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frontpage Posted by tunabreath • Mar 18, 2023
frontpage Posted by tunabreath • Mar 18, 2023

Sam's Club Members: Generac Guardian Series 22,000W (LP) Standby Generator

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$5,499

$5,999

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Sam's Club has for its Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for $5499. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
  • Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
  • 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
  • Alexa Smart Home Compatible
  • True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
  • Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • The generator itself is $500 lower than the list price. Additionally, the included free 10-year warranty is valued at $1035.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.

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Written by tunabreath
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Sam's Club has for its Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for $5499. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
  • Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
  • 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
  • Alexa Smart Home Compatible
  • True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
  • Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • The generator itself is $500 lower than the list price. Additionally, the included free 10-year warranty is valued at $1035.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.

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Written by tunabreath

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slickosaurus
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This is a good deal with shipping on just the unit but there will be additional costs to install.

Like an A/C heat pump it needs a concrete or composite concrete pad to sit on. You will likely need an electrician to connect it to your house and you may need to coordinate with your electric company for certain aspects of the installation like the auto transfer. Unless you have natural gas and get the conversion (I think a conversion is possible) you will also need a large propane tank installed (capacity of 100 to 250 gallons) by a propane company and coordinate with them for filling when needed/ahead of storms, etc. The tank is pretty big and needs to be within so many feet of the generator. These require annual maintenance that you may be able to do yourself or it's around $100 to $150 to have Generac do it. The 10 year warranty seems nice but 10 years of annual maintenance would be better. Finally these generators are big and heavy. I don't think you will be able to move it in place with a dolly.

I had a quote for purchase and install from a Generac dealer and installation was 30% or more of the quote. I never went through with it because installation seemed to be where they were gouging. The coordination with your power company should be free or minimal. Obviously electricians vary by area. I think the dealer had me coordinate with the propane company for install of the tank. I know Lowes sells Generacs. I would be interested in how much they charge for installation.
eurostylin
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FYI, this comes with a service rated 200A transfer switch. If your home does not have a 200A service, code prevents you from installing this because it has to be the first means of disconnect and has to be sized to your service panel.
DelightfulScene889
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I have this exact setup for about 1.5 years now. Works just as you'd expect. There are definitely more costs in other parts that are needed (base pad, piping, surge protector, the delay thingy). I went with Costco back then. All in it was $12,500 minus the 10% they gave me back on a Costco card, so $11,250.
At the time generators we're on backorder for 6 months or more. Sounds like they've gotten ahead of the supply issues now.

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Mar 19, 2023
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BudmanTom
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from jpswhtx :
I did this the poor man's way. Got the Duromax 13000HXT for $2,500. Had electrician install new breaker panel plus interlock kit and 50 amp power inlet for around $1,000. And a few hundred dollars for gas/power cords and to have plumber add a valve to my NG line. So probably $5k all in; and I have to wheel the genny out to my panel to use it when the time comes. But it's portable in a sense and powers the whole house including HVAC.
Well done, there are many ways to skin this cat.

The small issue I've had is finding a propane tank that can be rented, when I've called a couple providers they've said that unless I have a propane furnace and water heater they won't rent me the tank, so instead of paying $50 a year I would need to spend $3000 to purchase.

https://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP...atf_m&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP...atf_m&th=1
Mar 19, 2023
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tkeppell
Mar 19, 2023
395 Posts
Anyone installed this in Dallas, TX area? If so, what was the cost to install.
Mar 19, 2023
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larryjbro
Mar 19, 2023
45 Posts
Quote from WiseShape6317 :
Umm live in pitch black darkness for 10 days like I did during hurricane sandy and it becomes a hell of a lot more then not being able to play a movie or video game.
Big thing is no heat in the winter or an ice storm that can go for days or weeks
Mar 19, 2023
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larryjbro
Mar 19, 2023
45 Posts
Quote from BudmanTom :
In the last 8 years we've only had one power outage last more than 1 hour.

We also have 8k watts of solar I'm not sure it's a "good investment", our solar is grid tied. We also have a small 2k watt inverter generator that can keep our refrigerator & freezer going for 8 hrs on a gallon of gas.
We had an ice storm, 7 days, 25 outside. "Can we come stay at your house" generator was a life saver for us.
Mar 19, 2023
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larryjbro
Mar 19, 2023
45 Posts
We have a whole house generator. Knowing what I know now, a Honda 2000w could get us by. A furnace transfer switch, furnace draws about 750 watts, a few lights and TV will get you by.
Mar 19, 2023
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aegrotatio
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from graphixv :
Uh, have you ever really used this thing? I mean for like a couple days or a week.
I did say we've been on generator power for up to 7 days on multiple occasions. When I first installed it we would get power outages once a week for 6+ hours and every couple months for 12+ hours.

