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As of Feb 3, IRS the Treasury Department just fixed the EV tax credit's Tesla Model Y problem and the cap is $80k for ALL models now.
Ordered Date and App Time; City/State; Model; Delivery Date
01/13/2023; 7pm CST, Dallas, TX; MY, Est Jan 22nd to Feb 5th
01/13/2023; Ohio; M3, Est Mid Feb to March
01/15/2023; Oahu, Hawaii; MY; February 19 - March 26
01/14/2023; 9pm; Los Angeles, CA; MY (Blue); February 4 - March 4 (edit// now February 14 - March 21 as of 1/24/23) (edit2// February 8 - February 22 as of 1/30/23) (edit3// VIN assigned [PA066*]; February 15 - February 24 as of 2/4/23)
01/13/2023; 11:29am EDT; Boston/MA; MY White/Black wheels; January 19 - came with defect and went promptly to body shop without picking up
01/13/2023: 12pm PT, Los Angeles, CA; MY (white) no options; Jan 26 - Feb 26, then 10 days later got VIN, then three days later scheduled delivery for Feb 5.
Who Qualifies
You may qualify for a credit up to $7,500 under Internal Revenue Code Section 30D if you buy a new, qualified plug-in EV or fuel cell electric vehicle (FCV). The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 changed the rules for this credit for vehicles purchased from 2023 to 2032.
The credit is available to individuals and their businesses.
To qualify, you must:
Buy it for your own use, not for resale
Use it primarily in the U.S.
In addition, your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) may not exceed:
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers
You can use your modified AGI from the year you take delivery of the vehicle or the year before, whichever is less. If your modified AGI is below the threshold in 1 of the two years, you can claim the credit.
The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...quireme
The sale qualifies only if:
You buy the vehicle new
The seller reports required information to you at the time of sale and to the IRS.
Sellers are required to report your name and taxpayer identification number to the IRS for you to be eligible to claim the credit.
The new law requires the POS (Dealer or manufacturer) to report a bunch of information on the buyer to the IRS.
Such as:
Seller/Dealer name and taxpayer ID number
Buyer's name and taxpayer ID number
Maximum credit allowable under IRC 30D for new vehicles or IRC 25E for previously owned vehicles
Vehicle identification number (VIN), unless the vehicle is not assigned one
Battery capacity
Date of sale
Sale price
For new vehicles, verification that the buyer is the original user
CALIFORNIA
Now the Model 3 and Y do qualify for CVRP rebate up to $4,500 ($2,000 + $2,500 income eligible ) up to $7,500 after February 2023.
https://cleanvehiclereb
Summary of February 28, 2023 updates:
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In addition to the standard CVRP rebate, consumers with household income less than or equal to 400 percent of the federal poverty level are eligible for an increased rebate amount of $5,500 (previously $2,500) for BEVs and PHEVs, and $3,000 (previously $2,500) for FCEVs. This amounts to:
……….$7,500 for battery-electric vehicles (previously $4,500)
https://cleanvehiclereb
B Thank you for your email. Vehicle manufacturers must apply for Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP) eligibility with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) and meet a number of program requirements. If all program requirements are met, the vehicle is added to the list of eligible vehicles on our website. At this time, Tesla has not applied.
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Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.
For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.
I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.
The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.
And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.
The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.
Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.
Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.
"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.
He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.
Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.
i hope this answers your question
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design
I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:
* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)
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Not only does Tesla know exactly how many vehicles are charging at each location. It also knows the charge level of each vehicle and it could estimate the wait time for a Supercharger based on how many Teslas are nearby with a low state of charge.
Based on all of this information Tesla can come up with great suggestions on the best place to charge to reduce your overall trip time.
Weird you'd try and paint a significant improvement in user experience as "so bad"-- especially given every other brand of EV charger is drastically worse (EA especially being famous for people arriving at a station- the only one they can even reach- and finding it not working at all with no notice)
"Tesla made the best charging experience in the industry even better- how awful!"
**not actually factual.
What ACTUALLY happens is it sets your default charge limit to 80%.
If you need more you just slide the limit on the car screen- or the app- to a higher number- including up to 100%.
Again you paint a simple, obvious, not-an-acutal problem AS a problem because you do not understand how any of this works.
There's a reason folks with other EVs are desperate to access Teslas charging network- it's by far the best in the world.
Yeah, I mean all other brands have... oh...wait...
