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3-Pack ASUS ZenWiFi AX Mini Mesh WiFi 6 Router System (Wood Pattern; AX1800 XD4) $165 + Free Shipping

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Feb 23, 2023 06:48 PM
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PeteyTheStriker
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Cool little units perfect for most people with internet speeds around 800 mbps or under.
Feb 23, 2023 08:53 PM
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cbpelikanFeb 23, 2023 08:53 PM
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Ok, imma gonna be that guy….
This or the TP-Link AX3000/X55?
Feb 24, 2023 04:51 PM
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ThreshFeb 24, 2023 04:51 PM
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Quote from cbpelikan :
Ok, imma gonna be that guy….
This or the TP-Link AX3000/X55?
Been researching home wifi solutions for days. Obri, Asus, TPlink, Linksys, amazon eero, google brand, even unifi enterprise type stuff. But big caveat, I was looking at the XE75 from tp-link so what I've looked at might not apply directly to the unit you mentioned, but it may.

My biggest issue with TP-link at the moment is their locked down administration and subscription fee for more advanced options for their routers/aps. Currently they force you to make an account through them to be able to access router settings.
They give you VERY basic controls over your wifi and ask you to spend money if you want to access "more advanced" controls (Parental Control, QoS, or Antirivus, etc) . And the basic controls are quite basic, supposedly they dont even let you set different SSIDs for the different 2.4 and 5 ghz bands. So you'll never know which band you're connected to.
Another questionable thing I stumbled upon: there are still reports of tplink routers sending dns queries / metadata to third parties. Think all the reports state it's to Avira, the company that manages their Homeshield Pro subscription service, but some reports of it sending info even when homeshield is disabled. Didn't dig too much further into this, so this could be incorrect/outdated. google "tp link avira xda" for reports.

All that being said, the extremely user friend setup process and cheap prices of tp-link still attract folks.

Personally I want more control over my home network, and I DESPISE the "let's turn everything into a subscription service" business model, so I dont want to support that.
But for $234 for a 6e "mesh" wifi solution (the XE75), it's really hard to look away.

As far as this asus, I'm curious if they've updated aimesh to support 802.11r for fast roaming. My biggest issue with my home network of r7800 nighthawk, with a WAX214 AP is roaming is problematic for my wife's phone, but works ok for mine. I believe it says they support 802.11 k and v which are good, but to my understanding r is the preferred roaming king.
Last edited by Thresh February 24, 2023 at 09:40 PM.
Feb 25, 2023 05:27 AM
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hosserFeb 25, 2023 05:27 AM
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Quote from Thresh :
Been researching home wifi solutions for days. Obri, Asus, TPlink, Linksys, amazon eero, google brand, even unifi enterprise type stuff. But big caveat, I was looking at the XE75 from tp-link so what I've looked at might not apply directly to the unit you mentioned, but it may.

My biggest issue with TP-link at the moment is their locked down administration and subscription fee for more advanced options for their routers/aps. Currently they force you to make an account through them to be able to access router settings.
They give you VERY basic controls over your wifi and ask you to spend money if you want to access "more advanced" controls (Parental Control, QoS, or Antirivus, etc) . And the basic controls are quite basic, supposedly they dont even let you set different SSIDs for the different 2.4 and 5 ghz bands. So you'll never know which band you're connected to.
Another questionable thing I stumbled upon: there are still reports of tplink routers sending dns queries / metadata to third parties. Think all the reports state it's to Avira, the company that manages their Homeshield Pro subscription service, but some reports of it sending info even when homeshield is disabled. Didn't dig too much further into this, so this could be incorrect/outdated. google "tp link avira xda" for reports.

All that being said, the extremely user friend setup process and cheap prices of tp-link still attract folks.

Personally I want more control over my home network, and I DESPISE the "let's turn everything into a subscription service" business model, so I dont want to support that.
But for $234 for a 6e "mesh" wifi solution (the XE75), it's really hard to look away.

