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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 16, 2023 07:28 AM
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trandtJan 16, 2023 07:28 AM
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$7500 Tax Credit Question

Anyone with answers would love some help in understanding this.

Since it is a $7500 Non Refundable tax credit, I am worried I won't get the full credit. Unless I am misunderstanding it.

Lets say I make $100K.
Usually every year when I do my taxes I get back about $2-$3K.

How would I maximize the $7500 non refundable tax credit if I get some money back usually on my taxes.

Am I thinking about it incorrectly or do I need to up my allowances and give less taxes to the goverment per paycheck?
Last edited by trandt January 16, 2023 at 12:31 AM.
Jan 16, 2023 07:31 AM
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vndragonslayerJan 16, 2023 07:31 AM
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Quote from trandt :
$7500 Tax Credit Question

Anyone with answers would love some help in understanding this.

Since it is a $7500 Non Refundable tax credit, I am worried I won't get the full credit. Unless I am misunderstanding it.

Lets say I make $100K.
Usually every year when I do my taxes I get back about $2-$3K.

How would I maximize the $7500 non refundable tax credit since if I get some money back usually on my taxes.

Am I thinking about it incorrectly or do I need to up my allowances and give less taxes to the goverment per paycheck?
what does line 24 say on your 1040... if its higher than 7500.. you're gona maximized it.. and ffs.. read the pages.. stop being lazy or search bar
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Jan 16, 2023 07:34 AM
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cloudiettJan 16, 2023 07:34 AM
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Quote from trandt :
$7500 Tax Credit Question

Anyone with answers would love some help in understanding this.

Since it is a $7500 Non Refundable tax credit, I am worried I won't get the full credit. Unless I am misunderstanding it.

Lets say I make $100K.
Usually every year when I do my taxes I get back about $2-$3K.

How would I maximize the $7500 non refundable tax credit if I get some money back usually on my taxes.

Am I thinking about it incorrectly or do I need to up my allowances and give less taxes to the goverment per paycheck?
Ask your tax preparer. If you make $100k as single, $7500 is guaranteed.
Jan 16, 2023 07:40 AM
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trandtJan 16, 2023 07:40 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
what does line 24 say on your 1040... if its higher than 7500.. you're gona maximized it.. and ffs.. read the pages.. stop being lazy or search bar

Appreciate the tip and insult in the same answer lol. I been was just confused hence the question. But thanks!
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EliteDealHunterJan 16, 2023 07:42 AM
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Quote from trandt :
$7500 Tax Credit Question

Anyone with answers would love some help in understanding this.

Since it is a $7500 Non Refundable tax credit, I am worried I won't get the full credit. Unless I am misunderstanding it.

Lets say I make $100K.
Usually every year when I do my taxes I get back about $2-$3K.

How would I maximize the $7500 non refundable tax credit if I get some money back usually on my taxes.

Am I thinking about it incorrectly or do I need to up my allowances and give less taxes to the goverment per paycheck?
It doesn't matter how much your employer takes out or doesn't take out throughout the year. All that matters is how much you're supposed to pay in taxes for the entire year. If it's over $7500 you'll get the full credit.
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trandtJan 16, 2023 07:47 AM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
It doesn't matter how much your employer takes out or doesn't take out throughout the year. All that matters is how much you're supposed to pay in taxes for the entire year. If it's over $7500 you'll get the full credit.
Thank you. Was confusing myself and thinking of it in the wrong way. Appreciate the clarification.
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kenshiJan 16, 2023 08:14 AM
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Quote from mitzecho :
Anyone got a VIN assigned? I booked yesterday no VIN assigned yet? I hope I don't miss my fed credit
I picked up mine today. Ordered Friday morning, got vin in the afternoon.
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Quote from NeoSlick :
I like Tesla's; but you can get TWO updated 2023 Toyota Corolla's *or* two 2023 Honda Civics for the same price. And no amount of Tesla 0-60 or no-gas savings beat a pair of aces. Yes two whole cars for your family to drive.

https://www.consumerreports.org/b...288866980/

If a good new Tesla was only a few thousand more ($29K?) then price (with fuel saving) would be equal to one of the pair. And I would jump all over it.

And I think Tesla has overcome a lot of unfair anti-competitive resistance; making them cost to much.
Not a valid nor a fair comparison.
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tonkotsuJan 16, 2023 08:50 AM
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Quote from NeoSlick :
I like Tesla's; but you can get TWO updated 2023 Toyota Corolla's *or* two 2023 Honda Civics for the same price. And no amount of Tesla 0-60 or no-gas savings beat a pair of aces. Yes two whole cars for your family to drive.

https://www.consumerreports.org/b...288866980/

If a good new Tesla was only a few thousand more ($29K?) then price (with fuel saving) would be equal to one of the pair. And I would jump all over it.

