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Temtop air quality monitor $20 (CO2, PM2.5, temperature, and humidity)

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Temtop air quality monitors are on sale at Amazon.com. I've been pricing air quality monitors recently. I haven't found a better deal for a name-brand monitor that supports measuring both PM2.5 and CO2.

The P1000 (black) monitor is $20 with free shipping: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DHZ3MFR
CamelCamelCamel shows the price was around $100 last year, and dropped this year to a low of $20

The P20C (white) monitor is $40 with free shipping: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08D94HT83 OOS
CamelCamelCamel shows the price reached a low of $30 late last year, but otherwise was priced from $70 to $140.

P20C vs. P1000

I bought the P20C even though it costs $20 more for the following reasons:
  • It supports exporting data to a computer in CSV format
  • It supports calibrating the CO2 sensor. The P1000 manual doesn't mention this feature.
  • The Temtop website shows sensor accuracy data for this model
  • Faster shipping (for my location at least)

The Temtop website shows specs for each monitor:
I was tempted to get the P1000, because it supports monitoring PM10 particles. However, from what I've read, monitors at this price point have one sensor that is calibrated to measure PM2.5 particles. The PM10 measurement simply multiplies the PM2.5 measurement by some factor. So, the PM2.5 and PM10 measurements usually correlate.

Quote :
Moreover, the relationship among the PM1–PM2.5–PM10 readings obtained with the PMS5003 appeared improbably linear regarding the natural indoor conditions. The correlation of PM concentrations obtained with the PMS5003 suggests an oversimplified calculation method of PM.
Source: https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/24/7290

Other monitors that I considered:

Both are more expensive, and I wanted to invest as little as possible since I don't know how useful monitoring my air will be.

Some reviews of the QingPing indicate bad quality software and hardware. I also don't like how it sends data to a Chinese cloud service. I like how the Temtops keep data local.

The AirGradient looks very nice, but it's relatively expensive and requires more setup.
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Temtop air quality monitors are on sale at Amazon.com. I've been pricing air quality monitors recently. I haven't found a better deal for a name-brand monitor that supports measuring both PM2.5 and CO2.

The P1000 (black) monitor is $20 with free shipping: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DHZ3MFR
CamelCamelCamel shows the price was around $100 last year, and dropped this year to a low of $20

The P20C (white) monitor is $40 with free shipping: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08D94HT83 OOS
CamelCamelCamel shows the price reached a low of $30 late last year, but otherwise was priced from $70 to $140.

P20C vs. P1000

I bought the P20C even though it costs $20 more for the following reasons:
  • It supports exporting data to a computer in CSV format
  • It supports calibrating the CO2 sensor. The P1000 manual doesn't mention this feature.
  • The Temtop website shows sensor accuracy data for this model
  • Faster shipping (for my location at least)

The Temtop website shows specs for each monitor:
I was tempted to get the P1000, because it supports monitoring PM10 particles. However, from what I've read, monitors at this price point have one sensor that is calibrated to measure PM2.5 particles. The PM10 measurement simply multiplies the PM2.5 measurement by some factor. So, the PM2.5 and PM10 measurements usually correlate.

Quote :
Moreover, the relationship among the PM1–PM2.5–PM10 readings obtained with the PMS5003 appeared improbably linear regarding the natural indoor conditions. The correlation of PM concentrations obtained with the PMS5003 suggests an oversimplified calculation method of PM.
Source: https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/24/7290

Other monitors that I considered:

Both are more expensive, and I wanted to invest as little as possible since I don't know how useful monitoring my air will be.

Some reviews of the QingPing indicate bad quality software and hardware. I also don't like how it sends data to a Chinese cloud service. I like how the Temtops keep data local.

The AirGradient looks very nice, but it's relatively expensive and requires more setup.

