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Have had this laptop for a good bit now and love it. The 6700m and 5800h can handle the vast majority of games I throw at it but the best part is how light and thin it is. I don't use this as my daily gaming machine (desktop with a 3700x and rtx3080) so this is mainly a travel gaming machine. I do like how they went minimalistic on the looks of it, so it looks very sleek and like a normal professional laptop and doesn't scream RGB LOOK AT ME I AM A GAMING MACHINE
I will say a major downside to this computer is upgradability. Not to say you can't upgrade things like RAM and add additional nvme storage, but the motherboard is mounted upside down (part of the cooling configuration) so you have to fully remove the motherboard to upgrade which is more challenging
In-between a 3060 and a 3070. It is hard to compare to Nvidia because 3060 and 3070 don't mean anything when they can cap the tdp on them which knee caps the gpu
for example the 3060 can have 60,65,70,80,85,90,95,100,105,110 and 115w caps which effects how that device will function. 3070 laptops are also all over the place with some at 85 watts (Acer nitro 5), 90, 95, 100,105,110,115,125,130, 140 and apparently some 145watt units. comparing a 90 watt and a 140 watt 3070 would give you vastly different results, now trying to compare that to an AMD 6700m and... well .. you get the picture
One of the ways they managed the weight and more efficient cooling is that the entire body of the laptop is aluminum, not plastic. So the entire laptop body helps dissipate the heat. I haven't used this for serious amounts of time for gaming so not sure what the thermal throttling looks like but the benefit of it being an AMD advantage machine (AMD gpu and cpu) is the CPU and GPU are constantly adjusting their tdp relative to each other, so the CPU can throttle down if a game isn't CPU heavy and the tdp headroom can go to the gpu. They call this smartshift technology.
This laptop fulfilled 3 things I needed in a new "gaming laptop". minimalistic appearance so can still be used as a professional laptop in an office setting easily. thin and light... and full size keyboard, not the stupid small keyboard with the useless (to me) number pad on the right side.
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Have had this laptop for a good bit now and love it. The 6700m and 5800h can handle the vast majority of games I throw at it but the best part is how light and thin it is. I don't use this as my daily gaming machine (desktop with a 3700x and rtx3080) so this is mainly a travel gaming machine. I do like how they went minimalistic on the looks of it, so it looks very sleek and like a normal professional laptop and doesn't scream RGB LOOK AT ME I AM A GAMING MACHINE
I will say a major downside to this computer is upgradability. Not to say you can't upgrade things like RAM and add additional nvme storage, but the motherboard is mounted upside down (part of the cooling configuration) so you have to fully remove the motherboard to upgrade which is more challenging
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Is it a deal? CPU bit behind latest gen, and GPU is about a 3060 right?
In-between a 3060 and a 3070. It is hard to compare to Nvidia because 3060 and 3070 don't mean anything when they can cap the tdp on them which knee caps the gpu
for example the 3060 can have 60,65,70,80,85,90,95,100,105,110 and 115w caps which effects how that device will function. 3070 laptops are also all over the place with some at 85 watts (Acer nitro 5), 90, 95, 100,105,110,115,125,130, 140 and apparently some 145watt units. comparing a 90 watt and a 140 watt 3070 would give you vastly different results, now trying to compare that to an AMD 6700m and... well .. you get the picture
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Interesting, good resource! He compared this exact laptop w/ 6700m vs a fully powered (125w) RTX 3070 laptop. 9.54% in favor of RTX 3070 at 1080p and 13.88% in favor of RTX 3070 at 1440p.
Since this specific laptop is fairly thin and light and doesn't use the full 135W power limit, it appears that a fully powered 6700m vs 3070 mobile would be closer. I'd also note that he includes several NVIDIA favored/sponsored titles in his test suite (Control, Metro Exodus, Fortnite).
If considering similarly priced RTX 3060 laptops vs this, I'd choose this since the RTX 3060 mobile has weaker performance and is limited to 6GB of VRAM which doesn't cut it in many demanding new games, even at 1080p. 8GB of VRAM for 1080p and 10-12GB of VRAM for 1440p seems to be the sweet spot for new releases.
In case it helps, here's a 45 game benchmark for the desktop counterparts since we don't have many good mobile benchmarks available (and mobile benchmarks are notoriously difficult to do properly). https://www.techspot.com/review/2...n-6700-xt/
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In-between a 3060 and a 3070. It is hard to compare to Nvidia because 3060 and 3070 don't mean anything when they can cap the tdp on them which knee caps the gpu
for example the 3060 can have 60,65,70,80,85,90,95,100,105,110 and 115w caps which effects how that device will function. 3070 laptops are also all over the place with some at 85 watts (Acer nitro 5), 90, 95, 100,105,110,115,125,130, 140 and apparently some 145watt units. comparing a 90 watt and a 140 watt 3070 would give you vastly different results, now trying to compare that to an AMD 6700m and... well .. you get the picture
How are the thermals/cooling? I'm impressed they crammed all of this into an affordable, thin 4.19 lb laptop but a little concerned about how thermals would be while gaming.
Even my work laptops for engineering have been over 5 lbs and don't even have a discrete GPU lol.
How are the thermals/cooling? I'm impressed they crammed all of this into an affordable, thin 4.19 lb laptop but a little concerned about how thermals would be while gaming.
Even my work laptops for engineering have been over 5 lbs and don't even have a discrete GPU lol.