As far as this asus, I'm curious if they've updated aimesh to support 802.11r for fast roaming. My biggest issue with my home network of r7800 nighthawk, with a WAX214 AP is roaming is problematic for my wife's phone, but works ok for mine. I believe it says they support 802.11 k and v which are good, but to my understanding r is the preferred roaming king.
I've been using the orbi for about 5 yrs but have not did any research since then when it was in the beginning stages of mesh systems. It's been super reliable (rbk50) so far, but was wondering from your research if you've seen anything better that I could/should upgrade to? I'm on the low end of speed (about 100mbs) so that's not a huge issue but reliability, stability, and security would be my main concerns.
Feb 25, 2023 08:58 AM
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ThreshFeb 25, 2023 08:58 AM
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Quote from hosser :
I've been using the orbi for about 5 yrs but have not did any research since then when it was in the beginning stages of mesh systems. It's been super reliable (rbk50) so far, but was wondering from your research if you've seen anything better that I could/should upgrade to? I'm on the low end of speed (about 100mbs) so that's not a huge issue but reliability, stability, and security would be my main concerns.
Perfectly honest, even with about a straight week of research I'm not sold on any system or brand yet. So many things to weigh and compare. I've learned alot... and nothing at the same time. :o
Feb 25, 2023 09:39 AM
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NeatShop7155Feb 25, 2023 09:39 AM
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WARNING: this is dual band, bad for mesh wifi
Feb 25, 2023 12:47 PM
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hosserFeb 25, 2023 12:47 PM
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Quote from Thresh :
Perfectly honest, even with about a straight week of research I'm not sold on any system or brand yet. So many things to weigh and compare. I've learned alot... and nothing at the same time. :o
Well I'll tell you that I have a 4 acre property and my house is on the one corner and when I mow my yard I'm atleast 400 yards away (at the farthest point) from the closest satellite in my house while I stream music in my ear buds from my phone and I never lose signal. That's why I'm not really wanting to get rid of my orbi. But was wondering if anything is better and just as reliable. I just have the older rbk50 that comes with a router and big satellite. I did add 1 rbk20 wall outlet satellite for fun prob not even needed really.

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Feb 25, 2023 02:55 PM
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muffin30082Feb 25, 2023 02:55 PM
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Quote from Thresh :
Been researching home wifi solutions for days. Obri, Asus, TPlink, Linksys, amazon eero, google brand, even unifi enterprise type stuff. But big caveat, I was looking at the XE75 from tp-link so what I've looked at might not apply directly to the unit you mentioned, but it may.

My biggest issue with TP-link at the moment is their locked down administration and subscription fee for more advanced options for their routers/aps. Currently they force you to make an account through them to be able to access router settings.
They give you VERY basic controls over your wifi and ask you to spend money if you want to access "more advanced" controls (Parental Control, QoS, or Antirivus, etc) . And the basic controls are quite basic, supposedly they dont even let you set different SSIDs for the different 2.4 and 5 ghz bands. So you'll never know which band you're connected to.
Another questionable thing I stumbled upon: there are still reports of tplink routers sending dns queries / metadata to third parties. Think all the reports state it's to Avira, the company that manages their Homeshield Pro subscription service, but some reports of it sending info even when homeshield is disabled. Didn't dig too much further into this, so this could be incorrect/outdated. google "tp link avira xda" for reports.

All that being said, the extremely user friend setup process and cheap prices of tp-link still attract folks.

Personally I want more control over my home network, and I DESPISE the "let's turn everything into a subscription service" business model, so I dont want to support that.
But for $234 for a 6e "mesh" wifi solution (the XE75), it's really hard to look away.

