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Costco Members: 512GB Apple Mac Mini w/ M2 Pro Chip

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Costco Wholesale has for its Members: 512GB Apple Mac Mini w/ M2 Pro Chip (MNH73LL/A) on sale for $1249.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member socalguy9 for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Apple M2 Pro 10-Core Processor (6x high-performance + 4x high-efficiency)
  • 16-Core Integrated GPU
  • 16GB Unified Memory
  • 512GB Integrated NVMe PCIe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E / Bluetooth 5.3
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB Type-A
    • 2x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x Headphone Jack
    • 1x Gigabit Ethernet

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Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Costco Members receive with purchase:
      • 2nd Year Warranty
      • Free Technical Support
      • 90 Day Return Policy
    • This is $50 lower than the next lowest price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $1299.
  • About this Store:
    • If you don't have a Costco Warehouse Membership, you can sign-up here
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Written by socalguy9
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Community Notes
About the Poster
Costco Wholesale has for its Members: 512GB Apple Mac Mini w/ M2 Pro Chip (MNH73LL/A) on sale for $1249.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member socalguy9 for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Apple M2 Pro 10-Core Processor (6x high-performance + 4x high-efficiency)
  • 16-Core Integrated GPU
  • 16GB Unified Memory
  • 512GB Integrated NVMe PCIe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E / Bluetooth 5.3
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB Type-A
    • 2x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x Headphone Jack
    • 1x Gigabit Ethernet

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Costco Members receive with purchase:
      • 2nd Year Warranty
      • Free Technical Support
      • 90 Day Return Policy
    • This is $50 lower than the next lowest price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $1299.
  • About this Store:
    • If you don't have a Costco Warehouse Membership, you can sign-up here
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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mrmochi
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Don't forget, for every smaller iteration drive you get the SSD Speeds get cut in half

(MB/sec)
256GB = 1500
512 = 3000
1TB = 6000

Pretty crummy, borderline criminal of apple to not advertise this little change and give all the youtube reviews early-access to the 1TB knowingly hiding this important fact upon launch.
dclive
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The M2 Mac mini base has 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

The M2 Mac mini Pro base has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

If you have an app that can use those extra cores, the machine could be (for CPU tasks) perhaps 50% faster.

The GPU is 16 cores in the base Pro vs 10 in the normal M2 mini, so it could be 60% faster if you have an app that can use all of those cores.

For most common apps that you as a user use for everyday things, the only thing that matters is single-threaded CPU speed, and at that, the M2 and M2 Pro are exactly the same speed.

I went to the Pro because:
1. It was immediately available
2. It had 2 more TB4 ports
3. I wanted the faster GPU with 60% more GPU cores (for the almost nonexistent MacOS games)
4. The price premium was $330 or so. Not happy, but it is what it is.

The additional 2 cores of CPU didn't really figure into it for me, as I almost never have jobs that overwhelm "even" "just" 4 CPU cores.

For code-compile, multimedia encoding, and some music creation tasks, particularly in Adobe and Apple professional apps, there is a significant gain to be had there. For Chrome, Edge, Safari, Mail, and GarageBand, probably not as much...
Jimmdean
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How much active memory your computer is using, particularly at idle, is not really an indication of anything. You really have to look at how much individual programs and process are using and how it fluctuates with use. It's more than just looking at how much you have used or free. A computer could have nothing free and still be operating perfectly fine with no noticeable slowdown.

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Feb 21, 2023 01:12 AM
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dcliveFeb 21, 2023 01:12 AM
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Quote from mrmochi :
For the file operations I do every week, I can definitely tell.
What do you do that you notice?
Feb 21, 2023 01:12 AM
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JimmdeanFeb 21, 2023 01:12 AM
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Quote from mrmochi :
What Samsung 2TB top shelf Samsung SSD can be had for $200? What read/write speeds?
just use the search bar - take your pick of 2TB PCIe3 Gen 4 SSDs from the top name-brands…
Feb 21, 2023 01:13 AM
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dcliveFeb 21, 2023 01:13 AM
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Quote from mrmochi :
16GB should be the standard if you're a pro user
Why do you say that ?
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Feb 21, 2023 01:16 AM
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JimmdeanFeb 21, 2023 01:16 AM
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Quote from mrmochi :
16GB should be the standard if you're a pro user
according to Apple's definition of "pro" they would seem to agree. but I think a pro should be able to upgrade their own memory so what do I know…
Feb 21, 2023 01:17 AM
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aapocketzFeb 21, 2023 01:17 AM
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Quote from dclive :
What do you do that you notice?
I don't know about them but I read large data files constantly and max throughput is important to me, I would love to have an array that could do about 10GB/s ideally.
Feb 21, 2023 01:17 AM
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dcliveFeb 21, 2023 01:17 AM
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Quote from Jimmdean :
according to Apple's definition of "pro" they would seem to agree
Marketing.
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Feb 21, 2023 01:17 AM
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dcliveFeb 21, 2023 01:17 AM
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Quote from aapocketz :
I don't know about them but I read large data files constantly and max throughput is important to me, I would love to have an array that could do about 10GB/s ideally.
Interesting. Doing what?
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sumthin_gudFeb 21, 2023 01:52 AM
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kind of incredible the entire industry has refused to move past 8gb standard for about 8 years now
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CaleoFeb 21, 2023 02:29 AM
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Quote from CourtC4337 :
How is 16gb on macOS? Can I use it like a 32gb windows machine? Having various apps and service running in the background? Is it more dynamic? I remember reading that at some point in the past. Like smart offloading things at different moments. Or should I expect a similar performance to 16gb with windows?
I've put my 14" Base M1 Pro MBP through its paces - it does remarkably well on 16GB even for more intensive use cases/heavy multitasking. No complaints at all.

