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  • Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
  • CMR recording
  • Helium sealed-drive design
  • Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
  • Supports hot-plugging
  • 256MB cache
  • 2.5 Million hours MTBF
  • 7.2K RPM
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Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
CMR recording
Helium sealed-drive design
Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
Supports hot-plugging
256MB cache
2.5 Million hours MTBF
7.2K RPM

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Last Edited by MWink January 26, 2023 at 01:52 PM
Mine came with outdated firmware (SN03, current version is SN04). You can get the update from Seagate's site by putting in your serial number. The download takes forever because it's close to dial-up speeds. It comes with a cross-platform command-line utility. I booted to a live Linux session to do the update. Instructions are included. Be careful, the commands are case-sensitive.

This drive has TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery) which is usually intended for RAID setups. I think it's probably fine to leave this enabled, even when used on its own. The default timer appears to be 10 seconds. If the drive can't sort things out in that period, I doubt more time is going to make much of a difference. You can disable (or adjust) it with smartmontools (also included with GSmartControl). However, the setting must be reapplied after every power cycle. Here is the command:

smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdX

(Replace sdX with the designation of your drive.)

This drive does not support conventional APM (Advanced Power Management). However, it does have power-saving features. It has multiple modes, including one that parks the heads and another that reduces the spindle speed. These are enabled by default and too aggressive for my tastes. You can use the SeaChest utility to adjust or disable these. Here are the commands for the Windows version:

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -s

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --showEPCSettings

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --EPCfeature disable

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature info

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature disable

Use the first command to determine the "handle" of your drive. For the subsequent commands, replace the "PDx" with your drive's handle. The second and forth commands display the current status of those features. The third and fifth commands disable the respective features. These settings DO appear to persist through power cycles.



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I bought a couple drives from them recently, including this 12TB Seagate Exos X16. The packaging was among the best I've ever seen. The HD was in a sealed anti-static bag, surrounded by bubble wrap, in a box, surrounded by bubble wrap, in another box. The drive was physically immaculate, no dust, scratches, or scuffs. The manufacture date was August 2020. I'm not sure if that's when it was originally manufactured or recertified. After the SMART data had been reset, it had been run just enough to perform one full read scan (which takes close to a day). For those wanting to test the drive, I recommend HDDScan (for Windows). CrystalDiskInfo does not run any diagnostics itself. It merely displays the SMART info from the drive.

The drive works but I have some concerns, as it sometimes seems to take a few tries to calibrate when powering up. The other Exos (an X18) always gets it right on the first try. The drive performs well, with sequential reads/writes around 250MB/s peak. Random 4K reads are about 0.8MB/s, not exactly spectacular. On the other hand, Random 4K writes are over 13MB/s, faster than any other HD I've seen. As far as noise, it seems about the same as the WD/HGST helium drives.

Mine came with outdated firmware. You can get the update from Seagate's site by putting in your serial number. The download takes forever because it's close to dial-up speeds. It comes with a cross-platform command-line utility. I booted to a live Linux session to do the update. Instructions are included. Be careful, the commands are case-sensitive.

This drive has TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery) which is usually intended for RAID setups. I think it's probably fine to leave this enabled, even when used on its own. The default timer appears to be 10 seconds. If the drive can't sort things out in that period, I doubt more time is going to make much of a difference. You can disable (or adjust) it with smartmontools (also included with GSmartControl). However, the setting must be reapplied after every power cycle. Here is the command:

smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdX (Replace sdX with the designation of your drive. Also, this IS case-sensitive.)

This drive does not support conventional APM (Advanced Power Management). However, it does have power-saving features. It has multiple modes, including one that parks the heads and another that reduces the spindle speed. These are enabled by default and too aggressive for my tastes. You can use the SeaChest utility to adjust or disable these. Here are the commands for the Windows version:

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -s

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --showEPCSettings

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --EPCfeature disable

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature info

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature disable

Use the first command to determine the "handle" of your drive. For the subsequent commands, replace the "PDx" with your drive's handle. The second and forth commands display the current status of those features. The third and fifth commands disable the respective features. These settings DO appear to persist through power cycles.

For anyone wondering, the Exos X18 I got from them had a manufacture date less than six months ago. It had 0 power-on hours and obviously had NOT been tested after the SMART data was reset. Its firmware is up to date and I have not noticed any issue with it yet.
Looks like the X18's are $5 more
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In a home scenario, basically none.
x18 is slightly faster, but also uses slightly more power. In a home setting in a NAS, the speed benefit won't be realized in any real world situation.

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01-30-2023 at 06:28 PM.
01-30-2023 at 06:28 PM.
Quote from angusmacgyver22 :
I wouldn't buy this new. This is a brick waiting to happen, I'm telling you!
These drives were released in Aug 2020, so at most, they are 2 year 5 months old. Failure rate at 24 months is 1% according to https://wccftech.com/backblaze-an...onsumers/.
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01-31-2023 at 07:50 AM.
01-31-2023 at 07:50 AM.
Quote from tsulliv1 :
I bought 2 of these to replace 4 tb WD red drives. I would say these are considerably louder then the WD reds. These are downstairs in my living room and I can hear them in my bedroom directly above the living room. I'm not noise sensitive, but I think the noise would bug you if you are.
Mine came in yesterday . It's not loud by any means. I have it in an external USB enclosure right now, sitting on the carpet, and I can't hear it at all. If I pick it up and hold it a foot or two away, I can hear some clicking now and then. The fans in the PC I plan to put it in are louder than this drive.
Hardly what I'd call distracting or annoying.
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01-31-2023 at 07:53 AM.
01-31-2023 at 07:53 AM.
Quote from rodak :
Mine came in yesterday . It's not loud by any means. I have it in an external USB enclosure right now, sitting on the carpet, and I can't hear it at all. If I pick it up and hold it a foot or two away, I can hear some clicking now and then. The fans in the PC I plan to put it in are louder than this drive.
Hardly what I'd call distracting or annoying.

