ShopWorn has Ball Fireman Storm Chaser Pro Automatch Chronograph Watch (Various Styles) on sale for $999 when you apply promo code SWBA999 in your cart. Shipping is free.
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I was very tempted by this last time it was on SD. I would love to add a Ball Watch to my collection but I think they are just too big for me at 42mm. But for $999 for an automatic chronograph, it's a great price. I'm going to pass, but definitely recommend this deal if you're in the market for an entry-level luxury watch.
I was very tempted by this last time it was on SD. I would love to add a Ball Watch to my collection but I think they are just too big for me at 42mm. But for $999 for an automatic chronograph, it's a great price. I'm going to pass, but definitely recommend this deal if you're in the market for an entry-level luxury watch.
Interesting. I don't really care what company owns them unless it is a Chinese company. In that case I would probably not buy the watch brand. I'll have to do more research on this.
Seems illogical at best (and racist at worst) to write off a company simply based on ownership, if the quality is still high and operations are fundamentally unchanged. It'd be a different matter if costs were cut and manufacturing was outsourced costing jobs in the original country, but that's not the case here. As another example, would you automatically write off Volvo just because it is now a subsidiary of Geely?
Seems illogical at best (and racist at worst) to write off a company simply based on ownership, if the quality is still high and operations are fundamentally unchanged. It'd be a different matter if costs were cut and manufacturing was outsourced costing jobs in the original country, but that's not the case here. As another example, would you automatically write off Volvo just because it is now a subsidiary of Geely?
I don't know anything about Geely so can't answer that. But as stated, only China is on my boycott list. I will say I love and own many Samsung products. I would say more but this isn't a political forum. Suffice it to say I do what I can for my country to protect it from its enemies.
about what lol? Why this is a good deal? It has a movement based on the Valjoux 7750. Most watches with that movement start around $1500+ usually around $2k. Plus with this you get tritium. Honestly, I can't really think of any automatic chronograph from a legacy watch brand that is going to cost around $1k new + 2 year warranty.
I don't know anything about Geely so can't answer that. But as stated, only China is on my boycott list. I will say I love and own many Samsung products. I would say more but this isn't a political forum. Suffice it to say I do what I can for my country to protect it from its enemies.
Again, I'm not being political here, just trying to understand your logic because it doesn't make sense to me.
If a company changed hands and now has Chinese ownership, but continues to operate the same way, produce the same quality goods, and continues to invest in creating local jobs, why would you automatically boycott them over say, American-owned companies that are shipping manufacturing and jobs overseas? Wouldn't continuing to support the American-owned but outsourcing company be hurting our country compared to the Chinese-owned one that employs Americans?
As an example, TSMC is a Taiwanese/Chinese chip-manufacturing giant, but they plan to open a large high-tech fab in the US. Are they automatically bad to you? Tesla receives large subsidies from and is influenced by Chinese interests, but is the only car manufacturer who builds cars for the American market entirely domestically; as opposed to say, GM, which continues to shut down our factories and move manufacturing to Mexico. I don't think buying a GM car is helping America at all, just the fat suits who own GM. It shouldn't matter who owns the company, but rather, how the ownership behaves and runs the company.
Obviously, some foreign companies, especially state-owned ones are bad, and should be avoided. But if you really want to help our country, it's better to think critically about the specific situation, rather than just assuming "China = bad". Just some food for thought, as it's not so black and white. In any case, I respect your good intentions, just encourage you to not write off an entire country. Cheers!
EDIT: FWIW, you might want to look into Samsung and the whole situation with "chaebols" in Korea. I know it's not relevant to the matter of doing what's good for America, but from an ethical standpoint, they are very questionable. They're like the mafia over there.
I was going to say exactly what the above comment mentioned: 42mm is kind of standard. 46 - sure, that's big, I get it. I have a couple of 42mm watches and I have a pretty small wrist - they look fine. It just takes some time to get used to the weight.
Again, I'm not being political here, just trying to understand your logic because it doesn't make sense to me.
If a company changed hands and now has Chinese ownership, but continues to operate the same way, produce the same quality goods, and continues to invest in creating local jobs, why would you automatically boycott them over say, American-owned companies that are shipping manufacturing and jobs overseas? Wouldn't continuing to support the American-owned but outsourcing company be hurting our country compared to the Chinese-owned one that employs Americans?
As an example, TSMC is a Taiwanese/Chinese chip-manufacturing giant, but they plan to open a large high-tech fab in the US. Are they automatically bad to you? Tesla receives large subsidies from and is influenced by Chinese interests, but is the only car manufacturer who builds cars for the American market entirely domestically; as opposed to say, GM, which continues to shut down our factories and move manufacturing to Mexico. I don't think buying a GM car is helping America at all, just the fat suits who own GM. It shouldn't matter who owns the company, but rather, how the ownership behaves and runs the company.
