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Marantz SR5015 7.2-Ch 8K UHD Home Theater A/V Receiver w/ Dolby Atmos & HEOS

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Various Retailers have Marantz SR5015 7.2-Ch 8K UHD Home Theater A/V Receiver w/ Dolby Atmos & HEOS on sale for $999. Shipping is free.

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  • 7-channel amplifier
  • 100 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD, with 2 channels driven
  • Marantz's Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Modules (HDAM) offer exquisite detail and dynamic range while reducing noise
  • Dolby and DTS surround sound decoding
    • Dolby Atmos processing for use with in-ceiling or "height" speakers for more enveloping home theater sound
    • Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization and DTS Virtual:X® create three-dimensional effects without height speakers
  • Analog-to-HDMI video conversion
  • Upscales standard-definition video signals to HD and Ultra HD (up to 8K)
  • Audyssey MultEQ XT auto setup and room calibration system

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Various Retailers have Marantz SR5015 7.2-Ch 8K UHD Home Theater A/V Receiver w/ Dolby Atmos & HEOS on sale for $999. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member LivelyTree321 for finding this deal.

Available:About this product:
  • 7-channel amplifier
  • 100 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD, with 2 channels driven
  • Marantz's Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Modules (HDAM) offer exquisite detail and dynamic range while reducing noise
  • Dolby and DTS surround sound decoding
    • Dolby Atmos processing for use with in-ceiling or "height" speakers for more enveloping home theater sound
    • Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization and DTS Virtual:X® create three-dimensional effects without height speakers
  • Analog-to-HDMI video conversion
  • Upscales standard-definition video signals to HD and Ultra HD (up to 8K)
  • Audyssey MultEQ XT auto setup and room calibration system

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  • Reviews:
    • Rated 4.6 stars out of 5 overall based on 252 reviews on Amazon.
  • About these stores:
    • Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
    • If you're not a student, there's also a free 1-Month Amazon Prime trial available.
    • Amazon Return Policy: Free returns are available for the shipping address you chose. You can return the item for any reason in new and unused condition: no shipping charge

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flight2039down
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Only a single 4k/120hz input.
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I don't have the exact AVR but wanted to share my recent experience with another Marantz - Cinema 50 - which is the slightly upgraded (SR6015 equivalent) 2022 model. I also received Denon X4800H a week ago and was able to compare the 2 side by side. From my non-scientific blind tests, I couldn't tell the difference in both 2-channel music in pure direct as well as movie Atmos soundtracks.

X4800H is supposedly an upgrade (according to the internet though priced the same) but in terms of performance there was no audible difference in critical listening - 24-bit/192kHz/88.2kHz high res 2-channel music and Atmos tracks from RPO / EoT / Dune. I ended up keeping the Denon due to better display but that was it. While Marantz doesn't do well in measurements (here is one for SR7015 [audiosciencereview.com]) due to the distortions they deliberately introduce through HDAM, none of it is audible unless someone has golden ears. I'd expect SR5015 to be sonically as good as Cinema 50 / SR6015 with a little weaker room correction and less channels (Atmos 5.1.2 is sufficient for most living rooms).

BTW, A4L [accessories4less.com] is $100 less with the same 3-yr warranty.
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Great question. To double or triple the price needs justification. Manufacturers realize when someone purchases their top end units, they are also buying higher end speakers installed in larger rooms. Many times the better speakers have lower impedance, and are harder to drive. To reach the same spl in a larger room, they need set at a higher level. So these units have to run with more current, and most likely more channels. The build quality increases with aluminum face plates, larger heat sinks, and higher end, larger transformers and amp outputs. They also will have larger, and higher end capacitors. Not to mention better processors and DACs. You should also have a bit more control over fine tuning your room with a higher end unit. More connection options, and pre outs for an external amplifier. These units will handle heat better, keep distortion lower, and have a better sound floor - one of the most important qualities of a good amp. That silence between notes. Many audiophiles will tell you as you go up the alphabet with amplifiers, you go down in sound quality. And that comes with managing heat. Your better surround receivers will manage heat the best (even class D sub amps get hot), keeping distortion to a minimum. (Tube guys - I hear you, but you still need to stay under 1% even if you're only running at 10 watts).

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Jan 29, 2023 03:17 PM
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gworrelJan 29, 2023 03:17 PM
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Quote from zyphaz :
Hmm, it might be time to upgrade my aging AVR-X4300H finally. It currently only powers a pair of Pioneer up-firing Atmos speakers and some custom rears as my front stage is powered by an Emotiva XPA-3 first-gen (Paradigm Studio 100s, and a 590CC in the front stage).

I've been lucky that my HDMI ports haven't had any of the X4300H issues... but it'd be nice to be able to do 120hz on the C1 vs the 4k60 limitation.
I had the X4300H and bought an X4500H on eBay for $789 back in Oct 2021. Never had any problems with the X4300H. I didn't hear about any HDMI issues.