Quote from Jimmdean :
according to Apple's definition of "pro" they would seem to agree. but I think a pro should be able to upgrade their own memory so what do I know…
Normally I'd agree with this sentiment, but it'd be impossible to achieve the level of efficiency the M1 platform has with off-the-shelf components like SSD, RAM, etc, and Apple didn't sacrifice performance.

It's wild to have a laptop that can run toe-to-toe with my high end Windows desktop, all while consuming less than 10% of the power, with a 10+ hour battery.
Last edited by Caleo February 20, 2023 at 07:37 PM.
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TowHeadFeb 21, 2023 02:59 AM
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Quote from Jimmdean :
according to Apple's definition of "pro" they would seem to agree. but I think a pro should be able to upgrade their own memory so what do I know…
A lot of people don't understand the the memory is "unified", in other words, it's actually part of the die/core brick. There's no solder, slots, PCB involved between the Core and the RAM so it's simply not upgradeable at all. This is why the M1/M2 is so damned fast, because there's no bus contention, crossing planes to slots via gold contacts, no memory-stretch cycles, and so on - its virtually instantaneous fetch/put relative to the "slow" access required of external DDR RAM sticks.
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BrainDocFeb 21, 2023 03:05 AM
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Quote from mrmochi :
Definitely get the 16GB of RAM for sure. I am a power user but even AT IDLE my computer is using 10GB of RAM and 5.70GB is free. Unbelievable!
I also recommend 16 GB (although most people really are fine with 8 GB in macOS). My MacBook Pro with 32 GB of RAM idles at 14.2 GB of RAM (OneDrive and Dropbox are using 1 GB total just to sit in the background). After a restart I drop down to about 6 - 7 GB but it quickly goes up higher than that. RAM is dynamic. If you have 10 GB used when idle and 16 total available, you'll have plenty for most things you need to do. Most of those background processes will become inactive when the RAM is needed for other things, if you need to use more than what's available.

In macOS what you really can look at is the memory pressure graph. If it's frequently in the orange/red range, you don't have enough RAM for your needs. In that case, you're stuck without selling the computer and buying something with more RAM. If it's mostly green, you are good.

I did some scientific computing test runs on an M1 MacBook Air with 8 GB of RAM and never had major issues. It wasn't ideal for my needs (I'm running a different computer with 32 GB now) but was workable.
Last edited by BrainDoc February 21, 2023 at 08:26 AM.
Feb 21, 2023 03:14 AM
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wolverine88Feb 21, 2023 03:14 AM
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I thought Costco does not have extra warranty anymore?
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JimmdeanFeb 21, 2023 03:40 AM
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Quote from Caleo :
I've put my 14" Base M1 Pro MBP through its paces - it does remarkably well on 16GB even for more intensive use cases/heavy multitasking. No complaints at all.


Normally I'd agree with this sentiment, but it'd be impossible to achieve the level of efficiency the M1 platform has with off-the-shelf components like SSD, RAM, etc, and Apple didn't sacrifice performance.

It's wild to have a laptop that can run toe-to-toe with my high end Windows desktop, all while consuming less than 10% of the power, with a 10+ hour battery.
that's certainly ok for a laptop - desired even. but when it comes to desktops sometimes you just need pure performance. we've yet to see if Apple Silicon is going to offer that. Intel/AMD certainly aren't going to give up.
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socalguy9
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Quote from dclive :
The M2 Mac mini base has 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

The M2 Mac mini Pro base has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores.

If you have an app that can use those extra cores, the machine could be (for CPU tasks) perhaps 50% faster.

The GPU is 16 cores in the base Pro vs 10 in the normal M2 mini, so it could be 60% faster if you have an app that can use all of those cores.

For most common apps that you as a user use for everyday things, the only thing that matters is single-threaded CPU speed, and at that, the M2 and M2 Pro are exactly the same speed.

I went to the Pro because:
1. It was immediately available
2. It had 2 more TB4 ports
3. I wanted the faster GPU with 60% more GPU cores (for the almost nonexistent MacOS games)
4. The price premium was $330 or so. Not happy, but it is what it is.

The additional 2 cores of CPU didn't really figure into it for me, as I almost never have jobs that overwhelm "even" "just" 4 CPU cores.

For code-compile, multimedia encoding, and some music creation tasks, particularly in Adobe and Apple professional apps, there is a significant gain to be had there. For Chrome, Edge, Safari, Mail, and GarageBand, probably not as much...
I am wondering how this would stand in comparison to the M2 Mini regular, upgraded with 24GB RAM. Because of the higher number of performance cores, would you expect the M2 Pro to still be the better choice? Thanks.
(going to be using this mostly for coding as mentioned in the previous post)
Last edited by socalguy9 February 20, 2023 at 08:53 PM.

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