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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 03:12 PM
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ThriftyBook977Jan 13, 2023 03:12 PM
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Quote from patrix :
Claim huge losses this year to get your AGI below the income threshold.

example: Buy TSLA stocks right now.
You obviously do not do your own tax.
Jan 13, 2023 03:13 PM
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charltonhJan 13, 2023 03:13 PM
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Elon needs money for Twitter losses
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Jan 13, 2023 03:13 PM
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RockyP9101Jan 13, 2023 03:13 PM
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No thanks, Camry is $26k
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Jan 13, 2023 03:14 PM
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wills916Jan 13, 2023 03:14 PM
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More evidence Tesla's don't have the same appeal anymore, and its leadership's capricious approach to vehicle pricing is also bad for resale value. Anyone who bought one prior to now is going to feel it when they sell.
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Jan 13, 2023 03:14 PM
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DC13Jan 13, 2023 03:14 PM
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This is going to drop way more. Under 50k soon. No one wants this car or to be associated with this brand. Think about that before putting your loved ones in their poorly built vehicles that are worth maybe 15k plus a 20k battery.
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Jan 13, 2023 03:14 PM
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sarpertasJan 13, 2023 03:14 PM
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Quote from cyber16 :
It was expected to see these price reductions to qualify for the full rebate and to spur slumping sales. Musk damaged himself on social media which in turn turned off some buyers.

Keep in mind that rebate also extends to used EV vehicles at a lesser $ amount.

I'm also in the market not sure if it will be this year or not depending on what other offerings materialize over the next few months.
Can you explain little more for used evs? Dont want to spent that much on a brand new one but will consider used if we can get some tax credit
Jan 13, 2023 03:15 PM
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runner0382Jan 13, 2023 03:15 PM
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Quote from tqlla3k :
Yikes. If you are in California, use the Supercharger miles during peak hours ($0.57 per KWH at 3.5 miles per KWH. That will make your supercharger miles worth $1628.

Also, for CA people who cant charge at home, an EV seems like a trap to me. $0.57 per [email protected] miles per= $4.07 for 25 miles of range. There are plenty of cars that can get that.

If too many people wait till just after peak hours to charge, then those hours will become peak hours too.
I live in CA and this is why I don't have one, living in the highest energy cost city in the U.S. We don't have solar so I can't do a time of use plan that would help offset costs. I've done the math and it doesn't make sense. We bought a hybrid SUV in August and will let the infrastructure and cost come down for the next purchase or just buy used at a much better value.

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Jan 13, 2023 03:16 PM
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eugefJan 13, 2023 03:16 PM
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in for 2. Thanks
Jan 13, 2023 03:16 PM
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TenseSparrow2873Jan 13, 2023 03:16 PM
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When it says 7,500 tax credit, do you actually get that money year end? Or that just means it goes towards your tax liability?
Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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ScarletTerrier7992Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Nice front,side ,rear camera for you tube & try to monenitized to pay the monthly bill, I'm in for 2 then i'm gonna give 1 to my ex wife but let her pay the bill for two..revenge😁
Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Andrew1116Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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The new my pillow
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Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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FairMeal6947Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Quote from lancerjin :
You need to have a tax liabilities of $7,500 or more to claim the full $7,500 benefit. The payroll withholding is just how much you "pre-paid" your tax liabilities based on your estimate.

If your estimated tax liabilities for 2023 is $3,000 and your payroll withholding is $10,000, you will get "your" $10,000 payroll withholding plus $3,000 from $7,500 EV rebate.
This is the correct answer. I remember buying solar and worrying whether i get the tax credit due to having many child credits afrom my 3 kids. But i was able to get the full solar credit.
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wightyJan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Quote from linhnd2000 :
One can choose $0 witholding. Talk to your payroll. Or read that form you file right before starting a new job. Sorry dont remember ưhat the form's name.
Yeah I wasn't sure if that was allowed or not, it is usually the W4 I think for determining your withholding.
Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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runner0382Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Quote from RockyP9101 :
No thanks, Camry is $26k
Which costs you $26,667 in fuel over 200k miles assuming gas at $4/gallon and 30 miles per gallon. Gas in CA is higher than that. Worth considering and I am not pro electric car for our household right now.
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Jan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Rockey_bostonJan 13, 2023 03:17 PM
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Quote from jdang7891 :
If you owe $10,000 tax then with $7,500 credit, you now owe the fed $2,500.
What if I don't owe anything in tax? If I get the refund what is the status?

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