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It's nice and light, but it will throttle. It can't reach the turbo frequencies without overheating. The internal graphics performance is pretty poor too, so don't expect much. It does work well for basic tasks, so if you just want a light PC for tasks that don't require a GPU, it's a good PC.
Costco price is $100 less than this; 699 in the coupon booklet. Starts next week.
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Yep with Intel 13th Gen out and the Outstanding AMD 7000 series poised to destroy both the Intel 12 and 13th Gen CPUs on performance and sipping less power everything else should drop drastically to remain viable.
The issue is, when are you going to actually find a 7000 series laptop?
The issue is, when are you going to actually find a 7000 series laptop?
The first ones are coming in a few weeks in April. Previews look very promising. Intel has been able to keep up with AMD by using unlimited power for that few % edge over Zen 4. That might work on the desktop but definitely not on laptops. Burning that kind of power in a small confined laptop space is a recipe for disaster.
The issue is, when are you going to actually find a 7000 series laptop?
When you say Ryzen 7000, be careful. AMD weird naming convention means that similar sounding 7000 series could be Zen 2, Zen 3, or Zen 4. My biggest hope is the there is more production of the successor to the Ryzen 6800U, which is a great chip (680M igpu) but was very hard to find.
The first ones are coming in a few weeks in April. Previews look very promising. Intel has been able to keep up with AMD by using unlimited power for that few % edge over Zen 4. That might work on the desktop but definitely not on laptops. Burning that kind of power in a small confined laptop space is a recipe for disaster.
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When you say Ryzen 7000, be careful. AMD weird naming convention means that similar sounding 7000 series could be Zen 2, Zen 3, or Zen 4. My biggest hope is the there is more production of the successor to the Ryzen 6800U, which is a great chip (680M igpu) but was very hard to find.
See that's my issue. AMD has been rebranding some of their mobile CPUs and lord knows how hard it was to find decent 6800H or U laptops. Who is to say that you can find 7xxx laptops easily? I got my 6800H Zenbook Flip in late November which was 3 quarters later than when 6xxx were released
You need to set the fan speed to performance in the LG settings and this thing flies, you will get at least 2x - 3x the performance than the default settings. I see this overlooked by basically every reviewer and user online. You'd be suprised at what games you could run and emulate.
I tried that too and tried the performance power plan as well. The Intel Iris integrated graphics just aren't capable of running many games on settings higher than low. At low you get maybe 30 FPS average. If you're playing rimworld or other 2D games youll be fine, but first person games are rough. If you use HWinfo you can see the clock speeds are throttled to base clock speeds when turbo is off. With turbo on, its a little better, alot hotter, and thermal throttles, you can see the thermal throttling take place live in HWinfo. Most of the benchmarks wont even run properly on GPU tests like 3D mark.
Before you buy an LG Gram, I suggest you see it and play around with it in real life. I love the light weight but it comes at a cost. Since it uses magnesium alloy instead of aluminum, there's quite a bit of screen flex. If no one told you otherwise you would think it is made of plastic and not metal alloy. It still is durable but it doesn't have that premium feel. For some people, it's fine, for others, it is not fine considering how much they paid.
In contrast, Samsung manages to be able to make a light weight laptop and still use aluminum with no body or screen flex. I feel in absolute love with the new book3 pro 14" even though it does not have touchscreen (this lg doesn't either). Of course Samsung have their issues too.
When you say Ryzen 7000, be careful. AMD weird naming convention means that similar sounding 7000 series could be Zen 2, Zen 3, or Zen 4. My biggest hope is the there is more production of the successor to the Ryzen 6800U, which is a great chip (680M igpu) but was very hard to find.
now that AMD has caught up theyre pulling even bigger bullshit than Intel. at least when intel mixed 10th gen arch they made the old skylake 5 digits and ice lake 4 digits while AMD's method is way more confusing
Back in Dec I bought both the Costco and regular versions at the same prices being discussed here and ended up keeping the regular one (though part of it was I had intended to return both, since I didn't /really/ need these machines, but the BuyDig rep offered like a ~10% partial refund, which I took them up on). Aside from the DDR4 vs DDR5 RAM, there are a few other small differences.
