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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 16, 2023 09:10 PM
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NotAbot987Jan 16, 2023 09:10 PM
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Quote from sfkeepay :
Reluctant to throw kindling on this, but Musk has captured a very popular piece of a forum that has become functionally integrated into the public square. He's actively silencing those who criticize him on Twitter, further announcing his autocratic and dictatorial predilections to everyone who hadn't been so informed by his Covid-era behavior towards his Tesla employees. This goes far beyond "mere" political donations and base-covering.

Probably to the good, though, as it illustrates the risk we all run by tolerating the private ownership of public necessities. It doesn't matter what your political inclinations may be if your freedom to participate in politics is arbitrarily denied. We should all come to one another's defense to prevent that from happening.
I agree, it boggles my mind that my kids' schools use Facebook or Twitter for communication and make students watch Youtube with advertisements. Still, taking it on single individual who is really not the cause of the problem is moving in the wrong direction, even worse it's counterproductive. TL;DR singling out Musk is not going to fix the issue(s).
Jan 16, 2023 09:11 PM
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thinh4u2Jan 16, 2023 09:11 PM
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Quote from conquistadorst :
I have the same question, but I don't think anyone knows the answer yet at this point. The IRS has the best idea, but they aren't sharing. The reason for the ambiguous March timeframe is because the IRS themselves have announced guidance that created this TEMPORARY loophole. They said they will revisit the 2023 tax guidance on EV rebates sometime in March. They didn't even announce a day in March either. After that who knows, it might go poof altogether. I would expect it to NOT stay at $7,500. Do yourself a favor and assume it won't be there after that timeframe to save yourself hurt and bitterness. We probably won't get any warning, it'll just pop up one day in March.

If anyone has any more accurate up-to-date information please share!
The IRS has no updated guidelines b/c the govt has not sit down to write the restrictions. Towards the end of 2022, they stated that they're planning to write this up in March 2023. There is NO set date for the meetings so far.

Even if they met in March, it is unclear how long it would take for them to finalize the actual restrictions and when the changes would reflect the updated guidance.

It is presumed by Tesla that they will only be eligible for HALF the 7500 since the battery components itself do not meet the criteria (not made in the US), but it is just a guess.
Jan 16, 2023 09:11 PM
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KSilver2000Jan 16, 2023 09:11 PM
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Quote from eggsalad :
people that can afford a $50K car need $7,500 taken from other tax payers?

All i can afford was a used buick. Where is my tax credit.

Why am I punished.
In California, starting next month, anyone under 400% of the federal poverty level ($130K for a family of 4) will also qualify for an increased rebate on new EV purchases: $7,500. So, total of $15,000.
That means more than half of the entire CA qualifies for $15,000 off a new EV. A new Chevy Bolt would cost just $15K.

Heck, if all of those folks are getting free money, I'm taking advantage of all my tax reductions in every way possible, too. CA is expensive because you have to pay for all the government subsidies being handed out.
Jan 16, 2023 09:14 PM
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RoyGeeBivJan 16, 2023 09:14 PM
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Quote from conquistadorst :
There are EV tax rebates on used cars now. You can pick up a used Nissan or Chevy EV pretty cheap these days. They may still be more expensive than a used Buick (you didn't share details) but so are all EVs compared to their ICE counterparts.

The overall point of these tax-payer-funded subsidies is to turn the driving environment greener, not to make the world fairer, unfortunately. There are other government programs doing a somewhat better job targeting that.
Elon said it best, in response to Robert Murray (Coal magnate) complaining about EV subsidies: Twitter Oct 2016: "Real fraud going on is denial of climate science. As for "subsidies", Tesla gets pennies on dollar vs coal. How about we both go to zero?" Needless to say, Murray never responded.
Last edited by RoyGeeBiv January 16, 2023 at 02:17 PM.
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Jan 16, 2023 09:15 PM
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bilalhashmiJan 16, 2023 09:15 PM
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Fyi… Please add charger if you ordering Model Y or 3. TESLA is not including mobile charger anymore with the car.
Jan 16, 2023 09:15 PM
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whocares1Jan 16, 2023 09:15 PM
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How much is insurance cost for model y per month?
Jan 16, 2023 09:17 PM
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BrightHalibut7933Jan 16, 2023 09:17 PM
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Quote from oghowie :
Sucks for anyone that bought in 2022, but Tesla just put pressure on everyone to lower new and used car prices.
It's the AMZ effect on inflation. So far dealers in my area aren't budging but we shall see. I have 2 months to cross shop. Looking for a PHEV or EV that seats 6 around $51k like my Y

Description Total in USD
Model Y Long Range Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive $52,990
Pearl White Paint Included
19'' Gemini Wheels Included
All Black Premium Interior Included
Seven Seat Interior $4,000
Autopilot Included
Subtotal $56,990
Destination Fee $1,390
Order Fee $250
Total $58,630- $7.5K.

Jealous of those who have state incentives. We got rid of all here in AZ Frown

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Jan 16, 2023 09:18 PM
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turns2stoneJan 16, 2023 09:18 PM
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Quote from whocares1 :
How much is insurance cost for model y per month?
If I tell you a price, will yours be more or less? Call you insurance company and ask them.
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BrightHalibut7933Jan 16, 2023 09:18 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
The IRS has no updated guidelines b/c the govt has not sit down to write the restrictions. Towards the end of 2022, they stated that they're planning to write this up in March 2023. There is NO set date for the meetings so far.

