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LiquidSmoke420
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So first, what kind of fauna does she want to have? 2.5 - 5 gallons are good for shrimp/snails, small school of endlers, pea puffers, or pygmy cats. Putting a betta in anything smaller than a 10g is cruel, and many will tell you so. Yes, they are sold in small cups, but that is a tactic to help them flair up and color up being next to other males and get them sold. They will live longer and alot happier in a tank they can actually swim around in.

As for the filter, the 3 stages consist of the sponge, the media and the carbon. The carbon is trash after about a month or so depending on what else you may add to the water. Its main job is to clarify the water and remove toxins, but it doesn't have a long life. I personally don't use it in any of my tanks. The media is the life support system. This will allow the beneficial bacteria to grow and thrive in your tank. Lastly, the sponge collects all the debris/detritus, which should be cleaned monthly in small tanks. With a monthly cleaning, the filter will last you plenty. The small pump that they come with needs to be cleaned monthly as well to avoid clogging. They are very easily replaced and affordable if they ever die on you though. I personally stay away from the Aqueon tanks. Their filters are not that great, and they tend to lean on the cartridge base filters, which not only is a waste of money, but it hurts your bacteria load every time you throw one of the cartridges away. The Fluval brand has been solid for me. I personally own the Fluval Flex V, and the Flex 15. Both are very ascetically pleasing, and have a decent build to them. There are also lots of mods you can do to their filtration if you look around on Etsy. As for keeping the tank livable, you just have to make sure you cycle it well (look up nitrogen cycle on YouTube), and test the water before adding any life to it. And when you clean the tank/filter, you clean the media in tank water and not water out of the tap. The chlorine in tap water will kill all your bacteria, and you will have to start all over again. Every time you do water changes, you re-add water conditioner/dechlorinator. At the end of the day, fish are just like every other pet that need to be cared for in order to maintain a healthy, happy life. Here is my 125G Planted Tank. [reddit.com]
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Do yourself and your fish a favor and get at least a 10g aquarium. Bigger = stability

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ChorizoGrandeFeb 10, 2023 12:39 PM
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When in doubt:

https://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.p...ode=simple
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ChorizoGrandeFeb 10, 2023 12:42 PM
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Quote from LiquidSmoke420 :
Dont have to cherry-pick. Im involved in multiple fish keeping groups and attend monthly groups for selling and trading. The consensus with people that actually care for their fish other than buying it for decoration or their child has always been this. Marketing ploys are always going to tell you that these small tanks are fine. They just want you to buy, and when the fish dies, replace! If you witnessed the behavior of your own betta in a small tank vs a larger one, you would understand better. Its like owning a dog and having a yard, vs not. And I would say this for any fish this size, but bettas are the flagship trendy fish to get and put in a small tank due to people believing that they should be able to thrive in small tanks due to them being sold in cups. And since we are on a deal site, with multiple people who are unfamiliar with the hobby, my comment was meant to lead them in a proper direction with good advice. You chose to criticize that.
Nah man, a 5.5g is more than enough for 1 betta if that's the only fish you're keeping in there. More space is definitely better, but a standard 5.5 is more than enough for just 1 betta especially if you have live plants.
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LiquidSmoke420Feb 10, 2023 07:48 PM
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Quote from ChorizoGrande :
Nah man, a 5.5g is more than enough for 1 betta if that's the only fish you're keeping in there. More space is definitely better, but a standard 5.5 is more than enough for just 1 betta especially if you have live plants.
More than enough? LOL. Will it survive in 5g? Sure, but a shortened life span. Will it have room to swim? No. Feel comfortable enough to nest? No. But do what you will. Alot of people dont think about the fact that after you add substrate, decore, rock, wood, plants, you turn 5.5g of water into 3g. By the way, that aqadvisor site was made in the 90's and completely out dated. Just like the 1 inch of fish per gallon rule.
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JRxSFeb 11, 2023 12:43 PM
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Quote from LiquidSmoke420 :
Dont have to cherry-pick. Im involved in multiple fish keeping groups and attend monthly groups for selling and trading. The consensus with people that actually care for their fish other than buying it for decoration or their child has always been this. Marketing ploys are always going to tell you that these small tanks are fine. They just want you to buy, and when the fish dies, replace! If you witnessed the behavior of your own betta in a small tank vs a larger one, you would understand better. Its like owning a dog and having a yard, vs not. And I would say this for any fish this size, but bettas are the flagship trendy fish to get and put in a small tank due to people believing that they should be able to thrive in small tanks due to them being sold in cups. And since we are on a deal site, with multiple people who are unfamiliar with the hobby, my comment was meant to lead them in a proper direction with good advice. You chose to criticize that. Rain
The funny thing is, you say do your research but everything you talk about is anecdotal.
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ChorizoGrandeFeb 11, 2023 01:30 PM
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Quote from LiquidSmoke420 :
More than enough? LOL. Will it survive in 5g? Sure, but a shortened life span. Will it have room to swim? No. Feel comfortable enough to nest? No. But do what you will. Alot of people dont think about the fact that after you add substrate, decore, rock, wood, plants, you turn 5.5g of water into 3g. By the way, that aqadvisor site was made in the 90's and completely out dated. Just like the 1 inch of fish per gallon rule.
.... I breed show bettas. They nest just fine in a 5.5 gallon. They'll nest just about anywhere, even in a mason jar. Shortened life span? I've got a betta on my desk that's 7 years old.
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ChorizoGrandeFeb 11, 2023 01:49 PM
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Quote from LiquidSmoke420 :
More than enough? LOL. Will it survive in 5g? Sure, but a shortened life span. Will it have room to swim? No. Feel comfortable enough to nest? No. But do what you will. Alot of people dont think about the fact that after you add substrate, decore, rock, wood, plants, you turn 5.5g of water into 3g. By the way, that aqadvisor site was made in the 90's and completely out dated. Just like the 1 inch of fish per gallon rule.
Regarding aqavisor, shows how little you know. It's still the standard in fish keeping communities based on the formula they use (oh wait, yea just cause the website looks like the 90s I guess it's useless /s).

