Slickdeals is community-supported.  We may get paid by brands for deals, including promoted items.
Forum Thread

10gbps enclosure NVME drive suggestions

2,511 324 January 19, 2023 at 09:46 AM
Hi, I have a 10gbps NVME enclosure and am looking to see what people suggest for a drive.

I'm leaning towards pcie gen 3 since it will be limited to 10gbps. I have been looking and a TeamGroup MP34 1tb or Silicon Power A80 might be good.

Are these bad, or are there any other options anyone recommends?

Thanks Smilie
About the OP
Joined Jul 2014 L7: Teacher
324 Reputation Points
54 Deals Posted
256 Votes Submitted
2,511 Comments Posted

Your comment cannot be blank.

Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.

Joined Jun 2005
Let Sleeping Dogs Lie
> bubble2 8,770 Posts
3,152 Reputation
komondor
01-19-2023 at 12:42 PM.
01-19-2023 at 12:42 PM.
what do you intend to use the storage for and how many drives do you plan on using/

The teamgroup has 2x the TBW of the Silicon power near as I could tell price seems low at 66 bucks at Amazon?

If you are using a few in RAID I would look at a heat sink and what your cooling is going to be.

reviews are mixed but if you do RAID and keep track of any issues you could be fine just needing to replace drives. A comparable enterprise drive will cost 6X as much at least.
Reply
Joined Jul 2014
L7: Teacher
> bubble2 2,511 Posts
324 Reputation
Original Poster
bert90987
01-19-2023 at 01:39 PM.
01-19-2023 at 01:39 PM.
Quote from komondor :
what do you intend to use the storage for and how many drives do you plan on using/

The teamgroup has 2x the TBW of the Silicon power near as I could tell price seems low at 66 bucks at Amazon?

If you are using a few in RAID I would look at a heat sink and what your cooling is going to be.

reviews are mixed but if you do RAID and keep track of any issues you could be fine just needing to replace drives. A comparable enterprise drive will cost 6X as much at least.

Thanks for the information. It's mostly going to be used as data storage. I know that an external hard drive would be cheaper per tb. But I want to use this in addition to an external hard drive for redundancy and to use a different format for redundancy. I'm also worried that a lower quality drive like wd sn350 might have too low of a tbw rating.
Reply
Last edited by bert90987 January 19, 2023 at 01:47 PM.
Joined Jul 2003
L10: Grand Master
> bubble2 35,473 Posts
6,286 Reputation
DC
01-19-2023 at 02:35 PM.
01-19-2023 at 02:35 PM.
Quote from bert90987 :
... and to use a different format for redundancy. ....
Could you please expand on that...and/or define 'format' in this instance?
Reply
Joined Jul 2014
L7: Teacher
> bubble2 2,511 Posts
324 Reputation
Original Poster
bert90987
01-19-2023 at 04:14 PM.
01-19-2023 at 04:14 PM.
Quote from DC :
Could you please expand on that...and/or define 'format' in this instance?

Sorry I meant using a different device to save that doesn't use the same spinning disk technology than an hdd uses. I read that hard drives can fail more easily than a ssd. But hdd will keep its data and avoid it getting corrupted compared to an ssd. So both ssd and hdd have their drawbacks.
Reply
Joined Jun 2005
Let Sleeping Dogs Lie
> bubble2 8,770 Posts
3,152 Reputation
komondor
01-20-2023 at 06:13 AM.
01-20-2023 at 06:13 AM.
Raid will cover you as far a a drive failure is concerned a 1TB drive is this day is not much storage the computer I am on now has 14 TB of total storage and has about 2 TB free.
Part of that is file history on an external drive.
Reply
Joined Jul 2014
L7: Teacher
> bubble2 2,511 Posts
324 Reputation
Original Poster
bert90987
01-20-2023 at 06:27 AM.
01-20-2023 at 06:27 AM.
Quote from komondor :
Raid will cover you as far a a drive failure is concerned a 1TB drive is this day is not much storage the computer I am on now has 14 TB of total storage and has about 2 TB free.
Part of that is file history on an external drive.
Interesting. My use case right now is definitely very consumer level. I feel as though over time I might want to use an old laptop to create a home server and attach external drives to it. My budget for this is limited, so I think I might try to get a 1 or 2tb drive and upgrade down the road as my storage needs increase.

Are you planning on changing your storage method in any way to ensure that you don't run out? thanks
Reply
Joined Jun 2005
Let Sleeping Dogs Lie
> bubble2 8,770 Posts
3,152 Reputation
komondor
01-20-2023 at 06:39 AM.
01-20-2023 at 06:39 AM.
I just keep buying enterprise class spinning drives I have a 4 bay NAS with 6TB drives along with another computer with 5 external drives and a Dell Server.
I have security cameras that all store locally.