The keyboard legends &c seem to be from last year's model. These look more ostentatious and I don't particularly like it, but is not a very big deal.
The power button has a fingerprint sensor built-in to it, again like last year's model. It worked alright, but be sure to try to register same finger a few times. The flipside of the inclusion of the fingerprint sensor, meanwhile, is
Webcam is only 720p and significantly worse than the one that comes with the regular model, which also has a wider field of view. It also has an IR camera and Windows Hello facial recognition, though you really need to be the exact distance away it expects and can't be too poorly-lit, or it won't work.
Some of the drivers (specifically, the VGA driver, I don't quite remember about the other ones) and firmware on the Costco-specific model are actually newer than have been released for the regular one.
BuyDig's stuff, if you were buying it a couple of months ago, like I did, had been sitting on a shelf for a few months so there was some wear on the battery by the time I actually got to use it (like 3-4%). My guess is this time around this is a restock though.
I ran performancetest and actually managed to get higher scores with the Costco model despite the slower RAM, so it may be that its' cooling solution is more robust somehow?
At the end I'm pretty happy with the model I ended up keeping and which I've been using for the past few months. Specifically I really appreciate the world's-better webcam on the regular model, but they're both decent and very similar machines.
14ZB90Q(costco) $715 vs 14Z90Q(regular buydig) $785 - worth the $70 difference!?!
Before you buy an LG Gram, I suggest you see it and play around with it in real life. I love the light weight but it comes at a cost. Since it uses magnesium alloy instead of aluminum, there's quite a bit of screen flex. If no one told you otherwise you would think it is made of plastic and not metal alloy. It still is durable but it doesn't have that premium feel. For some people, it's fine, for others, it is not fine considering how much they paid.
In contrast, Samsung manages to be able to make a light weight laptop and still use aluminum with no body or screen flex. I feel in absolute love with the new book3 pro 14" even though it does not have touchscreen (this lg doesn't either). Of course Samsung have their issues too.
What issues did you have with the Samsung. I'm trying to decide between the 14" gram and 13" book2 (i'd wait until I can catch that for 600). Which would you pick?
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Correction. $699 at Costco starting March 8.
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Bigger numbers aren't always better. There's more downsides than benefits to 4k on a 14 inch screen.
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The first ones are coming in a few weeks in April. Previews look very promising. Intel has been able to keep up with AMD by using unlimited power for that few % edge over Zen 4. That might work on the desktop but definitely not on laptops. Burning that kind of power in a small confined laptop space is a recipe for disaster.
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In contrast, Samsung manages to be able to make a light weight laptop and still use aluminum with no body or screen flex. I feel in absolute love with the new book3 pro 14" even though it does not have touchscreen (this lg doesn't either). Of course Samsung have their issues too.
- The keyboard legends &c seem to be from last year's model. These look more ostentatious and I don't particularly like it, but is not a very big deal.
- The power button has a fingerprint sensor built-in to it, again like last year's model. It worked alright, but be sure to try to register same finger a few times. The flipside of the inclusion of the fingerprint sensor, meanwhile, is
- Webcam is only 720p and significantly worse than the one that comes with the regular model, which also has a wider field of view. It also has an IR camera and Windows Hello facial recognition, though you really need to be the exact distance away it expects and can't be too poorly-lit, or it won't work.
- Some of the drivers (specifically, the VGA driver, I don't quite remember about the other ones) and firmware on the Costco-specific model are actually newer than have been released for the regular one.
- BuyDig's stuff, if you were buying it a couple of months ago, like I did, had been sitting on a shelf for a few months so there was some wear on the battery by the time I actually got to use it (like 3-4%). My guess is this time around this is a restock though.
- I ran performancetest and actually managed to get higher scores with the Costco model despite the slower RAM, so it may be that its' cooling solution is more robust somehow?
At the end I'm pretty happy with the model I ended up keeping and which I've been using for the past few months. Specifically I really appreciate the world's-better webcam on the regular model, but they're both decent and very similar machines.Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.
In contrast, Samsung manages to be able to make a light weight laptop and still use aluminum with no body or screen flex. I feel in absolute love with the new book3 pro 14" even though it does not have touchscreen (this lg doesn't either). Of course Samsung have their issues too.