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Feb 5, 2023
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SammieSocal25
Feb 5, 2023
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Thanks, never thought about buying something like this, why the mixed reviews? Kinda scary
Feb 5, 2023
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duijver
Feb 5, 2023
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The AirGradient looks interesting, but it seems like it may have some issues. Personally, I have supported a few air monitoring platforms and they all kind of stunk.
https://www.kickstarter.com/proje...uality-egg


https://forum.airgradient.com/
Feb 5, 2023
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HapShaughnessy
Feb 5, 2023
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LOTS of red flags flying due to suspicious reviews: https://reviewmeta.com/amazon/B07DHZ3MFR

I'm guessing that's the reason for the price drop. Read the critical reviews for this inaccurate no-name crap: https://www.amazon.com/Temtop-Tem...geNumber=1
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spetsacdc
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Quote from MrSkeptic :
LOTS of red flags flying due to suspicious reviews: https://reviewmeta.com/amazon/B07DHZ3MFR

I'm guessing that's the reason for the price drop. Read the critical reviews for this inaccurate no-name crap: https://www.amazon.com/Temtop-Tem...geNumber=1
I'm not an expert -- I've just researched monitors for a couple of days. However, Temtop seems to be one of the more reputable air quality monitoring brands (https://temtopus.com/pages/about-temtop).

All consumer grade monitors seem to use very similar underlying sensors so I think these models are good value.

It's reassuring that the accuracy of the P20C model's sensors are published:
Quote :
PM2.5 Accuracy: ±10μg/m³(@0-100μg/m³), ±10%(@100-500μg/m³)
CO2 Accuracy: ±40ppm±readings*3%
I couldn't find accuracy info for the P1000, and that was one reason I didn't buy it though it was $20 less.

The following recent article on hacker news has more good information about air quality monitors: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34571885
Feb 5, 2023
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majestros
Feb 5, 2023
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The most recommended one I see is the Aranet4. It seems to be the most accurate, but it is an order of magnitude more expensive.
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I was looking at these today too, but I want one that does radon so I'll probably wait on a good deal for an airthings view plus
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dealstorm
Feb 5, 2023
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I haven't found a better deal for a name-brand monitor...
"Temptop" is a name brand monitor now? I need to get out more, I guess.
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fatwallet22
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Just buy the scd4x gadget from digikey. Everything else is overpriced and/or garbage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34575454
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timur38
Feb 5, 2023
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I have this one for over 3 years and it works great. https://www.co2meter.com/collecti...ty-monitor
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Doghead
Feb 5, 2023
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I got the aranet4 about a week ago and it's been pretty insightful. CO2 was building up to 1000-1300 ppm in my room as I slept every night. I vented the room during the day to lower my CO2 baseline and now I'm sleeping a bit better.

For the price I should probably just order one of these and see how it compares - maybe return the aranet4 if it's good enough.

edit: NVM deal's dead for me already. shows $69 for black.
Last edited by Doghead February 5, 2023 at 02:16 PM.
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TheTomSawyer
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Quote from timur38 :
I have this one for over 3 years and it works great. https://www.co2meter.com/collecti...ty-monitor
Slight price difference than OPs
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iamnothim
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Quote from dealstorm :
"Temptop" is a name brand monitor now? I need to get out more, I guess.
Unless you are an expert on air monitoring tools and know for sure that this one is not a brand name, yes, you need to get out more to get some more oxygen. Looking at your post, it looks like not much oxygen is reaching out to your brain. Even better, you should buy this to measure the air quality wherever you are.
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spetsacdc
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Quote from JonathonJ7402 :
Just buy the scd4x gadget from digikey. Everything else is overpriced and/or garbage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34575454
Thanks for the heads up! I probably would have gone that route, but I wanted to also monitor for particulates (PM2.5 pollution). The SCD4X only monitors CO2.

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spetsacdc
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Quote from dealstorm :
"Temptop" is a name brand monitor now? I need to get out more, I guess.
They aren't a household name like Nike or Dyson. However, they seem to be pretty established in the sector of air quality monitoring.

From their marketing:

Quote :
Temtop has more than 10 years of experience in developing particulate matter sensors,
...
Temtop has over one million users worldwide and has been a reliable choice for many organizations, including the University of Washington, the University of Chicago, and U.S. government agencies.
I can't verify it, but Temtop does seem more reputable than the other monitors. A lot of the other monitors I see on Amazon seem to be rebranded generic sensors from China.

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