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Feb 16, 2023 3:29 PM

2TB Solidigm P41 Plus PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 QLC Internal Solid State Drive

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Newegg has 2TB Solidigm P41 Plus PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive (SSDPFKNU020TZX1) on sale for 109.99 - $10 off when you use promo code SSCPA629 at checkout = $99.99. Shipping is free.

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Product Features:
  • Up to 4,125 MB/s sequential read speeds
  • Form Factor: M.2 2280
  • PCIe Gene 4 x4
  • 3D4 QLC NAND
  • 5-Year Limited Warranty

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Newegg has 2TB Solidigm P41 Plus PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive (SSDPFKNU020TZX1) on sale for 109.99 - $10 off when you use promo code SSCPA629 at checkout = $99.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter tDames for finding this deal.

Product Features:
  • Up to 4,125 MB/s sequential read speeds
  • Form Factor: M.2 2280
  • PCIe Gene 4 x4
  • 3D4 QLC NAND
  • 5-Year Limited Warranty

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Feb 16, 2023 9:23 PM
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ThirstyCruz
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Feb 16, 2023 9:23 PM
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Quote from Timless View quoted comment :
Slc is really expensive. Pretty sure you'd have to go to enterprise level for 2tb.

Mlc is the common one. Endurance isn't an issue if your not running a data center
You'd be hard-pressed to even find SLC. Extremely specialized company in Germany makes them and it costs 1000s
Feb 16, 2023 9:27 PM
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Roy2001Feb 16, 2023 9:27 PM
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Quote from FairNest1755 View quoted comment :
How much more should I expect to pay for an SLC or higher endurance ssd?
The only one for you would be TLC. Those with $180 price tag should be. But who knows, they just change the chips one initial wave gets good reviews.

But, when QLC dies because of endurance which is very very unlikely, just buy a new one.
Feb 16, 2023 9:37 PM
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ClappinCheexFeb 16, 2023 9:37 PM
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I'm assuming no dram?
I also still don't understand when or why you'd want dram over not but does dram matter if it's going to strictly be used to download and play games off of? Thank you!
Feb 16, 2023 9:37 PM
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plflorenceFeb 16, 2023 9:37 PM
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If using this in PS5, do we need to buy a heat sink separately?

Quote from elefante72 View quoted comment :
Apparently that is what it's target market is, just w/ QLC the endurance is mediocre but at 2TB/ $100 why not. I have literally never killed a SSD from overwriting but QLC is definitely way more susceptible to failure than earlier process types. I still have Intel SLC running in my router, that thing is like 10 years old. Speed is good, will work for games. I may pick one up for the kid. Just make sure you keep it cool.
just curious, how do you have games work running in your router? like via a usb and shared the drive on the network or something?
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Feb 16, 2023 9:39 PM
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FairNest1755Feb 16, 2023 9:39 PM
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Quote from Roy2001 View quoted comment :
The only one for you would be TLC. Those with $180 price tag should be. But who knows, they just change the chips one initial wave gets good reviews.

But, when QLC dies because of endurance which is very very unlikely, just buy a new one.
I could be wrong but my concern is the recovery of data off of a ssd that hasn't been backed up is very difficult compared to the old spinning drives.
Feb 16, 2023 9:44 PM
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TimlessFeb 16, 2023 9:44 PM
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Quote from FairNest1755 View quoted comment :
I could be wrong but my concern is the recovery of data off of a ssd that hasn't been backed up is very difficult compared to the old spinning drives.
if the failure is from writing endurance, the drives go into read only mode.

nonetheless if the data is important then it needs regular backups
Feb 16, 2023 9:57 PM
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FairNest1755Feb 16, 2023 9:57 PM
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Quote from Timless View quoted comment :
if the failure is from writing endurance, the drives go into read only mode.

nonetheless if the data is important then it needs regular backups
Good to know and I agree data needs to be backed up but it's always that one time I forgot

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Feb 16, 2023 10:09 PM
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plasboFeb 16, 2023 10:09 PM
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Is this better or worse than Crucial?
Feb 16, 2023 10:18 PM
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plasboFeb 16, 2023 10:18 PM
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I found the answer myself.