Your comments here show how little you know about this species of fish. This is a fish that thrives in stagnant puddles.

Again, please provide some sources for your claims aside from anecdotal "evidence" oh, that's cause you can't. Let me help you out here:

https://www.fishforums.com/search/38624/?q=betta+tank+size&c[searchProfileName]... [fishforums.com]

and from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sia...hting_fish

Despite frequently being displayed and sold in small containers in the pet trade, bettas do best in larger environments; while they can survive in cups, bowls, and other confined spaces, they will be much happier, healthier, and longer-lived in a larger aquarium.[43][44][45] Although some betta enthusiasts claim there is a minimum tank size, determining a strict baseline is somewhat arbitrary and subject to debate.[47] The consensus is that the ideal tank should be no less than 9–19 litres (3–5 US gallons), though a tank of just 4 litres (1 gallon) can also suffice if it is cleaned regularly—at least every other day for small, unfiltered tanks—and maintained at an acceptable temperature of 24–26 °C (75–78 °F).[48]
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UltimateCheapoFeb 11, 2023 11:33 PM
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Unfortunately this hobby is filled with misinformation. People will take pieces of information out of context as gospel, and call subject matter the "consensus" when supporting information is found on message boards filled with MOSTLY the same level novice hobbyists. The truth is there are many ways to keep fish that people are ignorant to (probably because they aren't able to achieve success in that manner). Betta keeping for example has been a way of life in Thailand for MANY generations, and we have noobs with the audacity to diss what has been successful for over a century because they are a moderator at wannabefishexpert.com. Give me a break.
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LiquidSmoke420Feb 12, 2023 12:02 AM
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Quote from ChorizoGrande :
Regarding aqavisor, shows how little you know. It's still the standard in fish keeping communities based on the formula they use (oh wait, yea just cause the website looks like the 90s I guess it's useless /s).

Your comments here show how little you know about this species of fish. This is a fish that thrives in stagnant puddles.

Again, please provide some sources for your claims aside from anecdotal "evidence" oh, that's cause you can't. Let me help you out here:

https://www.fishforums.com/search/38624/?q=betta+tank+size&c[searchProfileName]... [fishforums.com]

and from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sia...hting_fish [wikipedia.org]

Despite frequently being displayed and sold in small containers in the pet trade, bettas do best in larger environments; while they can survive in cups, bowls, and other confined spaces, they will be much happier, healthier, and longer-lived in a larger aquarium.[43][44][45] Although some betta enthusiasts claim there is a minimum tank size, determining a strict baseline is somewhat arbitrary and subject to debate.[47] The consensus is that the ideal tank should be no less than 9–19 litres (3–5 US gallons), though a tank of just 4 litres (1 gallon) can also suffice if it is cleaned regularly—at least every other day for small, unfiltered tanks—and maintained at an acceptable temperature of 24–26 °C (75–78 °F).[48]
I love the idiocracies you are showing, and resulting to insults shows your true character. First sign of someone just trying to bully others for the sake of their own insecurities.

First, my comment wasn't because aquvisor "looks" like its from the 90's, its because thats when this system was first shared and used in the community. But someone like you who knows so much about the hobby should already know that. Also, just like any other system, it became modified to fit better standards, just like the old 1in of fish per gallon rule. Do you still hear people using that rule? He even states that this used to be the normal way, but then failed miserably. So things change! Just because a website that still functions as it used to, does not mean it's up-to-date or current to most people's standards. You do know that ideas and standards do change over the years with experience, right?