As far as this asus, I'm curious if they've updated aimesh to support 802.11r for fast roaming. My biggest issue with my home network of r7800 nighthawk, with a WAX214 AP is roaming is problematic for my wife's phone, but works ok for mine. I believe it says they support 802.11 k and v which are good, but to my understanding r is the preferred roaming king.
I recently did the same thing, researching many units. I got the x55 and have be satisfied with it. Indeed it does lack all the controls my old netgear nighthawk had. That one also charged extra for AV. I do not need kid controls at this point and the additional controls it offers behind the paywall would be nice but not worth paying for. Many of the brands are trying to do a subscription model, which I will not pay for. No doubt, many will come to see a subscription as normal and I'm guessing the the companies are counting on that. I do like that ASUS is not playing that game,at least as of now. I had a pretty decent deal on the x55 and that's what swayed me.
Feb 25, 2023 05:19 PM
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ThreshFeb 25, 2023 05:19 PM
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Quote from NeatShop7155 :
WARNING: this is dual band, bad for mesh wifi
To my knowledge, dual band can be just fine if you're using Ethernet backhaul. But if you're using wireless backhaul, you're correct, it's going to utilize most/all of the 5ghz band for that and effectively make it a 2.4ghz only AP.
Feb 25, 2023 06:18 PM
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ThreshFeb 25, 2023 06:18 PM
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Quote from hosser :
Well I'll tell you that I have a 4 acre property and my house is on the one corner and when I mow my yard I'm atleast 400 yards away (at the farthest point) from the closest satellite in my house while I stream music in my ear buds from my phone and I never lose signal. That's why I'm not really wanting to get rid of my orbi. But was wondering if anything is better and just as reliable. I just have the older rbk50 that comes with a router and big satellite. I did add 1 rbk20 wall outlet satellite for fun prob not even needed really.
If you have a solid connection and reliable AP roaming that gives you consistent speeds at various points on your property, I think those are the most important parts. Orbis do seem really solid from what I've gathered. I almost pulled the trigger on the 750 series a few days ago. They support 802.11 k, v, and r. So roaming should be some of the best. It's unfortunate that the orbi 750 locks the faster of the 5ghz bands to wireless backhaul even if you are wired and using ethernet backhaul. Also it doesn't support 160 mhz channel which some folks will want for clients to connect at negotiated 1.2gbs speeds.

But as a whole orbi seems like a great system, just a lil pricey.
Feb 25, 2023 06:29 PM
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hosserFeb 25, 2023 06:29 PM
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Quote from Thresh :
If you have a solid connection and reliable AP roaming that gives you consistent speeds at various points on your property, I think those are the most important parts. Orbis do seem really solid from what I've gathered. I almost pulled the trigger on the 750 series a few days ago. They support 802.11 k, v, and r. So roaming should be some of the best. It's unfortunate that the orbi 750 locks the faster of the 5ghz bands to wireless backhaul even if you are wired and using ethernet backhaul. Also it doesn't support 160 mhz channel which some folks will want for clients to connect at negotiated 1.2gbs speeds.

But as a whole orbi seems like a great system, just a lil pricey.
It was $300 for the rbk50 retail. I bought the pack for $175 on eBay at the time open box. You can buy the routers really cheap. The satellite's is where it gets expensive
Feb 26, 2023 05:42 PM
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cbpelikanFeb 26, 2023 05:42 PM
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I ended up going with the TP-Link X55.
20% back on the Amz chase card and code 10DECO gets it down to about $143.

https://www.amazon.com/WiFi-6-Mes...4cc5f50INT
Feb 26, 2023 05:52 PM
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thespacecowboyFeb 26, 2023 05:52 PM
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Quote from Thresh :
Been researching home wifi solutions for days. Obri, Asus, TPlink, Linksys, amazon eero, google brand, even unifi enterprise type stuff. But big caveat, I was looking at the XE75 from tp-link so what I've looked at might not apply directly to the unit you mentioned, but it may.

My biggest issue with TP-link at the moment is their locked down administration and subscription fee for more advanced options for their routers/aps. Currently they force you to make an account through them to be able to access router settings.
Eero is just as bad. I moved over to the Orbi a month ago and at least they have a web page (shocker) to do the site admin. They do have an advanced area which is subscription but that's things like family parental controls which I can get from a different service if needed.
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NoWorkJustMoneyFeb 27, 2023 04:01 PM
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Quote from Thresh :
Been researching home wifi solutions for days. Obri, Asus, TPlink, Linksys, amazon eero, google brand, even unifi enterprise type stuff. But big caveat, I was looking at the XE75 from tp-link so what I've looked at might not apply directly to the unit you mentioned, but it may.