For context, our house is 100% electric.
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BudmanTom
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from larryjbro :
We had an ice storm, 7 days, 25 outside. "Can we come stay at your house" generator was a life saver for us.
I have little doubt that we would survive for 7 days with our generators especially since we have a wood burring stove and yes you're welcome to stay with us. Wink
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Amero07
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from Notaskull :
I purchased the Honeywell 22kw a few weeks back for 5100. Paid 2,500 for a Generac certified tech to install it, included all materials. Added the 10yr warranty for 1100. This is a better deal than I got. Make sure you shop around for installation.
Did you just Google Generac certified specialists or was there a number or website that had that info? The few that I've called wanted anywhere from 13-17k for the generator plus install.. they also wanted to convince me that buying my own would lead to higher installation price.. I had given up..
Mar 19, 2023
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Notaskull
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from Amero07 :
Did you just Google Generac certified specialists or was there a number or website that had that info? The few that I've called wanted anywhere from 13-17k for the generator plus install.. they also wanted to convince me that buying my own would lead to higher installation price.. I had given up..
https://www.generac.com/dealer-locator
Mar 19, 2023
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Notaskull
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from Blainn :
All these people saying 2-3 K for install are a aberration, my quotes were from 8-15k for my Honeywell.
Yeah, it definitely depends on your individual site. In my instance the generator was to be set 3ft off of the house and 6ft from the panel.

All he had to do was place and level the pad, slide the genset on, mount the ATS, run and terminate electrical, make the call for permit and reseal.

Gas company is setting the tank and making the gas connection.
Mar 19, 2023
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F9724
Mar 19, 2023
14 Posts
Quote from rocket007 :
Can I use this as a battery backup for sump pump ?
They have so many cheaper alternatives for a back up sump pump.
I am pretty sure it will power your sump pump., if it can power a whole house lol
Mar 19, 2023
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TeenReader
Mar 19, 2023
37 Posts
Quote from coachclass :
I'd like to get a roof solar setup and a battery wall before getting this type of generator. I mostly have short periods of power outage and a solar panel and battery would be more useful. It'll lower my energy bills and also provide some power backup when the power goes out. Not as good long lasting as a propane generator and not as dependable if things go really wrong.
I live in the mountains of California where our roads are constantly shut down due to landslides and falling trees. Earlier this year we went 9 days without electricity. We have a portable generator that is sufficient to power our home in Emergency mode (No EV or Dryer at the same time). I'm thinking about phasing my generator out for solar + panels. Even if the batterys are depleted you can use a very small efficient generator to charge them back over time.
Mar 19, 2023
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gover2087
Mar 19, 2023
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Quote from slickosaurus :
This is a good deal with shipping on just the unit but there will be additional costs to install.

Like an A/C heat pump it needs a concrete or composite concrete pad to sit on. You will likely need an electrician to connect it to your house and you may need to coordinate with your electric company for certain aspects of the installation like the auto transfer. Unless you have natural gas and get the conversion (I think a conversion is possible) you will also need a large propane tank installed (capacity of 100 to 250 gallons) by a propane company and coordinate with them for filling when needed/ahead of storms, etc. The tank is pretty big and needs to be within so many feet of the generator. These require annual maintenance that you may be able to do yourself or it's around $100 to $150 to have Generac do it. The 10 year warranty seems nice but 10 years of annual maintenance would be better. Finally these generators are big and heavy. I don't think you will be able to move it in place with a dolly.

I had a quote for purchase and install from a Generac dealer and installation was 30% or more of the quote. I never went through with it because installation seemed to be where they were gouging. The coordination with your power company should be free or minimal. Obviously electricians vary by area. I think the dealer had me coordinate with the propane company for install of the tank. I know Lowes sells Generacs. I would be interested in how much they charge for installation.
I'm gonna piggy back on this….. I just had one installed 4 mos ago and check with your utility if you have natural gas to make sure the meter can handle the extra BTU's. My meter could only handle 275,000 BTUs, my furnace uses 80,000 BTU, my water heater uses 30,000 BTU and the generac uses 260,000 BTU. In addition to the meter, you'll need the correct sized pipe running to the generator that can supply the generator the 260,000 BTU it may require or it won't work properly.

The natural gas service line running to my meter, the meter and the meter pressure all needed to be upgraded in my case.
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TimO8570
Mar 20, 2023
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Keep in mind if you plan to run it off NG, you may need to upgrade your gas service.

For most homes you'll need 1.5" service. 1" only supports runs of 20' or less for 20kw and you're competing with other NG appliances.

https://www.generatorjoe.net/html/pipesize.html

Propane is much more tolerant of smaller piping.

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twoweeled
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Quote from oopsz :
Yeah, you'll need about 12-15 kW to fire up the start capacitors then around 4-5 kW when it's running.

If you have multiple A/C units you need to put on a slow start kit so they don't all start up at the same time and overload the generator.

(Or just do like the prior owner of my house did and put in a 48 kW briggs and stratton with a 5L GM Vortec V8.)
Thanks for the info. I'm getting solar and looking into battery back up. Same story. That startup is too much for the battery back up too. Thanks for the info.

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