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Stanley Sweetheart No.4 Bench Plane (Brass)
$128.60
$174.82
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Amazon Global Store UK has Stanley Sweetheart No.4 Bench Plane (Brass, 112136) on sale for $128.33 > now $128.62. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member EfficientSwing330 for finding this deal.
Key Features:
Thanks to Community Member EfficientSwing330 for finding this deal.
Key Features:
- Iron is made from extra-thick 1/8" (3.18 mm) A2 steel for excellent edge retention
- One-piece base and frog virtually eliminate chatter
- Cherry wood handle and knob for comfort
- Norris-type adjuster with lateral locking feature
- Adjustable throat plate for different types of wood
- Replacement Blade 12-141
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Edited January 26, 2023
at 04:40 PM
Nice discount on an essential woodworking tool. The modern Stanley Sweetheart line is often recommended as a best value bench plane and competitive in quality with planes twice the cost.
For price comparison, the list price for this is currently $240, and is on sale at Rockler for $180.
Amazon global store listings include customs, taxes and shipping in the price and are priced in dollars so there are no foreign transaction fees
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002LTUOI6 Now $128.62
For price comparison, the list price for this is currently $240, and is on sale at Rockler for $180.
Amazon global store listings include customs, taxes and shipping in the price and are priced in dollars so there are no foreign transaction fees
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002LTUOI6 Now $128.62
Created 01-22-2023
at 03:07 PM
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This is a tool that should work out of the box. But to use it for what it is intended, and for it to do a good job, requires quite a bit of work and know-how. Nothing extreme. But enough to deter most from learning and performing the steps to do things like flatten the sole, file down any bits with slight imperfections, and perform initial and regular sharpening.
It's a bench plane. It's intended to be used on a sturdy bench with the wood secured properly. And it's intended to be used for finer woodworking tasks like making nice furniture. It can be used to flatten and smooth any wood. But ergonomically, it's not ideal typical carpentry types of tasks where you are either on the move or not focused on butter-smooth perfection.
If woodworking in a shop is a hobby or your profession, then learning about and using bench planes could be a great addition. If not, I'd recommend you start out with a block plane for normal homeowner tasks.
A block plane is a much smaller investment. It's also much smaller all around. That means it is much easier to store, transport, and even carry in a pocket or apron. It also takes less time to flatten and setup if you'd like to try that out.
(Source: I picked up hand tool woodworking as a Pandemic hobby. I'm still very much a novice on the subject. But I'm hoping to provide realistic advice where I can.
I actually own this exact Stanley plane. While I can answer some hands-on question about it, I haven't used any Veritas, Lee Neilson, or vintage Stanleys to compare with.)
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They are most of a hobby and they create far less dust compared to power tools.
Lee Vally, Lie Nielsen and Stanley
A hand plane is meant to be a precise tool. Especially a smoothing plane (No 4). People using these aren't trying to make things kinda flat. They want to be able to reliably cut through the wood. And they want to be able to make adjustments quickly.
I own the Amazon plane in Matt's video. I purchased it specifically to be converted into a scrub plane [youtube.com]. It works fine for this, since a scrub plane may not even need adjusting. But I can tell you that trying to use it as a smoother is a nightmare.
If you just need to use it occasionally, I think you can get buy with a cheap block plane just fine. But if you are trying to use a No 4 as intended, you really want it to work well. That means spending a lot of time, money, or a mix of both.
Plus the quality control was terrible on the one I received. There was about 8 turns worth of backlash in the depth adjustment. And when I blew the sawdust off before I sent it back, the paint came off in big flakes. This is probably one of the worst hand tools I've owned.
For a fraction of the price, you could buy an superior Lie-Nielsen made in the US or a Canadian-made Veritas with a PM-V11 blade, which is pretty much the best alloy there is for an iron.
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Lee Vally, Lie Nielsen and Stanley
The adjusters are a little different between the planes; LV favors "norris" adjusters where LN are more like vintage stanley bailey's. Both work and there is nothing wrong with either.
The LN is slightly more expensive but also holds value a bit more. Both are definitely premium brands, I'd say LN probably garners slightly more esteem, but they're definitely punching in the same weight class and a user of one will appreciate the other.
The Stanley's will likely require some cleanup, the sole will need flattening, the blade back may not be flat, the grind of the blade may not be as good, the sharpness may not be as well done. All stuff you as the end user can fix, but having one with all the busy work done for an extra hundred bucks may be worth it... especially when you retain a lot of resale value with LN and LV, but collectors don't care at all about new stanley.
My most used planes are an LV 4, and LV low angle jack, and LV dx60 block, and a vintage Stanley 4 1/2 with a hock blade. They're all good at different tasks and I often use them together.