Solidigm 2TB P41 Plus Read/Write is slower, but 800Tb Endurance (Total Bytes Written) $100
Crucial 2TB P3 Plus Faster but 400Tb Endurance (Total Bytes Written) $135
WD 2TB WD_Black SN770 Fastest and 1200Tb Endurance (Total Bytes Written) $135

NO reason to buy Crucial...
Feb 16, 2023 10:18 PM
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arny56Feb 16, 2023 10:18 PM
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Quote from plasbo View quoted comment :
Is this better or worse than Crucial?
This is very similar to the Crucial P3 Plus.

Thanks OP, in for one!
Last edited by arny56 February 16, 2023 at 02:44 PM.
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BlueRaccoon1085
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Feb 16, 2023 10:30 PM
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Wonder what prices would be on Black Friday. Maybe $60-80?
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Feb 16, 2023 11:01 PM
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HarshilPFeb 16, 2023 11:01 PM
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Quote from FairNest1755 View quoted comment :
How much more should I expect to pay for an SLC or higher endurance ssd?
Unless you know a specific way you will be subjecting the drive to heavy writes, you absolutely should not worry about this drive's endurance. 800TBW is A LOT of writes. In 8 years my old Intel SSD that was my boot and application drive until last month has only gotten to 36TBW. So it would last me ~160years if endurance were the limiting factor. Realistically capacity and/or a noticeable performance advancement will cause me to toss that as well as this P41 drive well before endurance becomes a factor.

Keep in mind endurance does not correlate to reliability. It is endurance and endurance only which is qualified by the TBW number. Below that number, this drive and a drive with 1600TBW are not going to offer different reliability statistics or promises.
Feb 16, 2023 11:04 PM
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HarshilPFeb 16, 2023 11:04 PM
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Quote from SammyWinchester View quoted comment :
Can we use this drive to build an external portable SSD drive with an enclosure? I'm new and trying to understand/compare this drive to a Sandisk Extreme Pro version. TIA
Yes this drive will be good in an enclosure. The only thing is if you were planning to use it to install applications or something else with a lot of random reads on small files, the lack of DRAM will marginally effect performance in that scenario because HMB does not work over USB. But for typical external drive usage of storing larger files or collections of any size files where you only access specific files at a time rather than run processes that will build a queue of random reads, this will do perfectly.
Feb 16, 2023 11:15 PM
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HarshilPFeb 16, 2023 11:15 PM
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Quote from joverstreet112 View quoted comment :
I'm assuming no dram?
I also still don't understand when or why you'd want dram over not but does dram matter if it's going to strictly be used to download and play games off of? Thank you!
DRAM will not functionally matter for your usage. I have this drive and am using it for storage and games.

It matters mainly for random reads/writes because it can act as a cache for small files and it caches the internal storage table which the drive uses to determine which data is on which part of which NAND chip. Data is typically spread over the different NAND chips to optimize reading and writing speeds by multi threading the operation on both ends so the drive has to keep track of where data is upon writing to the drive and on the other end retrieve that mapping information before it can start the read operation. Host Memory Buffer (HMB) is a standard for gen 3 and gen 4 DRAMless drives that allows them to use a small amount of your system RAM (less than 128mb typically) to hold the mapping information and increase the random read/write speeds. It won't be as fast as the drive being able to read the mapping from built in memory, but it's plenty fast for normal usage. HMB also cannot act as a file cache for reading/writing files but that's not a big difference anyways. Typically the OS itself uses RAM to cache reads and writes from your disks. NVME drives using their internal RAM to again cache the read and writes is just another layer of caching so not having that is really not a meaningful difference.

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Feb 16, 2023 11:49 PM
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c3688tFeb 16, 2023 11:49 PM
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Storage / archival dummy here. I'm under the belief that eventually my SSD data will suffer bit rot due to age / space particles / etc. What I'd like to know is how soon could I see data corruption based on high r/w usage vs very low r/w access. Don't know if SSD and/or controller manufacturers specify raw or uncorrected bit error rates these days. It would be interesting to learn where they are at on average, for better long term planning. I do backups, but they don't necessarily eliminate this issue. One industry friend once told me that the bit error rates were zero. It is hopefully very low, but no way it's zero.

Over the years, I've seen NAND data retention spec'd between1 and 10 years. Anybody know how long your data is good (on average) without being regularly accessed?

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