I have a few 1 TB SSD but use them for when I need speed. I had a backup server at my old job with 12 TB spinners using RAID 6 I could spin up a VM that worked very well. Comparable to a regular desktop with a consumer level SSD. The drives all had 512MB cache so they almost acted as though they had a SSD cache drive.
Reply

Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.

Joined Jul 2003
L10: Grand Master
> bubble2 35,473 Posts
6,286 Reputation
DC
01-20-2023 at 09:20 AM.
01-20-2023 at 09:20 AM.
Quote from bert90987 :
Sorry I meant using a different device to save that doesn't use the same spinning disk technology than an hdd uses. I read that hard drives can fail more easily than a ssd. But hdd will keep its data and avoid it getting corrupted compared to an ssd. So both ssd and hdd have their drawbacks.
Thanks for expanding on that.
Quote from bert90987 :
Interesting. My use case right now is definitely very consumer level. I feel as though over time I might want to use an old laptop to create a home server and attach external drives to it. My budget for this is limited, so I think I might try to get a 1 or 2tb drive and upgrade down the road as my storage needs increase.

Are you planning on changing your storage method in any way to ensure that you don't run out? thanks
One thing to realize is that if you go to upgrade the size of the drives in a NAS, you then are tasked with where to put the data that currently resides on the existing drives so that new drives can be installed.

Typically when re-doing a RAID, you destroy the existing RAID and thus losing all data on the drives.

So with that said...when you upgrade down the road it would be far easier to have a new enclosure with new bigger drives to migrate your data off your existing NAS.
I'm used to doing this at an Enterprise level when we evergreen the old equipment.

*Others may have different info on the dedicated home NAS systems where the NAS OS can absorb new, bigger drives and utilize their full size vs. curtailing it.
Think 6x 1TB drives and you replace 1 with a 2TB drive...Normally the 2TB would be configured by the RAID as 1TB instead of 2TB, thus wasting 50% of the drive's space.
Reply
Joined Jul 2014
L7: Teacher
> bubble2 2,511 Posts
324 Reputation
Original Poster
bert90987
01-20-2023 at 09:37 AM.
01-20-2023 at 09:37 AM.
Quote from DC :
Thanks for expanding on that.

One thing to realize is that if you go to upgrade the size of the drives in a NAS, you then are tasked with where to put the data that currently resides on the existing drives so that new drives can be installed.

Typically when re-doing a RAID, you destroy the existing RAID and thus losing all data on the drives.

So with that said...when you upgrade down the road it would be far easier to have a new enclosure with new bigger drives to migrate your data off your existing NAS.
I'm used to doing this at an Enterprise level when we evergreen the old equipment.

*Others may have different info on the dedicated home NAS systems where the NAS OS can absorb new, bigger drives and utilize their full size vs. curtailing it.
Think 6x 1TB drives and you replace 1 with a 2TB drive...Normally the 2TB would be configured by the RAID as 1TB instead of 2TB, thus wasting 50% of the drive's space.
Thanks for the information. Part of me thinks that getting something like a WD my cloud device might be easier and cheaper than doing my own NAS enclosure. I know that it is not the same as raid nas but there seem to be so many options out there for data storage that it gets a bit overwhelming. It is admittedly a down the road issue that I will eventually deal with.
Reply
Joined Jun 2005
Let Sleeping Dogs Lie
> bubble2 8,770 Posts
3,152 Reputation
komondor
01-20-2023 at 09:51 AM.
01-20-2023 at 09:51 AM.
If you are going to use the cloud make sure you have a fast upload connection.
With most RAID you can pop in new drives and once they are all installed either expand the RAID or create a new raid with the difference in space.

for Synology look here
https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM...?version=7

Use the cloud for photos with Amazon or Google etc
Reply
Joined Jul 2014
L7: Teacher
> bubble2 2,511 Posts
324 Reputation
Original Poster
bert90987
01-25-2023 at 06:34 AM.
01-25-2023 at 06:34 AM.
Quote from komondor :
If you are going to use the cloud make sure you have a fast upload connection.
With most RAID you can pop in new drives and once they are all installed either expand the RAID or create a new raid with the difference in space.

for Synology look here
https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM...?version=7

Use the cloud for photos with Amazon or Google etc
Thanks I appreciate it.
Reply
Page 1 of 1
Start the Conversation
 
Link Copied

The link has been copied to the clipboard.