My biggest issue with TP-link at the moment is their locked down administration and subscription fee for more advanced options for their routers/aps. Currently they force you to make an account through them to be able to access router settings.
They give you VERY basic controls over your wifi and ask you to spend money if you want to access "more advanced" controls (Parental Control, QoS, or Antirivus, etc) . And the basic controls are quite basic, supposedly they dont even let you set different SSIDs for the different 2.4 and 5 ghz bands. So you'll never know which band you're connected to.
Another questionable thing I stumbled upon: there are still reports of tplink routers sending dns queries / metadata to third parties. Think all the reports state it's to Avira, the company that manages their Homeshield Pro subscription service, but some reports of it sending info even when homeshield is disabled. Didn't dig too much further into this, so this could be incorrect/outdated. google "tp link avira xda" for reports.

All that being said, the extremely user friend setup process and cheap prices of tp-link still attract folks.

Personally I want more control over my home network, and I DESPISE the "let's turn everything into a subscription service" business model, so I dont want to support that.
But for $234 for a 6e "mesh" wifi solution (the XE75), it's really hard to look away.

As far as this asus, I'm curious if they've updated aimesh to support 802.11r for fast roaming. My biggest issue with my home network of r7800 nighthawk, with a WAX214 AP is roaming is problematic for my wife's phone, but works ok for mine. I believe it says they support 802.11 k and v which are good, but to my understanding r is the preferred roaming king.
Same issue I have with 802.11r and AiMesh. Bought the XD6 and has given nothing but problems. Switching between nodes causes my phone client NordVPN to drop. Not sure if the lack of r was the cause but…
Last year I bought that TCL $25 mesh and was perfect but slow.
XD6 was perfect for me as I have only two nodes which are wired backhaul and 50ft apart. 800 speed with Nord on a 1gig line. Sucks about the dropping issue.
I'm sending them back. Any thoughts on what to get for under $250?

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Feb 28, 2023 03:50 PM
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ThreshFeb 28, 2023 03:50 PM
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Quote from NoWorkJustMoney :
Same issue I have with 802.11r and AiMesh. Bought the XD6 and has given nothing but problems. Switching between nodes causes my phone client NordVPN to drop. Not sure if the lack of r was the cause but…
Last year I bought that TCL $25 mesh and was perfect but slow.
XD6 was perfect for me as I have only two nodes which are wired backhaul and 50ft apart. 800 speed with Nord on a 1gig line. Sucks about the dropping issue.
I'm sending them back. Any thoughts on what to get for under $250?
If you can snag the Orbi rbk752 for $234 or lower (that was a decent sale recently) and only need 2 APs, I'd maybe give that a chance. I missed the sale, so no luck. They have a similar subscription for some options thing as tp link.... but they dont restrict you quite as hard on the basic options. Also don't believe they make you sign in through a account with them to access the router settings. But they have 802.11k,v,and r from what I read, so real interested.
Linksys' Velop mesh system I'm unsure on. I can't find any info on 802.11r with their mesh wifi solutions, but I have seen it mentioned in some of their machines, so it might actually be there. But from alot of reviews I've seen the Velop experience has been a headache. If the MX5300 ever goes down to like $150 a unit it might be worth a try, or something like the MX8000 is $250 atm now, which is high. Seeing previous sale prices in the $180s.
Believe that leaves Ubiquiti Unifi enterprise based solutions. Setting up business wifi is another beast entirely. Believe you can get some great results (watch Linus set it up in his house) but there is often ALOT of troubleshooting. Also it can be more costly. The Unifi 6 lite APs are $99 a piece on sale. But then you either need a PoE switch or to buy PoE injectors. Then you'll want to decide if you want to run a controller on an old computer/laptop that never shuts off, or if you want to buy independent controller hardware. So it can get out of budget quick. But business level wifi generally is very good.
I didnt even know TCL mesh was a thing. Not many options from what I can tell.

I think I've whittled Tplink, eero, nest, asus out of the running for me. But they might work great for others.
Last edited by Thresh February 28, 2023 at 08:52 AM.

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