And I think Tesla has overcome a lot of unfair anti-competitive resistance; making them cost to much.
If you're comparing it to the model, 3, you'd have to get the highest trim corolla or civic in hybrid form to compete

for the corolla its the hybrid XLE, which cost $26,600, but currently all dealers are adding nonsense $3-5k of random accessories,

similar story for honda, I don't even see a hybrid option on the website but the touring is $30,000+$3-5k in add ons/markup

if you're in a busy metro area or larger suburb, they won't knock too much off the price, especially for hybrids or suvs

none of these cars are going for msrp in larger cities

tesla effectively made the model 3 $37k after rebate

it's still pricier than either option but not the silly "you can buy two!" nonsense you're spouting, just fyi
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AnsonL6358Jan 16, 2023 08:54 AM
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Quote from AustinM8565 :
I just want to know how many people don't realize that unless you have over a 7500 dollar federal tax burden you won't be receiving this entire credit.

This post is misleading people to think it's simply a rebate. You aren't guaranteed to the entire amount and that should be said on the top post.
True but it's quite easy to have $7500 of tax liability.
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the_pharmacistJan 16, 2023 08:57 AM
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Quote from oppayah :
Let me say it in a way that can help you understand. The built quality passed for someone who once leased 6 BMWs in a row. I actually like Tesla seats much better. I feel less tired after a long distance drive. But what's most important to me is the performance and safety. My Tesla can pretty much do a circle around most BMWs. That instant torque from Tesla is so much better than BMW engine that has to rev for a couple seconds before it responds. Also Tesla's premium audio is so much better than the premium Harmon Kardon audio system that was in my 2019 BMW X3 Executive Package. Let's not even talk talk about the infotainment system. Tesla's bigger screen is so much better and responsive than BMW screen. Yeah...I don't miss my BMW. Maybe the service department because they gave good snacks and drinks.
Alright, well as someone that has had BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus vehicles throughout my life, let me break it down for you. I am not anti-Tesla – as a matter of fact, I just became a Tesla shareholder (again) this week, so am hoping the company does well long-term and the stock price goes back to where it was when I sold. That being said, if you think that their quality of build is pristine, then I would like what you're smoking. It certainly wasn't the worst build I've seen, but it was similar to this individual's experience (https://imgur.com/gallery/hnanCZa) rather than what you're sharing – different Tesla model, similar experience. I honestly believe that as more car companies begin to roll out EV's, Tesla will be forced to ramp up quality which is something I'm looking forward to. They're just not there yet.
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NeoSlickJan 16, 2023 09:00 AM
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Quote from tonkotsu :
If you're comparing it to the model, 3, you'd have to get the highest trim corolla or civic in hybrid form to compete

for the corolla its the hybrid XLE, which cost $26,600, but currently all dealers are adding nonsense $3-5k of random accessories,

similar story for honda, I don't even see a hybrid option on the website but the touring is $30,000+$3-5k in add ons/markup

if you're in a busy metro area or larger suburb, they won't knock too much off the price, especially for hybrids or suvs

none of these cars are going for msrp in larger cities

tesla effectively made the model 3 $37k after rebate

it's still pricier than either option but not the silly "you can buy two!" nonsense you're spouting, just fyi
All your facts are sound; but you're just wrong. Two Hondas are still better than one Y. Even with their cons and worse mileage. See?

So perfectly demonstrating the real problem.
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NeoSlickJan 16, 2023 09:03 AM
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Quote from MurraytheDemonSkull :
Not a valid nor a fair comparison.
It does not have to be fair for two new ICE Hondas to beat one Y at the same price. Valid. Common sense.

I think Tesla has the best vehicles. I know; Except for price.
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ImBr0keJan 16, 2023 09:03 AM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
read the detail for cvrp.. i assumed you just glanced quickly.. go back and read it carefully..
post feb 28.. if u can qualify.. max rebate is 7500 instead of current 4500

9k is from junking to buy an ev.. i had a pos ice that isnt worth anything
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/defa...al_MAP.pdf
I submitted my application for the junking of my old car and have been waiting 10 months now. No answer yet but from what I read we can only buy from certain car dealers. I am in San Joaquin valley area.

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