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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 09:24 AM
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kwyshteenaJan 13, 2023 09:24 AM
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For those that did delivery after Tesla removed manufacturing of parking sensors from the cars, does anyone know when the software upgrade will happen for Tesla Vision to replace the sensors?
Jan 13, 2023 09:25 AM
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hn2605Jan 13, 2023 09:25 AM
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Asking again to get more replies so I can confidently place the order.

Am I reading correct - If I buy an eligible EV now, can I use my 2022 income to qualify for 7500$ tax credit and no need to worry about 2023 income thresholds??? My 2023 income might not eligible.

As IRS website is saying "You can use your modified AGI from the year you take delivery of the vehicle or the year before, whichever is less. If your modified AGI is below the threshold in 1 of the two years, you can claim the credit."

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
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Jan 13, 2023 09:26 AM
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kijbJan 13, 2023 09:26 AM
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Quote from sdsnake :
Until you are out of battery and need to charge it. Look who's slow now? EEK!
Same thing as running out of gas lmaoo
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Jan 13, 2023 09:28 AM
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teslafan_netJan 13, 2023 09:28 AM
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Quote from TonyL6932 :
Lol. People buy it because agenda pushed by the government forced infrastructure to change, plus like someone said dealer markup on ICE makes EV junk sells faster. when ICE rise again with synthetic fuel and cancel culture falls upon EV again we will be the last ones smiling. Long live the ICE!
That's because our government doesn't want to rely on other countries for energy sources. If one day we go to war and they all stop sending oil to us, then this country will crash and burn. If there's better technology out there and you don't try to capture it, you'll get left behind. Man would still be living in caves today. China will leave us in the dust if we keep sitting still. One day they will be walking on Mars, driving electric cars, planes while you are here breathing fumes and waging wars with other countries for oil like we have already been doing. Have you asked yourself why we get involved in Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi, Russia, etc.? Was it for fame or oil control?
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Jan 13, 2023 09:28 AM
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SDSummerDayJan 13, 2023 09:28 AM
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Quote from lesterhung :
so where's the deal?
this is NORMAL price.
even MSRP can be good deal.
I challenge you to find a 300 mile range EV SUV that is cheaper, and let's not even talk about performance factors.

if you do any sort of shopping at all, you will find this is not a normal price in this day and age.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:29 AM
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Alucard400Jan 13, 2023 09:29 AM
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Quote from nkx1 :
I got the Prius Prime on a good sale in March of 2021 for like $21K or $22K out the door after federal tax rebate. As of a month or so ago, I could sell it (wholesale) for around $28K or so; not sure if that number has decreased slightly. Not bad to be able to drive a car for almost 2 years and make money if I wanted to. I doubt that would be the case with a Model Y.

It's a really boring car, and you're not going to get any style points when people see you roll up in a Prius (have to drive my Mercedes for those situations lol). But if you don't care about driving a Prius, it's great for the wallet. I haven't done the math, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 55 MPG of the Prime is (much) more economical than charging a Tesla. The prime also has about a 25-mile range if you charge it, but we don't bother.

All that said, the 2023 Prius is much better looking than the old one. I'm sure it's just as boring though lol.
Not at 197 hp, 0-60mph in 7.2 seconds and still sip at 57 miles per gallon. I don't think the owners will call that boring. I plan on picking one up in awd.
Jan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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Quote from dragontales :
Do I tell payroll at work just simply set aside $7500/24 paychecks for me?
Fill out a new W4 with your employer and put $7500 on line 3.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf

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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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Quote from teslafan_net :
That's because our government doesn't want to rely on other countries for energy sources. If one day we go to war and they all stop sending oil to us, then this country will crash and burn. If there's better technology out there and you don't try to use it, you'll get left behind. Man would still be living in caves today. China will leave us in the dust if we keep sitting still. One day they will be walking on Mars, driving electric cars, planes while you are here breathing fumes and waging wars with other countries for oil like we have already been doing. Have you asked yourself why we get involved in Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi, Russia, etc.? Was it for fame or oil control?
finally someone understands the bigger picture
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Jan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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dhruvin_333Jan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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Does the $7500 tax credit is for every state or it goes based on your location?

I am located in PA and is hoping get more insight on it!
Jan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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SDSummerDayJan 13, 2023 09:30 AM
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Quote from teslafan_net :
That's because our government doesn't want to rely on other countries for energy sources. If one day we go to war and they all stop sending oul to us, then this country will crash and burn. If there's better technology out there and you don't try to use it, you'll get left behind. Man would still be living in caves today. China will leave us in the dust if we keep sitting still. One day they will be walking on Mars, driving electric cars, planes while you are here breathing fumes and waging wars with other countries for oil like we have already been doing. Have you asked yourself why we get involved in Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi, Russia, etc.? Was it for fame or oil control?
have you check who is the biggest oil exporter in recent years?

FYI, US is number 3 on the list, iraq is 5, UAE is 6
Jan 13, 2023 09:31 AM
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nosugarpleaseJan 13, 2023 09:31 AM
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Please upvote this:

Definitions below:
Line 24: The total tax due is what you owe in taxes for the year

Line 25d: Income tax withheld is the total amount withheld from your income

Is the number on Line 25d larger than the number on Line 24? If so, that means you withheld too much.
Go to:
Line 34: This is your refund

Or is Line 24 larger? If so, you didn't withhold enough. Go to:
Line 37: This is the amount you owe
Jan 13, 2023 09:31 AM
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bubblez96Jan 13, 2023 09:31 AM
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am i reading this right? 2023 model 3 performance is 53.9k and qualifies for the 7500 rebate??????
Jan 13, 2023 09:32 AM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 09:32 AM
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Quote from hiralv :
If your state is still using natural gas or coal as souce of energy then buying electric vehicle is pointless.

https://i.redd.it/eoqot6w44rba1.jpg
Wrong. Coal, natural gas, etc. are all far more efficient than running an internal combustion engine in your individual car.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:32 AM
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RequiredJan 13, 2023 09:32 AM
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Quote from hn2605 :
Asking again to get more replies so I can confidently place the order.

Am I reading correct - If I buy an eligible EV now, can I use my 2022 income to qualify for 7500$ tax credit and no need to worry about 2023 income thresholds??? My 2023 income might not eligible.

As IRS website is saying "You can use your modified AGI from the year you take delivery of the vehicle or the year before, whichever is less. If your modified AGI is below the threshold in 1 of the two years, you can claim the credit."

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
No, you would use 2023 income to determine eligibility.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:33 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 09:33 AM
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Quote from seanleeforever :
have you check who is the biggest oil exporter in recent years?

FYI, US is number 3 on the list, iraq is 5, UAE is 6
we're still a net importer of oil my friend
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