Obviously, some foreign companies, especially state-owned ones are bad, and should be avoided. But if you really want to help our country, it's better to think critically about the specific situation, rather than just assuming "China = bad". Just some food for thought, as it's not so black and white. In any case, I respect your good intentions, just encourage you to not write off an entire country. Cheers!
EDIT: FWIW, you might want to look into Samsung and the whole situation with "chaebols" in Korea. I know it's not relevant to the matter of doing what's good for America, but from an ethical standpoint, they are very questionable. They're like the mafia over there.
As a quick point of note: TSMC is a wholly owned Taiwanese company. As you may know, Taiwan and China are different countries that hate each other.
Got the RED STAR 38mm Men's Chronograph Mechanical Watches Pilot Seagull ST1901 Movement on aliexpress , price paid 162$ . Trying to get started on my first mechanical crono
Its a little big for my wrists, but this is a really good deal. In fact, checking on watchrecon, I bet you could buy this and flip it for about what you pay.
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As a quick point of note: TSMC is a wholly owned Taiwanese company. As you may know, Taiwan and China are different countries that hate each other.
That is factually incorrect. Taiwan may be de facto self-governing, but virtually every country including the United States as well as the UN's official stance is that Taiwan is a part of China. Literally half of TSMC's current manufacturing capacity is located within the Chinese mainland. I completely get what you are saying in terms of de facto governance, but in the context of the previous poster who is saying he's writing off anything associated with Chinese ownership, TSMC would still be a valid example legally speaking.
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Seems illogical at best (and racist at worst) to write off a company simply based on ownership, if the quality is still high and operations are fundamentally unchanged. It'd be a different matter if costs were cut and manufacturing was outsourced costing jobs in the original country, but that's not the case here. As another example, would you automatically write off Volvo just because it is now a subsidiary of Geely?
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If a company changed hands and now has Chinese ownership, but continues to operate the same way, produce the same quality goods, and continues to invest in creating local jobs, why would you automatically boycott them over say, American-owned companies that are shipping manufacturing and jobs overseas? Wouldn't continuing to support the American-owned but outsourcing company be hurting our country compared to the Chinese-owned one that employs Americans?
As an example, TSMC is a Taiwanese/Chinese chip-manufacturing giant, but they plan to open a large high-tech fab in the US. Are they automatically bad to you? Tesla receives large subsidies from and is influenced by Chinese interests, but is the only car manufacturer who builds cars for the American market entirely domestically; as opposed to say, GM, which continues to shut down our factories and move manufacturing to Mexico. I don't think buying a GM car is helping America at all, just the fat suits who own GM. It shouldn't matter who owns the company, but rather, how the ownership behaves and runs the company.
Obviously, some foreign companies, especially state-owned ones are bad, and should be avoided. But if you really want to help our country, it's better to think critically about the specific situation, rather than just assuming "China = bad". Just some food for thought, as it's not so black and white. In any case, I respect your good intentions, just encourage you to not write off an entire country. Cheers!
EDIT: FWIW, you might want to look into Samsung and the whole situation with "chaebols" in Korea. I know it's not relevant to the matter of doing what's good for America, but from an ethical standpoint, they are very questionable. They're like the mafia over there.
If a company changed hands and now has Chinese ownership, but continues to operate the same way, produce the same quality goods, and continues to invest in creating local jobs, why would you automatically boycott them over say, American-owned companies that are shipping manufacturing and jobs overseas? Wouldn't continuing to support the American-owned but outsourcing company be hurting our country compared to the Chinese-owned one that employs Americans?
As an example, TSMC is a Taiwanese/Chinese chip-manufacturing giant, but they plan to open a large high-tech fab in the US. Are they automatically bad to you? Tesla receives large subsidies from and is influenced by Chinese interests, but is the only car manufacturer who builds cars for the American market entirely domestically; as opposed to say, GM, which continues to shut down our factories and move manufacturing to Mexico. I don't think buying a GM car is helping America at all, just the fat suits who own GM. It shouldn't matter who owns the company, but rather, how the ownership behaves and runs the company.
Obviously, some foreign companies, especially state-owned ones are bad, and should be avoided. But if you really want to help our country, it's better to think critically about the specific situation, rather than just assuming "China = bad". Just some food for thought, as it's not so black and white. In any case, I respect your good intentions, just encourage you to not write off an entire country. Cheers!
EDIT: FWIW, you might want to look into Samsung and the whole situation with "chaebols" in Korea. I know it's not relevant to the matter of doing what's good for America, but from an ethical standpoint, they are very questionable. They're like the mafia over there.
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