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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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PgaJan 15, 2023 06:01 PM
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Quote from anhdongtx :
They are still recalling them as they can't resolve them after so long

But that's not my point. My point is all car manufacturers have some issues. Just because Tesla has leatherette and gap issues, you can't discount them.
The first recorded BMW issue on this topic was 2019....so 6 to 13 years after the car were made. It takes few years for instances to rack up to imply an issue, well outside any OEM warranty. Recall came in spring of 2022.

On the other had Tesla's faux pleather fails WELL INSIDE the warranty period and they are denying any replacement saying it's owners fault.

I had couple cosmetic issues on the steering wheel of my BMW after year 2. BMW replaces the steering wheel under warranty, no questions asked.
Last edited by Pga January 15, 2023 at 11:04 AM.
Jan 15, 2023 06:04 PM
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pavanpkJan 15, 2023 06:04 PM
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I see the starting price is at $55,700. Is the deal gone or did i miss something?
Jan 15, 2023 06:05 PM
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OC_One_ToneJan 15, 2023 06:05 PM
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Quote from Johnny22 :
Does this mean I can not add 20" induction wheels on model Y, which will exceed the $55000 limit?
Just found out and I will answer my own question, yes, I can still add the 20-inch wheel, and the total of the vehicle will be $54490, destination fee and order fee do not apply.
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anhdongtxJan 15, 2023 06:08 PM
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Quote from Pga :
The first recorded BMW issue on this topic was 2019....so 6 to 13 years after the car were made. It takes few years for instances to rack up to imply an issue, well outside any OEM warranty. Recall came in spring of 2022.

On the other had Tesla's faux pleather fails WELL INSIDE the warranty period and they are denying any replacement saying it's owners fault.

I had couple cosmetic issues on the steering wheel of my BMW after year 2. BMW replaces the steering wheel under warranty, no questions asked.
I am sure BMW is a good car

But my brother had an X5 and it had all kind of issues and the repair and maintenance cost is legendary

As far as customer service, I agreed they are better
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rubiks
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Jan 15, 2023 06:09 PM
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Quote from MeCheap :
Picking up model Y today from Tesla, any tips here?
please report back if it equips with *new* sensors (more like putting back the radars)
Jan 15, 2023 06:12 PM
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suprenJan 15, 2023 06:12 PM
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Quote from pavanpk :
I see the starting price is at $55,700. Is the deal gone or did i miss something?
You can place a new order for 53k.
All the existing inventory less than 55k are gone.
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bradmurrayJan 15, 2023 06:12 PM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
blah blah haters going hate. There's zero reason to buy any other car at this price range other than tesla. Find a better car at 45k than model y, we'll wait.
vw id4

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Jan 15, 2023 06:22 PM
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OnlybuydiscountedJan 15, 2023 06:22 PM
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Prices will drop even more. Just watch and see.
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beta.Jan 15, 2023 06:22 PM
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Quote from rubiks :
please report back if it equips with *new* sensors (more like putting back the radars)
I am curious, too. I wonder if waiting to put in an order in February might be a good idea?

How quickly does Tesla push out their manufacturing/inventory? Are these things kind of like "made to order"? Or do they already have some inventory sitting and just processing orders and delivering?
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anhdongtxJan 15, 2023 06:26 PM
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Quote from bradmurray :
vw id4
It's not better and you can't get one without waiting anyway
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suprenJan 15, 2023 06:28 PM
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Quote from beta. :
I am curious, too. I wonder if waiting to put in an order in February might be a good idea?

How quickly does Tesla push out their manufacturing/inventory? Are these things kind of like "made to order"? Or do they already have some inventory sitting and just processing orders and delivering?
I custom ordered blue with white interior on the day the deal posted and my estimated delivery is jan 22 - feb 9th.
Jan 15, 2023 06:29 PM
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NeatOstrich900Jan 15, 2023 06:29 PM
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Quote from beta. :
I am curious, too. I wonder if waiting to put in an order in February might be a good idea?

How quickly does Tesla push out their manufacturing/inventory? Are these things kind of like "made to order"? Or do they already have some inventory sitting and just processing orders and delivering?
Knowing Tesla, they already have the sensor installed and waiting on FCC to finish the paperwork so the sensor can be enabled.

It's a mm wave radar, so it should penetrate the bumper plastic. I'd wager it's already in the bumper.
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vrcsuJan 15, 2023 06:31 PM
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Quote from anhdongtx :
It's not better and you can't get one without waiting anyway
and they have recently increased price too

and they are taking online orders any more (ie you cannot buy at MSRP price)

and they want us to buy EVs from their dealer at dealer's price. (ie almost 10k over MSRP)

and they have huge software issues

and they have charging network issues

and....list goes on
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Jan 15, 2023 06:34 PM
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beta.Jan 15, 2023 06:34 PM
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Quote from supren :
I custom ordered blue with white interior on the day the deal posted and my estimated delivery is jan 22 - feb 9th.
Quote from NeatOstrich900 :
Knowing Tesla, they already have the sensor installed and waiting on FCC to finish the paperwork so the sensor can be enabled.

It's a mm wave radar, so it should penetrate the bumper plastic. I'd wager it's already in the bumper.
awesome. I think i'll wait another week to put the order in. I think the tax credit only applies when you receive the vehicle delivery by March?

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AkumaX
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Quote from kobe4mvp :
It said Tesla doesn't qualify.
https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...s-change-0

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