I then sold the X4300H on eBay for $850. The only reason to upgrade was to get the Auro 3D that would have cost an extra $200 for the X4300H but was included with the X4500H. I have no need for the 120Hz HDMI.

This Marantz would be a step back in most ways compared to the X4300H. It has a lower level Audyssey, and does not support as many channels.
Jan 29, 2023 03:33 PM
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gworrelJan 29, 2023 03:33 PM
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Quote from rexian :
I don't have the exact AVR but wanted to share my recent experience with another Marantz - Cinema 50 - which is the slightly upgraded (SR6015 equivalent) 2022 model. I also received Denon X4800H a week ago and was able to compare the 2 side by side. From my non-scientific blind tests, I couldn't tell the difference in both 2-channel music in pure direct as well as movie Atmos soundtracks.

X4800H is supposedly an upgrade (according to the internet though priced the same) but in terms of performance there was no audible difference in critical listening - 24-bit/192kHz/88.2kHz high res 2-channel music and Atmos tracks from RPO / EoT / Dune. I ended up keeping the Denon due to better display but that was it. While Marantz doesn't do well in measurements (here is one for SR7015 [audiosciencereview.com]) due to the distortions they deliberately introduce through HDAM, none of it is audible unless someone has golden ears. I'd expect SR5015 to be sonically as good as Cinema 50 / SR6015 with a little weaker room correction and less channels (Atmos 5.1.2 is sufficient for most living rooms).

BTW, A4L [accessories4less.com] is $100 less with the same 3-yr warranty.
I don't know why people continue to think that there is an audible difference between any two AVRs if you have room correction and other features turned off. In a blind comparison, the differences disappear. The focus on measurements at ASR only encourages the thinking that measurable differences are audible differences. The vast majority of differences measured at ASR are below the threshold of audibility. Dirac could certainly produce an audible difference worth paying for. Always buy an AVR for features, not sound quality.
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Jan 29, 2023 06:05 PM
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Deals4SviJan 29, 2023 06:05 PM
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I had a fam friends best buy employee discount and replaced a 6012 with an x4700h. I regret it everyday. I don't know what the Denons deal is but HDMI switching absolutely stinks. It wants to go earc every time I flip the tv on instead of my Nvidia shield. And then it gets stuck switching. This happens on both a 65" C8 AND a CX 77". Not sure if I got a buggy Denon hdmi board but I never ever had this prob with my Marantz.
Jan 29, 2023 06:35 PM
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turnneJan 29, 2023 06:35 PM
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Quote from elau.contact :
Did you compare it after Dirac measurements? Apparently that's the killer feature on the newest generation AVR's, the auto eq capability.
I think only the higher end( made in Japan) units have the Dirac option

So the top end Marantz receiver..and pre/pro and the top two Denon avrR'S...6700(?) AND 8500
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Jan 29, 2023 06:37 PM
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turnneJan 29, 2023 06:37 PM
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Quote from gworrel :
I don't know why people continue to think that there is an audible difference between any two AVRs if you have room correction and other features turned off. In a blind comparison, the differences disappear. The focus on measurements at ASR only encourages the thinking that measurable differences are audible differences. The vast majority of differences measured at ASR are below the threshold of audibility. Dirac could certainly produce an audible difference worth paying for. Always buy an AVR for features, not sound quality.
I would disagree somewhat and also say that most will have room correction in play the majority of the time
The other thing that you receive...going upmarket...typically, is a better amp and power supply section
This translates to better build quality
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Jan 29, 2023 06:41 PM
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turnneJan 29, 2023 06:41 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
Good input. had a chance to install & listen to a Cinema 50 yesterday, would have to agree with you(wasn't side by side though).
If people would/could actually do this they would also realize many of these measurements often debated, they would not be able to hear(pick out) the differences either.

I would add if you have XT32, buying the Audyssey's Editor app adds some main benefits of Dirac, many would not miss it especially missing a main feature you pointed out.
I guess myself and others that I know are on the other side of this
There is a clearly better difference in Audyssey versus DIRAC

I have not heard the Marantz/Denon implementation of DIRAC ,clearly

But in other brands that used that feature DIRAC it is a clear upgrade

Anthem's ARC system is also another that is a much better than Audyssey, IMO
Jan 29, 2023 07:04 PM
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MedGeekJan 29, 2023 07:04 PM
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Quote from mako455 :
I just want a new Yamaha to come out that fixes the issue with 4K 120 HDMI 1.2 boards and has pre outs for LR channels. 7.2 channels. 500 bucks.
I have a yamaha tsr-700, 4k 120hz/ 8k @60hz and the board functions exactly as it should with no issues. The earlier production models had the intermittent video issue for which yamaha offered a board replacement. However, the units that were manufactured later are not effected with the bug. It's a 9.2 receiver with LR preouts and was under $500. Seems to check all of your boxes. I am unfortunately am having to sell mine since I'll be moving into an apartment soon Frown

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Jan 29, 2023 08:39 PM
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rexianJan 29, 2023 08:39 PM
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Quote from turnne :
I think only the higher end( made in Japan) units have the Dirac option

So the top end Marantz receiver..and pre/pro and the top two Denon avrR'S...6700(?) AND 8500
Neither 6700 nor 8500 will get Dirac - only mid & highend 2022 models (Marantz Cinema 50/40/AV10 and Denon X3800/4800/A1H) will in March.