Examples of new car door alignment problems from:
BMW
https://f30.bimmerpost.
https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/sh...?t=1593058
https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/sh...p?t=595827
Mercedes
https://www.aclassclub.
https://www.glaowners.c
https://www.benzworld.o
Toyota
https://www.toyotanatio
https://www.toyotanatio
https://www.toyotanatio
Honda
https://www.driveaccord
https://www.driveaccord
https://www.driveaccord
it's almost like all car makers have minor quality problems even ones that've been making cars for 100+ years or something.
as noted in most of those threads for other brands (and ones about similar problems from Tesla) this is among the easier things for a service center to adjust (or even an owner if you're mildly handy and don't want to bother with service).
Yeah, ideally EVERY example of a mass produced thing would come out identical and perfect- but that just ain't so in the real world... for any brand.
My Lexus had more physical defects than my Tesla did out of the factory. (NOT suggesting that's typical, but the idea everyone else makes perfect cars is a fantasy)
HAHAHAHAHA. You mean they found enough suckers to buy up the old inventory so they can retool the plants for the new design?
Wait until you see the price of used teslas plummet when everyone trades in the old model for the new. Talk about fire sale!
Looking to refinance now that I have everything in order -
1) Looks like TFCU is dead
2) GCFCU still on with 2.74% refi rate
I searched on GCFCU this entire forum and yet to find a post that confirms their loan was complete.
Anyone has any other suggestions, currently mine is with DCU @ 4.99%
Looking to refinance now that I have everything in order -
1) Looks like TFCU is dead
2) GCFCU still on with 2.74% refi rate
I searched on GCFCU this entire forum and yet to find a post that confirms their loan was complete.
Anyone has any other suggestions, currently mine is with DCU @ 4.99%
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Looking to refinance now that I have everything in order -
1) Looks like TFCU is dead
2) GCFCU still on with 2.74% refi rate
I searched on GCFCU this entire forum and yet to find a post that confirms their loan was complete.
Anyone has any other suggestions, currently mine is with DCU @ 4.99%
they are slammed with applications so dont expect to hear back anytime soon.
Wait until you see the price of used teslas plummet when everyone trades in the old model for the new. Talk about fire sale!
I mean if I buy a BMW I don't have to worry about new models/HW?
I mean, they didn't HAVE to--- but unlike all other car makers, they could do this to, once again, improve owner experience with an OTA update.
Not only does Tesla know exactly how many vehicles are charging at each location. It also knows the charge level of each vehicle and it could estimate the wait time for a Supercharger based on how many Teslas are nearby with a low state of charge.
Based on all of this information Tesla can come up with great suggestions on the best place to charge to reduce your overall trip time.
Weird you'd try and paint a significant improvement in user experience as "so bad"-- especially given every other brand of EV charger is drastically worse (EA especially being famous for people arriving at a station- the only one they can even reach- and finding it not working at all with no notice)
"Tesla made the best charging experience in the industry even better- how awful!"
**not actually factual.
What ACTUALLY happens is it sets your default charge limit to 80%.
If you need more you just slide the limit on the car screen- or the app- to a higher number- including up to 100%.
Of course it does. Batteries charge slower at the top end of the range... so if you don't actually NEED more than 80% (and you don't unless you're driving like 500+ miles in a single day which is rare) then it makes sense to default to 80.... and you can slide it up to 90 or 100 or whatever if you want.
Again you paint a simple, obvious, not-an-acutal problem AS a problem because you do not understand how any of this works.
Quite the opposite given how quickly they are expanding the charging network-- especially with billions in government funds now making the expansion even quicker.
There's a reason folks with other EVs are desperate to access Teslas charging network- it's by far the best in the world.
They're doubling it this year. As already mentioned to you.
Tesla admits they need to triple not double.....
There's a reason folks with other EVs are desperate to access Teslas charging network- it's by far the best in the world.
Increased demand from not only outside maker EVs, but I don't think they forecasted the amount of new Teslas that are hitting the road. This is proven by the fact they our now out of production vehicles available for sale.
Waiting for the release of the opportunity to purchase a monthly Premium Charge Agreement that gives charging priority to Tesla vehicles. Maybe that was the plan all along...
Only going to get worse....
They're doubling it this year. As already mentioned to you.
Tesla admits they need to triple not double.....
There's a reason folks with other EVs are desperate to access Teslas charging network- it's by far the best in the world.
Increased demand from not only outside maker EVs, but I don't think they forecasted the amount of new Teslas that are hitting the road. This is proven by the fact they our now out of production vehicles available for sale.
Waiting for the release of the opportunity to purchase a monthly Premium Charge Agreement that gives charging priority to Tesla vehicles. Maybe that was the plan all along...
Only going to get worse....
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I have a CT on order just like the rest of the world. I'll make my decision when it becomes available. Right now EV is not the best choice for me. Ford Lightning has really highlighted some issues regarding the utility of an EV truck.
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