I have 14tb in a workstation, and it isn't loud. The loudest is an old 6TB Ironwolf in the same case.
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01-31-2023 at 11:56 AM.
01-31-2023 at 11:56 AM.
Received mine just a few minutes ago, opened it up and the SATA connector has no plastic only pins showing, hopefully the RMA process isn't too bad.
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goosedude
01-31-2023 at 01:19 PM.
01-31-2023 at 01:19 PM.
Received my Seagate Exos X18 ST12000NM000J 12TB 7.2K RPM SATA today and plugged into my external dock for testing.

I converted the drive to GPT from MBR but my Win10 Pro machine is still only seeing it as 936GB and not 12TB.

I've looked at the drive via multiple programs (Disk Management, AOMEI Partittion assistance, CrystalDisk, and DiskCheckup and all see only 936GB without ability to expand it to 12TB.

Opinions on what's wrong here?? I already have 3+ TB GPT drives on this computer so don't know the issue.

Doing a full wipe data now.....will see if that allows me to see the full drive capacity.
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01-31-2023 at 01:29 PM.
01-31-2023 at 01:29 PM.
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and how do you do this and with what software?
If you're asking about disk self-diagnostics, typically the smartmontools software is used to query SMART info and run both short and full tests. On Windows, you can also use something like HDDScan.

If you're asking about what software is used to clear SMART info, that depends on the drive. For Seagate, you can typically send an N1 command directly over a serial console. You can also use something like SeDiv, WDMarvel, or SHTR.
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01-31-2023 at 05:04 PM.
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Quote from goosedude :
Received my Seagate Exos X18 ST12000NM000J 12TB 7.2K RPM SATA today and plugged into my external dock for testing.

I converted the drive to GPT from MBR but my Win10 Pro machine is still only seeing it as 936GB and not 12TB.

I've looked at the drive via multiple programs (Disk Management, AOMEI Partittion assistance, CrystalDisk, and DiskCheckup and all see only 936GB without ability to expand it to 12TB.

Opinions on what's wrong here?? I already have 3+ TB GPT drives on this computer so don't know the issue.

Doing a full wipe data now.....will see if that allows me to see the full drive capacity.

Your controller inside your dock may not be able to address drives beyond a certain size.
If you have access to a desktop, connect it directly and see if you can format it there.
Your dock >>may<< see it afterwards.
I'd download Seatools and run a short and long test as well while it is connected directly to the computer.
One of my docks can not deal with drives over 8TB, the other one can. Both are old and date back to when docks were a new innovation.
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01-31-2023 at 05:18 PM.
01-31-2023 at 05:18 PM.
Got mine, but it just does not work. Spins up, makes seeking noises over and over and over again until it gives up and just spins. Not recognized on my system at all.

I am sure I can thank UPS for kicking it around....

Contacted their support to see if I can get a replacement.
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01-31-2023 at 06:35 PM.
01-31-2023 at 06:35 PM.
How do you test this hard disk using the Seagate tools if you don't have a computer and only Synology Nas ? Buy an enclosure ?
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01-31-2023 at 06:53 PM.
01-31-2023 at 06:53 PM.
Got two in the mail today, both failed the 'Generic Long' test in SeaTools due to tons of bad sectors... Time to see how they handle a DOA claim, I'll be sure to post updates.
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01-31-2023 at 07:35 PM.
01-31-2023 at 07:35 PM.
Just got my 14TB X18 in. It was sealed, packaged well, and had only 19 hours on it. Passed the short test from seatools.
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01-31-2023 at 08:21 PM.
01-31-2023 at 08:21 PM.
Just an update - I ordered 2 of these and did a Windows-created mirrored array. Moved over a bunch of large files back and forth between the RAID1 array and my 2tb NVMe drive and found both read and write speeds greater than 200MB/s! I'm extremely pleased. Hard to complain about $210 for 10.4 TB usable mirrored (and relatively fast!) storage!
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01-31-2023 at 08:40 PM.
01-31-2023 at 08:40 PM.
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Hm 7200RPM though that has me a little concerned. Back in the day you wanted 7200RPM or even 10k RPM for speed or performance but those days are long past. Theoretically more RPM = more wear and tear on mechanical parts all else being equal. Otherwise this would be an amazing deal and I'd be tempted to pick up 5 of these to toss into our NAS.
focus on the MTBF ratings, NOT what you THINK contributes to lifetime.
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I wouldn't buy this new. This is a brick waiting to happen, I'm telling you!
for your second post ever it would be helpful if you gave some objective reason for your statement rather than just trolling.
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