Edit: Cinema 50 and X3800 are not Japan made but will have Dirac.
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rexianJan 29, 2023 09:27 PM
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Quote from gworrel :
I don't know why people continue to think that there is an audible difference between any two AVRs if you have room correction and other features turned off. In a blind comparison, the differences disappear. The focus on measurements at ASR only encourages the thinking that measurable differences are audible differences. The vast majority of differences measured at ASR are below the threshold of audibility. Dirac could certainly produce an audible difference worth paying for. Always buy an AVR for features, not sound quality.
While you are correct for most mid-range or better AVRs, that's not necessarily true for every receiver - here [audiosciencereview.com] is an example. Anyone listening loud (or in a large space) with 4-ohm speakers (many decent ones are <8 ohm for <2kHz) that are not very efficient, will need more than 30w/ch. I agree that most will not be able to tell the difference between SINAD 80 vs 90 even in critical listening (in a room, not using headphones) but I'll stay away anything around or below 70@5w. On paper RZ50 is a dream receiver.
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rexianJan 29, 2023 09:35 PM
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Quote from turnne :
I guess myself and others that I know are on the other side of this
There is a clearly better difference in Audyssey versus DIRAC

I have not heard the Marantz/Denon implementation of DIRAC ,clearly

But in other brands that used that feature DIRAC it is a clear upgrade

Anthem's ARC system is also another that is a much better than Audyssey, IMO
I haven't seen any objective review comparing the two but we'll in couple of months now that Denon/Marantz have multiple receivers supporting both. No other brand/model I know of supported both Audyssey XT32 and Dirac Live to allow a direct comparison.
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supermanrobJan 29, 2023 11:12 PM
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Quote from turnne :
I guess myself and others that I know are on the other side of this
There is a clearly better difference in Audyssey versus DIRAC

I have not heard the Marantz/Denon implementation of DIRAC ,clearly

But in other brands that used that feature DIRAC it is a clear upgrade

Anthem's ARC system is also another that is a much better than Audyssey, IMO
Myself and several others that I know that have XT32 and added the Editor app no longer find it worth the money for DIRAC especially since you do not get the full suite(including Pioneer & Onkyo).
How much better is extremely much smaller now with the Editor app in our opinion.

Personally I prefer DIRAC over ARC and BTW the 6700 or 8500 are not DIRAC capable, only certain 2022 models will be.

Come March I'll get a chance to compare them side by side but knowing what the main advantages are I don't expect it to be a big difference.
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Quote from JeffJ9000 :
Marantz av receivers aren't designed for critical listening.
But, they are priced and marketed as though they are meant for Audiophiles and 2-Channel audio.
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Quote from turnne :
I dont think that would be necessary.... to my ears( and about everyone I know) Dirac is a superior system to XT32
Unless you happen to know > 1000 people this remains just an opinion. And, to say a direct comparison is 'not necessary' because you and your friends have already formed an opinion has a whiff (no, full on stench) of arrogance. No truly knowledgeable person would say such a thing.

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Jan 29, 2023 11:38 PM
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turnneJan 29, 2023 11:38 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
Myself and several others that I know that have XT32 and added the Editor app no longer find it worth the money for DIRAC especially since you do not get the full suite(including Pioneer & Onkyo).
How much better is extremely much smaller now with the Editor app in our opinion.

Personally I prefer DIRAC over ARC and BTW the 6700 or 8500 are not DIRAC capable, only certain 2022 models will be.

Come March I'll get a chance to compare them side by side but knowing what the main advantages are I don't expect it to be a big difference.
Myself and the people I know have the opposite opinion

I have not listened to the Pioneer or Onkyo implementation...so I cant speak to that

I have listened to the Arcam and Monolith iterations and it seems, IMO, head and shoulders above XT32

I really have only looked at the Marantz AV10 and dont really know about the other upcoming D&M models that will have Dirac
My thoughts on the Marantz AV10 is that it should have the full suite standard at that price

My thoughts on ARV versus Dirac...both are better than XT32, no question
I would say close, to my ears and I would personally consider the Anthem AV70 as my next piece

I have heard the AV90 is sonically superior...but I have not heard that piece

XT32 has been around for years and long on tooth...However its was arguebly the best that the Asian manufacturers offered until Dirac came to Onkyo/Pioneer
Its inexpensive and you have small room and dont have really incredible expectations it does quite well

I have a Denon X3500, that I bought for $500, years ago and it does well in a home office/casual listening environment that I have with a satellite/sub speaker system
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