Even if they met in March, it is unclear how long it would take for them to finalize the actual restrictions and when the changes would reflect the updated guidance.

It is presumed by Tesla that they will only be eligible for HALF the 7500 since the battery components itself do not meet the criteria (not made in the US), but it is just a guess.



https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after


any other 3 row options that're below $50K real world price.. Very few SUVs even come close to OP Y deal:



Audi of America, LLC


Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2023 Audi Q5 TFSI e Quattro (PHEV) $80,000
BMW of North America, LLC

Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2021, 2022, 2023 BMW 330e $55,000
2021, 2022, 2023 BMW X5 xDrive45e $80,000
Ford Motor Company (including Ford and Lincoln brands)

Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2022, 2023 Ford Escape Plug-In Hybrid $55,000
2022, 2023 Ford E-Transit $80,000
2022, 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning $80,000
2022, 2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E $55,000
2022, 2023 Lincoln Aviator Grand Touring $80,000
2022, 2023 Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring $55,000
General Motors LLC (including GMC, Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac brands)

Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2022, 2023 Chevrolet Bolt $55,000
2022, 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EUV $55,000
2022, 2023 Cadillac Lyriq $55,000

Volkswagen Group of America


Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2023 Volkswagen ID.4 $55,000
2023 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro $55,000
2023 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S $55,000
2023 Volkswagen ID.4 S $55,000
2023 Volkswagen ID.4 AWD Pro $80,000
2023 Volkswagen ID.4 AWD Pro S $80,000
Volvo Car North America, LLC


Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2022 Volvo S60 (PHEV) $55,000
2022 Volvo S60 Extended Range $55,000
2023 Volvo S60 T8 Recharge (Extended Range) $55,000
Last edited by BrightHalibut7933 January 16, 2023 at 02:26 PM.
Jan 16, 2023 09:21 PM
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BrightHalibut7933Jan 16, 2023 09:21 PM
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Quote from conquistadorst :
I have the same question, but I don't think anyone knows the answer yet at this point. The IRS has the best idea, but they aren't sharing. The reason for the ambiguous March timeframe is because the IRS themselves have announced guidance that created this TEMPORARY loophole. They said they will revisit the 2023 tax guidance on EV rebates sometime in March. They didn't even announce a day in March either. After that who knows, it might go poof altogether. I would expect it to NOT stay at $7,500. Do yourself a favor and assume it won't be there after that timeframe to save yourself hurt and bitterness. We probably won't get any warning, it'll just pop up one day in March.

If anyone has any more accurate up-to-date information please share!
I remember that happening last year when IRA was signed. Kia sent out a now or never email that weekend. But they wanted $50K+ for a Sorrento. Glad I waited for the Y at that price


https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after

TSLA

Tesla Inc.


Model Year Vehicle Description Applicable MSRP Limit
2022, 2023 Tesla Model 3 Rear Wheel Drive $55,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model 3 Long Range $55,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model Y All-Wheel Drive - 7 seat variant (3-rows) $80,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model Y Long Range - 7 seat variant (3-rows) $80,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance - 7 seat variant (3-rows) $80,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model Y All-Wheel Drive - 5 seat variant (2-rows) $55,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model Y Long Range - 5 seat variant (2-rows) $55,000
2022, 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance - 5 seat variant (2-rows) $55,000
Jan 16, 2023 09:23 PM
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rprotosJan 16, 2023 09:23 PM
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Does everyone understand that this tax credit is a non refundable an you have to have a tax liability of 7500 in order to get the credit. That and the credit goes towards what you owe in taxes not a check that gets mailed.
Jan 16, 2023 09:26 PM
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vishnumraoJan 16, 2023 09:26 PM
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Quote from slayu :
It looks like there's a in income limit for the CVRP program as well?
Thanks for pointing that out. It appears that after 02/24/2022, they have made the criteria more restrictive.

https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...ligibility

Lots of people may become ineligible.
Jan 16, 2023 09:27 PM
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Nkq5Jan 16, 2023 09:27 PM
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Just saved me more $$$ than I have saved on all other Slickdeals COMBINED AND TIMES 5
Thank you
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toromacJan 16, 2023 09:29 PM
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I love the fools who say "you don't need parking assist for such a small car". Karma will take care of those people. Wait until they hit a curb parking at walgreens etc. Or they don't allow their wife to drive it maybe? Either way, enjoy having the most scratched up Tesla. Tesla eliminating park assist was for cost savings pure and simple

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Quote from toromac :
I love the fools who say "you don't need parking assist for such a small car". Karma will take care of those people. Wait until they hit a curb parking at walgreens etc. Or they don't allow their wife to drive it maybe? Either way, enjoy having the most scratched up Tesla. Tesla eliminating park assist was for cost savings pure and simple
I have a 17 camry and no scratch in alloy rims that i have on SE .. I have Tesla too It also dont have parking sensors 🤣🤣🤣
I dont care looks like you are half blind and parking sensors are for half blind people
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