Sam's Club has for its
Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for
$5499.
Shipping is free.
Thanks to community member
tunabreath for finding this deal.
Product Details:
- Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
- Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
- 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
- Alexa Smart Home Compatible
- True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
- Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)
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Like an A/C heat pump it needs a concrete or composite concrete pad to sit on. You will likely need an electrician to connect it to your house and you may need to coordinate with your electric company for certain aspects of the installation like the auto transfer. Unless you have natural gas and get the conversion (I think a conversion is possible) you will also need a large propane tank installed (capacity of 100 to 250 gallons) by a propane company and coordinate with them for filling when needed/ahead of storms, etc. The tank is pretty big and needs to be within so many feet of the generator. These require annual maintenance that you may be able to do yourself or it's around $100 to $150 to have Generac do it. The 10 year warranty seems nice but 10 years of annual maintenance would be better. Finally these generators are big and heavy. I don't think you will be able to move it in place with a dolly.
I had a quote for purchase and install from a Generac dealer and installation was 30% or more of the quote. I never went through with it because installation seemed to be where they were gouging. The coordination with your power company should be free or minimal. Obviously electricians vary by area. I think the dealer had me coordinate with the propane company for install of the tank. I know Lowes sells Generacs. I would be interested in how much they charge for installation.
At the time generators we're on backorder for 6 months or more. Sounds like they've gotten ahead of the supply issues now.
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https://norwall.com/power-expert/...s%20rating.
As a rule, the transfer switch current rating in amps must meet or exceed the main breaker rating in amps. A 200-Amp ATS can work with any panel rated at 200 amps or less, which includes 100-Amp and 150 Amps panels. However, the reverse is not true. A 100-amp transfer switch cannot work with 200-amp or 150-amp panel.
Can I use a 200 amp transfer switch on a 100 amp service?
I guess what I'm asking is does the 200 amp breaker in the ATS become the main and therefore I would have to run 4/0 AL to a 100 amp panel? Which becomes a sub panel.
Some guys are telling me no, that it is just a switch not actually the main and the service size stays #2 cause both the generator and the panel are 100 amp.
The generator was package bought with the transfer 200 came with 16kw generac.
Please advise.
Thanks, Not Sure
I did the same thing at my house. Inspector allowed it since the conductors are protected by the 100 amp breaker in the electrical panel. The 200 amp breaker in the transfer switch is just used as a disco.
https://conqelectric.co
You can use a 200A open transitional switch, hell, you can use a 1000A open transitional switch on a 100A main panel as long as it is fed by a 100A main disconnect and properly sized wire, however you CANNOT use a service rated x-fer switch larger than your main panel's breaker. The breaker protects the wire, the wire has to be sized to the circuit protection ampacity of the breaker. Let me know how fitting your 4/0 SER cable into that 100A panel works out.. After your first means of disconnect you have to split your neutrals and grounds as well, so you have to run SER, not SE cable..
I'm sure I can also find a review online that states you don't even need a service rated switch in between a meter and a main panel. Maybe you should go that route and save some money, after all, someone on the internet said it was fine to do!
Every year I spend $500 for a company to service the generator (air filter, oil change, oil filter) and be on 24/7 standby for emergency repairs.
Every three or four years I spend around $800 for major service (battery, lube points, coolant flush, clean out) by that company.
Owning a whole-house generator is just like owning another car. In fact my generator has a Mitsubishi 4-cylinder car engine inside it that is converted to LP. Note that using natural gas on an LP engine will require even more modifications and expense.
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It's a first world problem, but when the power does go out it takes about 10-15 seconds to kick on. It's not instantaneous like they make it sound. All of your electronics will reset
As for the 20 second delay, I bought UPS devices for all the important electronics.
Life ProTip: Put your cable modem/internet router and WiFi devices on a UPS and you will enjoy uninterrupted internet. My FiOS internet router (and my older cable modem) takes up to five minutes to come back online so having a UPS is essential even with a whole-house generator.
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Every year I spend $500 for a company to service the generator (air filter, oil change, oil filter) and be on 24/7 standby for emergency repairs.
Every three or four years I spend around $800 for major service (battery, lube points, coolant flush, clean out) by that company.
Owning a whole-house generator is just like owning another car. In fact my generator has a Mitsubishi 4-cylinder car engine inside it that is converted to LP. Note that using natural gas on an LP engine will require even more modifications and expense.
Let me know what lube points you find on that genset. lol You're getting bent over. Coolant flush is max $46, and that is because those old mitsu have goofy radiators that require the expensive coolant. Your unit takes a group 26 top post battery that costs $89 with a core.
You should really shop around or learn to maintain your unit, and with the $2,000 in savings every 4 years you will be able to pay for any emergency service you might need.
Annual maintenance from a legit Generac dealer on your unit should be around $215-$220, and the "big" maintenance that has a coolant flush and plug swap, should be around $365. This is figuring in $85/hr for the tech to be there, all parts with a 100% markup, and a guess of .5 hours drive time since I'm sure that dealer has many maintenances in the same area as yours on that day.
I have a 5k watt generator that will power my house with the essentials that I spent about $500 for "all in" including so electrical work. Not the best and or the safest but in a real emergency I will have the essentials.
I also have a small sub 1000 watt solar setup with 2 deep cycle RV batteries and a 2k watt inverter, i have about a $1000 into that system.
Our regular PV system is great but it's a no-go when the power goes out (like most of them) .
Let me know what lube points you find on that genset. lol You're getting bent over. Coolant flush is max $46, and that is because those old mitsu have goofy radiators that require the expensive coolant. Your unit takes a group 26 top post battery that costs $89 with a core.
You should really shop around or learn to maintain your unit, and with the $2,000 in savings every 4 years you will be able to pay for any emergency service you might need.
Annual maintenance from a legit Generac dealer on your unit should be around $215-$220, and the "big" maintenance that has a coolant flush and plug swap, should be around $365. This is figuring in $85/hr for the tech to be there, all parts with a 100% markup, and a guess of .5 hours drive time since I'm sure that dealer has many maintenances in the same area as yours on that day.
I've replaced the battery on my own a few times but at these prices it's a wash if I do it or if the service people do it.
I did manage to get a very expensive fuel line defect repaired for no charge. There's no way I could have done that myself or even qualified for the recall campaign and without my service people I would have been screwed.
*EDIT:* I just checked the specs of this deal. That looks like a 2-cyl leaf blower engine. I have a friend with that kind of engine and, wow, it's loud. My 4-cyl generator purrs by comparison.
I've replaced the battery on my own a few times but at these prices it's a wash if I do it or if the service people do it.
I agree that you should look into doing the maintenance yourself, it shouldn't be that tough and after the 1st time you do an oil change it should be cake afterwards.
I agree that you should look into doing the maintenance yourself, it shouldn't be that tough and after the 1st time you do an oil change it should be cake afterwards.
Oh, and as for the noise, I paid extra for the environmental sound-deadening enclosure. I would love to learn how loud the generator in this Slickdeal actually is with that air-cooled leafblower engine.
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Home Depot will arrange all that for you. Not sure how Costco or Sam's Club does it.
I mean, seriously, when I order this from Costco or Sam's Club do they just leave the generator on a skid in my driveway and say "Good luck, bro?"
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