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expiredMurraytheDemonSkull posted Jan 13, 2023 04:18 AM

2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 04:17 PM
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subx0vaJan 13, 2023 04:17 PM
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Quote from Mydiscover :
Not Tesla they won't. LMAOLMAO
Yeah agreed, learning the hard way.
Jan 13, 2023 04:17 PM
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MellowPocket6047Jan 13, 2023 04:17 PM
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Anyone has any luck with connecting with Tesla advisors since morning? Seems like waiting for ever .. not sure how they are handling 30day price guarantees?
Jan 13, 2023 04:17 PM
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KensicJan 13, 2023 04:17 PM
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Quote from livelifeup22 :
That is correct. You will need to adjust your W4 to pay less enough that you will owe at least 7500 next year…and then offset that with this credit.
Your statement is wrong , doesn't matter if you with held 10k through out the year.

Your income will determine how much you owe in federal tax. You will get your withheld money back. Becuase the credit will hit first.

If you owe 11k in tax. 7500 credit will hit first. And you will get back 6500 back from your "prepay" tax from your paycheck
Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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People… the tax credit is up to $7500 applied against ALL the tax you had to pay for the year. It doesn't matter if you "owe" the IRS at the end of the year or are already getting a refund. What happens at the end of the year is based on how much tax your employer withheld from your pay all year. What matters is how much tax you actually ended up paying to the IRS.

Example:
You pay $30,000 in taxes throughout the year via payroll
You do your taxes at the end of the year and you really only had $20,000 in tax liability for the year, so you are already getting a $10,000 refund.
Since you still had $20,000 in tax liability you can apply the entire $7500 EV credit.
Now you are getting a $17,500 refund.
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Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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fresh82Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Batter component is irrelevant for Q1 because they aren't issuing guidance until April and they already said everything qualifies until then.





What you prepaid is irrelevant to qualifying. See my previous posts explaining and citing what lines on your 1040 you need to look at.
i see. so i guess u better take what's in their inventory now rather than configuring an order and risk having the car delivered after march 31st
Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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SkyKing02Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
you don't get anything back that you didn't owe.. its not free money out of the air
you don't get back but you don't pay $2500 to the IRS as an example. Is that correct?
Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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MydiscoverJan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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Quote from MellowPocket6047 :
Anyone has any luck with connecting with Tesla advisors since morning? Seems like waiting for ever .. not sure how they are handling 30day price guarantees?
There is none save your breath and time.

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Jan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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youngbillyJan 13, 2023 04:18 PM
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Tesla price including intelligence tax: for the ones who has money, don't have intelligence.
Jan 13, 2023 04:19 PM
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BoomskieJan 13, 2023 04:19 PM
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mixed tax credit with tax refund - disregard
Last edited by Boomskie January 13, 2023 at 09:23 AM.
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YCGJan 13, 2023 04:19 PM
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Quote from slkmaster2000 :
I feel like Tesla needs to educate the public on how to actually qualify for this credit they're advertising on their site. I feel my taxes are fairly straightforward and even then, having a tough time figuring out if I qualify.
I would pull up Form 8936 and plug in various numbers to see how it works.
Jan 13, 2023 04:19 PM
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RockyBazingaJan 13, 2023 04:19 PM
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It would be nice of Tesla gives away advanced Autopilot feature as a compensation for the loss for recent buyers... Or some coupon of some sort for discounts on self driving upgrades...
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 04:19 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Batter component is irrelevant for Q1 because they aren't issuing guidance until April and they already said everything qualifies until then.





What you prepaid is irrelevant to qualifying. See my previous posts explaining and citing what lines on your 1040 you need to look at.
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Quote from InexpensiveRock :
Model 3 driver here for 3 years, get one if you can, you will love it.

Man current rates in TX vary by charger of course, but are between $0.28/kw to $0.34/kw. Some chargers have peak or off-peak rates that are higher/lower than that.
The calculation I was responding to was a model y in California.

a Model 3 gets 4 miles per KWH. It takes 12.5Kwh to get 50 miles.

A Tesla Model 3 costs $4.25 to go 50 miles at 0.34 cents per Kwh.
A Tesla Model 3 costs $2.81 to go 33 miles at 0.34 cents per Kwh.
A Camry hybrid gets 50MPG. It costs $3/gal in dallas.
A 4cyl Camry gets 33MPG. It costs $3/gal in dallas.

IMO, if you cant charge at home... dont buy an EV.
Jan 13, 2023 04:20 PM
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TheSource777Jan 13, 2023 04:20 PM
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Quote from Abhi88 :
Cheaper electric cars will be around 20-25k in next 2 years, dont worry right now. Hybrid is the way to go if buying now and keep for next 3-4 years so that the car become reliable with faster charging speeds + better charging infrastructure. Really dont know how will these car survive any flooding like cali and florida. Even areas like houston
Hybrids are literally the worst of both worlds because you pay for a mediocre version of two drivetrains. You don't get the safety benefits of an electric car (low center of gravity with large battery pack, front crumple zone, still gotta pay for gas maintenance).
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 04:20 PM
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Quote from SkyKing02 :
you don't get back but you don't pay $2500 to the IRS as an example. Is that correct?
if you owe irs $2500.. then max u can credit is $2500 assuming u dont go above the agi requirement

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