One of the ways they managed the weight and more efficient cooling is that the entire body of the laptop is aluminum, not plastic. So the entire laptop body helps dissipate the heat. I haven't used this for serious amounts of time for gaming so not sure what the thermal throttling looks like but the benefit of it being an AMD advantage machine (AMD gpu and cpu) is the CPU and GPU are constantly adjusting their tdp relative to each other, so the CPU can throttle down if a game isn't CPU heavy and the tdp headroom can go to the gpu. They call this smartshift technology.
This laptop fulfilled 3 things I needed in a new "gaming laptop". minimalistic appearance so can still be used as a professional laptop in an office setting easily. thin and light... and full size keyboard, not the stupid small keyboard with the useless (to me) number pad on the right side.
Last edited by Numus19 February 28, 2023 at 06:29 AM.
Went ahead and bought one. Even if it's not cutting-edge specs, for the price I've not seen much better and I like the form factor. Too many gaming laptop deals lately still have 8 gb ram or 256/512gb storage. So by the time you pay for more ram or bigger storage you end up paying quite a bit more than this price. Thanks OP.
The price is right for this one. I got this for $1099 last year. My only gripe is the fans kicking on while charging or using secondary display doing light tasks.
The price is right for this one. I got this for $1099 last year. My only gripe is the fans kicking on while charging or using secondary display doing light tasks.
If you have your power profile set to use the dGPU when plugged in (high performance mode I believe) then the fans will kick on anytime you do anything that uses the dGPU to keep it nice and cool. Secondary display bypasses the iGPU and connects directly to the dGPU (both USB c and HDMI). This laptop doesn't have a mux switch
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If you have your power profile set to use the dGPU when plugged in (high performance mode I believe) then the fans will kick on anytime you do anything that uses the dGPU to keep it nice and cool. Secondary display bypasses the iGPU and connects directly to the dGPU
Nice tip, thanks. My last gaming laptop didn't have an integrated GPU, so even web browsing used a ton of power. I'm guessing this one you if you switch to iGPU you get much better battery life?
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Nice tip, thanks. My last gaming laptop didn't have an integrated GPU, so even web browsing used a ton of power. I'm guessing this one you if you switch to iGPU you get much better battery life?
Ya the laptop will automatically switch between the igpu and dGPU in most cases (unless you have a second monitor) but there is no real reason to use the igpu when plugged in (except fan noise and you can tune that a bit). When using the laptop in battery mode it will usually use the igpu to save battery life when it can
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I will say a major downside to this computer is upgradability. Not to say you can't upgrade things like RAM and add additional nvme storage, but the motherboard is mounted upside down (part of the cooling configuration) so you have to fully remove the motherboard to upgrade which is more challenging
for example the 3060 can have 60,65,70,80,85,90,95,100,105,110 and 115w caps which effects how that device will function. 3070 laptops are also all over the place with some at 85 watts (Acer nitro 5), 90, 95, 100,105,110,115,125,130, 140 and apparently some 145watt units. comparing a 90 watt and a 140 watt 3070 would give you vastly different results, now trying to compare that to an AMD 6700m and... well .. you get the picture
This laptop fulfilled 3 things I needed in a new "gaming laptop". minimalistic appearance so can still be used as a professional laptop in an office setting easily. thin and light... and full size keyboard, not the stupid small keyboard with the useless (to me) number pad on the right side.
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I will say a major downside to this computer is upgradability. Not to say you can't upgrade things like RAM and add additional nvme storage, but the motherboard is mounted upside down (part of the cooling configuration) so you have to fully remove the motherboard to upgrade which is more challenging
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for example the 3060 can have 60,65,70,80,85,90,95,100,105,110 and 115w caps which effects how that device will function. 3070 laptops are also all over the place with some at 85 watts (Acer nitro 5), 90, 95, 100,105,110,115,125,130, 140 and apparently some 145watt units. comparing a 90 watt and a 140 watt 3070 would give you vastly different results, now trying to compare that to an AMD 6700m and... well .. you get the picture
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Since this specific laptop is fairly thin and light and doesn't use the full 135W power limit, it appears that a fully powered 6700m vs 3070 mobile would be closer. I'd also note that he includes several NVIDIA favored/sponsored titles in his test suite (Control, Metro Exodus, Fortnite).
If considering similarly priced RTX 3060 laptops vs this, I'd choose this since the RTX 3060 mobile has weaker performance and is limited to 6GB of VRAM which doesn't cut it in many demanding new games, even at 1080p. 8GB of VRAM for 1080p and 10-12GB of VRAM for 1440p seems to be the sweet spot for new releases.
In case it helps, here's a 45 game benchmark for the desktop counterparts since we don't have many good mobile benchmarks available (and mobile benchmarks are notoriously difficult to do properly). https://www.techspot.co
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for example the 3060 can have 60,65,70,80,85,90,95,100,105,110 and 115w caps which effects how that device will function. 3070 laptops are also all over the place with some at 85 watts (Acer nitro 5), 90, 95, 100,105,110,115,125,130, 140 and apparently some 145watt units. comparing a 90 watt and a 140 watt 3070 would give you vastly different results, now trying to compare that to an AMD 6700m and... well .. you get the picture
Even my work laptops for engineering have been over 5 lbs and don't even have a discrete GPU lol.
Even my work laptops for engineering have been over 5 lbs and don't even have a discrete GPU lol.
This laptop fulfilled 3 things I needed in a new "gaming laptop". minimalistic appearance so can still be used as a professional laptop in an office setting easily. thin and light... and full size keyboard, not the stupid small keyboard with the useless (to me) number pad on the right side.
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