Also, in states with no income tax like Washington, isn't it worth the ease of using this rather than the crappy treasury direct website?

edit : I see some people have answered by buying them through Fidelity.

so there's really no penalty to trading treasuries before maturity through a broker ??
There's no penalty for selling your treasury bond early. Keep in mind that depending on interest rates, the price for that bond on the secondary market will fluctuate, but with short (12 months or less) duration treasuries, this is a pretty small risk.

Imagine you buy a bond for $960 and you're told you'll get $1000 back in 12 months. That's an interest rate of ~4.2%. Now let's say that you decide you need the money after 3 months. If you sell the bond for $960, then the other guy would be getting that same $1000, but in only 9 months. That's an interest rate of ~5.6%. If the going rate is still 4.2%, then he will pay you about $970.

On a short duration treasury, it takes an enormous interest rate move or a very short holding period for it to be possible to lose money. Note that this last year saw short term treasury yields increase from <1% to 4.7%, so such a thing could be possible, but losing 1% if you sold bonds early in the worst year for bonds in decades would be far preferable than the ~20% loss that the S&P 500 took last year.
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01-04-2023 at 08:00 PM.
01-04-2023 at 08:00 PM.
Quote from acberry :
Treasury bills are a better deal and are state income tax free. They are paying 4.4-4.6% for 13-52 week terms.
Interesting fact The interest rate in the Republic of Kazakhstan is 16.75% Any one have connections with Borat. ..😉
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01-04-2023 at 08:54 PM.
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Quote from TurtlePerson2 :
There's no penalty for selling your treasury bond early. Keep in mind that depending on interest rates, the price for that bond on the secondary market will fluctuate, but with short (12 months or less) duration treasuries, this is a pretty small risk.

Imagine you buy a bond for $960 and you're told you'll get $1000 back in 12 months. That's an interest rate of ~4.2%. Now let's say that you decide you need the money after 3 months. If you sell the bond for $960, then the other guy would be getting that same $1000, but in only 9 months. That's an interest rate of ~5.6%. If the going rate is still 4.2%, then he will pay you about $970.

On a short duration treasury, it takes an enormous interest rate move or a very short holding period for it to be possible to lose money. Note that this last year saw short term treasury yields increase from <1% to 4.7%, so such a thing could be possible, but losing 1% if you sold bonds early in the worst year for bonds in decades would be far preferable than the ~20% loss that the S&P 500 took last year.
I think I'm seeing 986 for 3 months left. Is that a good deal? How much interest is that?
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Interesting fact The interest rate in the Republic of Kazakhstan is 16.75% Any one have connections with Borat. ..😉

https://youtu.be/GG86mhOGjB8
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01-04-2023 at 09:03 PM.
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good rates
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01-04-2023 at 09:17 PM.
01-04-2023 at 09:17 PM.
Quote from mark66 :
You can get 4.25% with Schwab MM funds. You don't get the tax benefits like tbills, but still a better deal than this one considering the flexibility. The yield/dividend on swvxx (Schwab MM funds) seem to raise fairly quickly after Fed raises rates and interest rates are expected to go north of 5% this year

Schwab has a better MM yield than Fidelity(less than 4%). Personally I find Schwab better than Fidelity, especially no fee mutual funds.
Can you please tell more about the Schwab money market fund. Is it FDIC and can you loose your capital? Thanks!
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