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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 22, 2023 06:30 PM
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SDSummerDayJan 22, 2023 06:30 PM
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Wow. Looks like Tesla is going to do a home delivery.... Totally wasn't expect that, as I was going to do a walkthrough to make sure no major issues before final payment.
Guess I need to call their sales agent to see if I can pick up instead of drop off.
Jan 22, 2023 06:35 PM
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t.i.Jan 22, 2023 06:35 PM
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Quote from IndiaPaleAle :
Buyer's remorse is a powerful stimulant. San Bernardino?
No, Newport Beach.
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Jan 22, 2023 06:36 PM
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Quote from t.i. :
All the counselors left for San Fransisco. How's the crime rate in the city?
Don't live there/don't care but Embarcadero seemed fairly pleasant yesterday, super crowded. Btw, you can just message me. Smilie
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94c107ea-869c-45a5-becd-c6b552Jan 22, 2023 06:38 PM
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Quote from t.i. :
No, Newport Beach.
And you're worried about free charging, OK. Smilie
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Jan 22, 2023 06:39 PM
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t.i.Jan 22, 2023 06:39 PM
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Quote from IndiaPaleAle :
Don't live there/don't care but Embarcadero seemed fairly pleasant yesterday. How's San Bernardino treating you?
Hmmm...Last I check SF was in Bay Area. You re-districted SF out of bay area too like your selective reasoning with Tesla.
I guess everything is possible in the dreams.
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t.i.Jan 22, 2023 06:39 PM
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Quote from IndiaPaleAle :
And you're worried about free charging, OK. Smilie
Am I?
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xiaoq90Jan 22, 2023 06:53 PM
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Quote from dealstapori15 :
One of the Biggest question does elon musk really care about not bringing their own customers Tesla owned Vehicle price keep on bringing down which eventually leaves this toy to keep forever. Tesla only advantage is Autopilot and Full Capability Driving software which is 20k. Anyone does not care about Autopilot and Full capability driving software: U need to ask why u care about to go with Tesla compared to 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Or even KIA EV9 in terms of luxury and performance. I do not support any CEO of Automobiles who bring down the value of their product hugely impacting the customer modal asset to go down.
reliable supercharger network?the horse power?consistent software update adding new functions?
Last edited by xiaoq90 January 22, 2023 at 12:00 PM.
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inthecityJan 22, 2023 07:03 PM
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Quote from clau :
Where do you live? 41.8c/KWH is really high. $3.19/gallon is really low. Tesla Superchargers' off-peak rates are less than 40c/KWH. Electrify America charges 31c/KWH if you signed up on their plan that costs $4/month. You need the CCS adaptor though, to use EA's chargers.

I enjoy free charging at my workplace, but that is not common, I guess.
$ 3.19 is today's price of regular unleaded gas in my area. I live in MA. I pay 25.77c/KW (supplier Rate) and a delivery Rate of 16.095c/KW. Most people who are a using Electricity rates for gas cost savings comparisons are not including the delivery rates. Gas cost savings are frequently cited as the reason to transition to EV. There are several other reasons to transition to EV, GAS cost savings is no longer one of them.
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clauJan 22, 2023 07:06 PM
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Quote from xiaoq90 :
reliable supercharger network?the horse power?consistent software update adding new functions?
And also the $7.5K incentive assuming one qualifies.

To me, one of the biggest advantages: No dealer markup! And also no pressure to buy the extended warranty and a myriad of useless add-ons.
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FishKillaJan 22, 2023 07:08 PM
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Quote from inthecity :
$ 3.19 is today's price of regular unleaded gas in my area. I live in MA. I pay 25.77c/KW (supplier Rate) and a delivery Rate of 16.095c/KW. Most people who are a using Electricity rates for gas cost savings comparisons are not including the delivery rates. Gas cost savings are frequently cited as the reason to transition to EV. There are several other reasons to transition to EV, GAS cost savings is no longer one of them.
100% This. My generation costs are like .12/kWh but delivery charge is another .12 or so, almost .25/kWh.

Careful now, this post is subject to deletion by the mods. It tells the truth.
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sussigJan 22, 2023 07:08 PM
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can someone check their car and see if ccs is enabled by default ?
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Nos4r2Jan 22, 2023 07:10 PM
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Quote from fangsz :
How good are Tesla's trade in values
My offer appears to be about $1000 low.
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clauJan 22, 2023 07:14 PM
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Quote from inthecity :
$ 3.19 is today's price of regular unleaded gas in my area. I live in MA. I pay 25.77c/KW (supplier Rate) and a delivery Rate of 16.095c/KW. Most people who are a using Electricity rates for gas cost savings comparisons are not including the delivery rates. Gas cost savings are frequently cited as the reason to transition to EV. There are several other reasons to transition to EV, GAS cost savings is no longer one of them.
I am in the Bay Area. The off-peak rate for EV is 24 cents/KWH. Gasoline price is still over $4/gallon. Off peak is from 12 am to 4 pm.

Like I said, if you pay over 40c/KWH, go use Tesla's Superchargers or EA's.

Gas savings, and maintenance savings, are still major reasons to buy EV's.
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