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FWIW, this watch uses 19 jewels ETA C15.111 automatic movement made specifically for the Tissot line of Swiissmatic watches. This movement is modular, completely machine-assembled (soldered), not adjustable, and non-serviceable i.e. considered disposable if something goes wrong. It is cheap for a reason.
Fair point. The whole mechanical watch thing doesn't do a very good job in standing up to any amount of rational scrutiny. All roads ultimately lead you to "there's a quartz Casio that does everything more accurately, more reliably, with more complications for 50% to 99.9% less money than the watch I'm considering. The only way this watch is superior is in metal finishing and conspicuous consumption". That applies to all the way down to Vostok and Seagull, and all the way up to Richard Mille and other similar house-priced watch brands. Mechanical watches are idiotic. I wish I didn't like them so much.
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FWIW, this watch uses 19 jewels ETA C15.111 automatic movement made specifically for the Tissot line of Swiissmatic watches. This movement is modular, completely machine-assembled (soldered), not adjustable, and non-serviceable i.e. considered disposable if something goes wrong. It is cheap for a reason.
Who would spend 300 to service a 189 watch?
Replacing the $100 movement after many years is the logical thing to do.
Fair point. The whole mechanical watch thing doesn't do a very good job in standing up to any amount of rational scrutiny. All roads ultimately lead you to "there's a quartz Casio that does everything more accurately, more reliably, with more complications for 50% to 99.9% less money than the watch I'm considering. The only way this watch is superior is in metal finishing and conspicuous consumption". That applies to all the way down to Vostok and Seagull, and all the way up to Richard Mille and other similar house-priced watch brands. Mechanical watches are idiotic. I wish I didn't like them so much.
Who would spend 300 to service a 189 watch?
Replacing the $100 movement after many years is the logical thing to do.
Some people like to tinker with their own movements and self service their watches, even their $30 NH35s.
That being said, can you actually get a replacement ETA C15.111 movement? Is it interchangeable with a 2824? I know the C15.111 is based off the weird Sistem51 movement which you are unable to replace due to the movement not being available.
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I've been obsessed with mechanical watches since high school. Many of my classmates wore Rolex, Panerai, and that got me into all kinds of watches, obscure ones, cheap ones, whatever.
I've moved towards quartz because I still love watches, the look, the variety of styles you can get, but mechanical just does not make any rational sense as someone else described above. They're way fussier and require maintenance service over the years, the service costs can buy me 1 or 2 Tissots, or even more (~$1000-1200 for a Rolex service). As someone who isn't "money isn't even real to me" rich, $1200 does mean something to me, and I rly can't justify mechanical watches beyond buying "cheap" $100-300 ones intending to never service them and purely as disposable novelty trinkets essentially.
TLDR bored of mechanical watch hobby, stick to cheap quartzes
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Fair point. The whole mechanical watch thing doesn't do a very good job in standing up to any amount of rational scrutiny. All roads ultimately lead you to "there's a quartz Casio that does everything more accurately, more reliably, with more complications for 50% to 99.9% less money than the watch I'm considering. The only way this watch is superior is in metal finishing and conspicuous consumption". That applies to all the way down to Vostok and Seagull, and all the way up to Richard Mille and other similar house-priced watch brands. Mechanical watches are idiotic. I wish I didn't like them so much.
Oh this guy hasn't met the mechanical/solar Casios… god tier!
I've been obsessed with mechanical watches since high school. Many of my classmates wore Rolex, Panerai, and that got me into all kinds of watches, obscure ones, cheap ones, whatever.
I've moved towards quartz because I still love watches, the look, the variety of styles you can get, but mechanical just does not make any rational sense as someone else described above. They're way fussier and require maintenance service over the years, the service costs can buy me 1 or 2 Tissots, or even more (~$1000-1200 for a Rolex service). As someone who isn't "money isn't even real to me" rich, $1200 does mean something to me, and I rly can't justify mechanical watches beyond buying "cheap" $100-300 ones intending to never service them and purely as disposable novelty trinkets essentially.
TLDR bored of mechanical watch hobby, stick to cheap quartzes
Yeah whatever. I am in the complete opposite camp. I see no reason for quartz to even exist. If you are getting an analog watch, get an automatic because it is an absolute engineering marvel, even a cheap one like this. Otherwise, buy a smartwatch, hybrid smartwatch or digital watch.
You went to a high school where kids wear Rolexes and you are not "money isn't real to me rich" now? What happened?
Fair point. The whole mechanical watch thing doesn't do a very good job in standing up to any amount of rational scrutiny. All roads ultimately lead you to "there's a quartz Casio that does everything more accurately, more reliably, with more complications for 50% to 99.9% less money than the watch I'm considering. The only way this watch is superior is in metal finishing and conspicuous consumption". That applies to all the way down to Vostok and Seagull, and all the way up to Richard Mille and other similar house-priced watch brands. Mechanical watches are idiotic. I wish I didn't like them so much.
That's why I made my casio duro very nice with upgrades, but still buy autos as well. I appreciate the idea of mechanical man made watches. This is a sharp watch, but no service means I am out. I wonder if I could swap the movement.
That's why I made my casio duro very nice with upgrades, but still buy autos as well. I appreciate the idea of mechanical man made watches. This is a sharp watch, but no service means I am out. I wonder if I could swap the movement.
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Replacing the $100 movement after many years is the logical thing to do.
Replacing the $100 movement after many years is the logical thing to do.
Replacing the $100 movement after many years is the logical thing to do.
That being said, can you actually get a replacement ETA C15.111 movement? Is it interchangeable with a 2824? I know the C15.111 is based off the weird Sistem51 movement which you are unable to replace due to the movement not being available.
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I've moved towards quartz because I still love watches, the look, the variety of styles you can get, but mechanical just does not make any rational sense as someone else described above. They're way fussier and require maintenance service over the years, the service costs can buy me 1 or 2 Tissots, or even more (~$1000-1200 for a Rolex service). As someone who isn't "money isn't even real to me" rich, $1200 does mean something to me, and I rly can't justify mechanical watches beyond buying "cheap" $100-300 ones intending to never service them and purely as disposable novelty trinkets essentially.
TLDR bored of mechanical watch hobby, stick to cheap quartzes
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I've moved towards quartz because I still love watches, the look, the variety of styles you can get, but mechanical just does not make any rational sense as someone else described above. They're way fussier and require maintenance service over the years, the service costs can buy me 1 or 2 Tissots, or even more (~$1000-1200 for a Rolex service). As someone who isn't "money isn't even real to me" rich, $1200 does mean something to me, and I rly can't justify mechanical watches beyond buying "cheap" $100-300 ones intending to never service them and purely as disposable novelty trinkets essentially.
TLDR bored of mechanical watch hobby, stick to cheap quartzes
You went to a high school where kids wear Rolexes and you are not "money isn't real to me rich" now? What happened?
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