And again, since you didn't bother to absorb my last comment regarding their survival in small tanks vs larger, it shows your just interested in arguing. If you want to put your pets in a small depressing home over something better for them to be happy, then go for it, I couldn't care less. My comment that started your attack is that anything less then 10 is cruel. Its been a popular statement by many people within this hobby, and after seeing the behavior of my fish first hand, its easy to agree. Someone that breeds them such as your self should know this.. "while they can survive in cups, bowls, and other confined spaces, they will be much happier, healthier, and longer-lived in a larger aquarium" <- Exactly what I said. My main purpose of my comment was to lead people in the better practices to care for their pet. If you are a fish keeper, why would you hate on that?

https://bettacare101.com/mythvsreality/ Here is some info my betta fish breeders friends swear by. Yes, some of them agree on the 10g thought, others are ok with them living in smaller tanks. Apparently we are not entitled to our opinion though and only yours is the right answer? And I wouldn't hold a Wikipedia link in factual evidence, since those pages can literally be changed by anyone that wants to do so. Ill take my own experiences and people who do the same as my truths. I would expect to get a better conversation and growing this hobby from another fellow fish keeper, instead of an insulted attack.
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LiquidSmoke420Feb 12, 2023 12:53 AM
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Quote from JRxS :
The funny thing is, you say do your research but everything you talk about is anecdotal.
Your opinion may be anecdotal, but its far from the truth. I only comment based on my own experiences/discussions, especially when its all for the greater good of a pet. How about your experiences in the hobby?
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LiquidSmoke420Feb 12, 2023 01:09 AM
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Quote from ChorizoGrande :
.... I breed show bettas. They nest just fine in a 5.5 gallon. They'll nest just about anywhere, even in a mason jar.
Im actually genuinely impressed by this, and think that's really cool. In the spirit of trying to re-direct this to a positive conversation, I would love to see your show bettas. Here are the 2 I currently have.

Rosie in her garden. Red Halfmoon (even though I told my wife its a he) Keep him in my 40 gallon breeder, plant grow out tank.
https://imgur.com/lGZHS4t

And John Snow. - White Dragon Scale (Got him in my 38 gallon bowfront that is mainly a ramhorn snail and cherry shrimp breeding tank.
https://imgur.com/YuxqMOA
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Feb 12, 2023 10:39 PM
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ChorizoGrandeFeb 12, 2023 10:39 PM
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I love the idiocracies you are showing, and resulting to insults shows your true character. First sign of someone just trying to bully others for the sake of their own insecurities.

First, my comment wasn't because aquvisor "looks" like its from the 90's, its because thats when this system was first shared and used in the community. But someone like you who knows so much about the hobby should already know that. Also, just like any other system, it became modified to fit better standards, just like the old 1in of fish per gallon rule. Do you still hear people using that rule? He even states that this used to be the normal way, but then failed miserably. So things change! Just because a website that still functions as it used to, does not mean it's up-to-date or current to most people's standards. You do know that ideas and standards do change over the years with experience, right?

And again, since you didn't bother to absorb my last comment regarding their survival in small tanks vs larger, it shows your just interested in arguing. If you want to put your pets in a small depressing home over something better for them to be happy, then go for it, I couldn't care less. My comment that started your attack is that anything less then 10 is cruel. Its been a popular statement by many people within this hobby, and after seeing the behavior of my fish first hand, its easy to agree. Someone that breeds them such as your self should know this.. "while they can survive in cups, bowls, and other confined spaces, they will be much happier, healthier, and longer-lived in a larger aquarium" <- Exactly what I said. My main purpose of my comment was to lead people in the better practices to care for their pet. If you are a fish keeper, why would you hate on that?

https://bettacare101.com/mythvsreality/ Here is some info my betta fish breeders friends swear by. Yes, some of them agree on the 10g thought, others are ok with them living in smaller tanks. Apparently we are not entitled to our opinion though and only yours is the right answer? And I wouldn't hold a Wikipedia link in factual evidence, since those pages can literally be changed by anyone that wants to do so. Ill take my own experiences and people who do the same as my truths. I would expect to get a better conversation and growing this hobby from another fellow fish keeper, instead of an insulted attack.
TLDR. But checked your source out real quick and it says right there:

Indeed, a slightly larger tank, in the range of 2.5-10g*, may even be beneficial; one of the leading killers of bettas is inadequate physical activity, resulting in fatty liver.
Last edited by ChorizoGrande February 12, 2023 at 02:45 PM.
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PaulL3964Feb 13, 2023 02:22 PM
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I have just bought this. This is my first aquarium. I wonder if the filter pump is supposed to be submerged under water including the electrical wire? I'm kind of scared that the whole electronic compartment goes under water, I'm not sure if I did anything wrong since the manual is not clear.
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Quote from PaulL3964 :
I have just bought this. This is my first aquarium. I wonder if the filter pump is supposed to be submerged under water including the electrical wire? I'm kind of scared that the whole electronic compartment goes under water, I'm not sure if I did anything wrong since the manual is not clear.
Yes this one is submersible. There are ones that aren't and will clearly say so as well.
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PaulL3964Feb 14, 2023 07:19 PM
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Yes this one is submersible. There are ones that aren't and will clearly say so as well.
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When's the next 50% off tank/$1 per gallon sale? How about buy 3 fish, get 1 free? Need to stock up for dwarf shrimp breeding and community tank.

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