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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 09:33 AM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 09:33 AM
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Quote from bubblez96 :
am i reading this right? 2023 model 3 performance is 53.9k and qualifies for the 7500 rebate??????
That is correct.
Jan 13, 2023 09:33 AM
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lolololololololJan 13, 2023 09:33 AM
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Quote from KeenD :
No, but the credit requirement will become much harder to meet.
For now it is only required the that car to be assembled in US.
From March, to get the full credit, the battery needs to be assembled in US, and the battery materials need to be partially sourced from North America, too. Otherwise, you get only half the credit, $3750.
It is said that no one can meet that battery requirement. (GM said it will take them at least 1 year to meet the requirement. No official words from Tesla yet.)
Does this mean if we don't take delivery of the model Y by March then we risk not getting the entire $7500 tax credit if the IRS decides that the model Y doesn't qualify?
Jan 13, 2023 09:34 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 09:34 AM
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Quote from bubblez96 :
am i reading this right? 2023 model 3 performance is 53.9k and qualifies for the 7500 rebate??????
crazy isn't it.. run out n buy a cheap super high performance car.. its actually currently the cheapest fast car/$ on the market
Jan 13, 2023 09:38 AM
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teslafan_netJan 13, 2023 09:38 AM
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Quote from TonyL6932 :
Prius because Hybird is perfect for all possible scenarios unlike EV 👌🏼
Until you realize that there are twice the chance of something breaking down (gas engine and electric) whereas gas or ev can only have 1 faulty system. Your maintenance cost will be higher in a hybrid. Power wise, it's also weaker since you get the weaker system of both worlds to fit in the same space. Hybrid will never be an efficient car since it's always carrying dead weight of the other system that's it's not being used.
the only reason it's more efficient than gas car alone is its weaker gas engine and the help of the battery. it will never be efficient as EV only
Last edited by teslafan_net January 13, 2023 at 02:44 AM.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:38 AM
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absolute42Jan 13, 2023 09:38 AM
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No hdmi?
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Jan 13, 2023 09:39 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 09:39 AM
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Quote from teslafan_net :
Until you realize that there are twice the chance of something breaking down (gas engine or electric) where as gas or ev can only have 1 faulty system. Your maintenance cost will be higher in a hybrid. Power wise it's also weaker since you get the weaker system of both worlds to fit in the same space. Hybrid will never be a performance car.
or the catalytic converter boys come for your prius
Jan 13, 2023 09:40 AM
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TonyL6932Jan 13, 2023 09:40 AM
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Quote from teslafan_net :
That's because our government doesn't want to rely on other countries for energy sources. If one day we go to war and they all stop sending oil to us, then this country will crash and burn. If there's better technology out there and you don't try to capture it, you'll get left behind. Man would still be living in caves today. China will leave us in the dust if we keep sitting still. One day they will be walking on Mars, driving electric cars, planes while you are here breathing fumes and waging wars with other countries for oil like we have already been doing. Have you asked yourself why we get involved in Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi, Russia, etc.? Was it for fame or oil control?
There is better technology. Synthetic fuel like I said. Right for now might be expensive but so as EV at the beginning, but no, YoU ArE TeSlAFaN I bet you are gonna find millions of BS data to BS with me and gonna keep on the speaker playing "EV is the future, get on with it"

Nope. I'd stay with what I already have. The only way to stop that future you talked about from happening is utilize what the majority already have and come up with a mutual solution, instead of pushing us to generate more waste for so call the future.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:40 AM
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Corporate ThugJan 13, 2023 09:40 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
crazy isn't it.. run out n buy a cheap super high performance car.. its actually currently the cheapest fast car/$ on the market
Problem is after taxes, even if you are making the top $150k max AGI to qualify for the tax rebate, it's still 33% of your AGI.
Jan 13, 2023 09:42 AM
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TonyL6932Jan 13, 2023 09:42 AM
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Quote from teslafan_net :
Until you realize that there are twice the chance of something breaking down (gas engine and electric) where as gas or ev can only have 1 faulty system. Your maintenance cost will be higher in a hybrid. Power wise it's also weaker since you get the weaker system of both worlds to fit in the same space. Hybrid will never be a performance car.
Interesting...you forget LaFerrari is actually a performance Hybird. Who said Hybird cannot be performance based?
Jan 13, 2023 09:42 AM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 09:42 AM
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Honestly people, do yourself a favor and pass on this. Despite what the fans will tell you these cars aren't all that. I just sold my second one (which I bought hoping it would be better than my first one that stranded me for 2 days on a road trip). All I can say is do your own research and try to talk to people who aren't crazed fans that are willing to overlook numerous quality and customer service issues. EVs are great, but Tesla doesn't quite have the whole being a car company thing down yet.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:44 AM
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HonestManatee4125Jan 13, 2023 09:44 AM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
Honestly people, do yourself a favor and pass on this. Despite what the fans will tell you these cars aren't all that. I just sold my second one (which I bought hoping it would be better than my first one that stranded me for 2 days on a road trip). All I can say is do your own research and try to talk to people who aren't crazed fans that are willing to overlook numerous quality and customer service issues. EVs are great, but Tesla doesn't quite have the whole being a car company thing down yet.
Elon thanks you for beta testing 🤣
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Jan 13, 2023 09:45 AM
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JamaalJohnsonJan 13, 2023 09:45 AM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
Wrong. Coal, natural gas, etc. are all far more efficient than running an internal combustion engine in your individual car.
When all environmental costs are considered, it depends on the battery capacity and how many miles you will put on the car.
A hybrid comes out the best in pretty much all cases. ICE vs EV can vary on environmental impact below 180,000 miles.
Jan 13, 2023 09:45 AM
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ElatedHill7496Jan 13, 2023 09:45 AM
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In China, Tesla's price has been dropped to Model Y $38,800, model 3 $34,500. Because BYD produces/sells more, cheaper and much safer advanced batteries. BTW, BYD will sell in the US soon. Model Han under $30,000. Model dolphin could be under $20000 or less. Imagine how much Tesla will be at that time?
Last edited by ElatedHill7496 January 13, 2023 at 03:21 AM.
Jan 13, 2023 09:46 AM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 09:46 AM
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Quote from HonestManatee4125 :
Elon thanks you for beta testing 🤣
Exactly.

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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 09:47 AM
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Quote from ElatedHill7496 :
In China, Tesla's price has been dropped to Model Y $38,800, model 3 $34,500. Because BYD produces more, cheaper and much safer advanced batteries. BTW, BYD will sell in the US soon. Model Han under $30,000. Model dolphin could be under $20000 or less. Imagine how much Tesla will be at that time? PC with 2 sofa n 4 wheels.
nobody is rushing out to buy chinese brand cars. if tainted milk powder, food, and paint doesnt ring a bell, buying one will
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