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frontpage Posted by tunabreath • Mar 18, 2023
frontpage Posted by tunabreath • Mar 18, 2023

Sam's Club Members: Generac Guardian Series 22,000W (LP) Standby Generator

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$5,499

$5,999

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Sam's Club has for its Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for $5499. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
  • Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
  • 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
  • Alexa Smart Home Compatible
  • True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
  • Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)

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Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • The generator itself is $500 lower than the list price. Additionally, the included free 10-year warranty is valued at $1035.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.

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Sam's Club has for its Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for $5499. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
  • Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
  • 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
  • Alexa Smart Home Compatible
  • True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
  • Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • The generator itself is $500 lower than the list price. Additionally, the included free 10-year warranty is valued at $1035.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.

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slickosaurus
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This is a good deal with shipping on just the unit but there will be additional costs to install.

Like an A/C heat pump it needs a concrete or composite concrete pad to sit on. You will likely need an electrician to connect it to your house and you may need to coordinate with your electric company for certain aspects of the installation like the auto transfer. Unless you have natural gas and get the conversion (I think a conversion is possible) you will also need a large propane tank installed (capacity of 100 to 250 gallons) by a propane company and coordinate with them for filling when needed/ahead of storms, etc. The tank is pretty big and needs to be within so many feet of the generator. These require annual maintenance that you may be able to do yourself or it's around $100 to $150 to have Generac do it. The 10 year warranty seems nice but 10 years of annual maintenance would be better. Finally these generators are big and heavy. I don't think you will be able to move it in place with a dolly.

I had a quote for purchase and install from a Generac dealer and installation was 30% or more of the quote. I never went through with it because installation seemed to be where they were gouging. The coordination with your power company should be free or minimal. Obviously electricians vary by area. I think the dealer had me coordinate with the propane company for install of the tank. I know Lowes sells Generacs. I would be interested in how much they charge for installation.
eurostylin
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FYI, this comes with a service rated 200A transfer switch. If your home does not have a 200A service, code prevents you from installing this because it has to be the first means of disconnect and has to be sized to your service panel.
DelightfulScene889
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I have this exact setup for about 1.5 years now. Works just as you'd expect. There are definitely more costs in other parts that are needed (base pad, piping, surge protector, the delay thingy). I went with Costco back then. All in it was $12,500 minus the 10% they gave me back on a Costco card, so $11,250.
At the time generators we're on backorder for 6 months or more. Sounds like they've gotten ahead of the supply issues now.

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eliteconcept
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Quote from funzie :
You are all missing the point. Exactly how will an Alexa capable generator be helpful to anybody if the power goes out?
probably can do other things.. remind you when it needs service, tell you the hour count on it. tell you when it last ran.. I'm just guessing here but you don't tell alexa to turn this kind of generator on.
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Quote from twoweeled :
I'm sure it sounds stupid, but can you run a 4 ton AC on this? I'm finding I most likely can't on solar with a battery back up ONLY. Will this run a 4 ton AC? Thanks
I have to assume, yes. Let's say you are on NG, that's 19.5kW. That's a 160 amps! This is as much or even more than many homes before the 90s have. Some search results are showing me that a typical 4-ton AC will take 10-15 Amps. Using this calculator [pickhvac.com], I plugged in a 5-ton crusty-ass 10 SEER (you can't even buy that now), and that's still 30 Amps.

This kind of sized generator is truly meant to be "whole house." They also make selective emergency smaller generators that are meant to back up a couple of circuits. At 20kW you're looking at "I want to use my whole house when the power goes out, as if nothing's wrong."
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Quote from twoweeled :
I'm sure it sounds stupid, but can you run a 4 ton AC on this? I'm finding I most likely can't on solar with a battery back up ONLY. Will this run a 4 ton AC? Thanks
Yeah, you'll need about 12-15 kW to fire up the start capacitors then around 4-5 kW when it's running.

If you have multiple A/C units you need to put on a slow start kit so they don't all start up at the same time and overload the generator.

(Or just do like the prior owner of my house did and put in a 48 kW briggs and stratton with a 5L GM Vortec V8.)
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SlickHamster613
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Quote from BrianT1548 :
Pretty darn expensive. Most of my house does not need anywhere near 200A. All I need is to run sump pump, water pump, refrigerators, furnace (or AC if super hot). I do not need to power the dryers / laser printers, etc. Why would install cost be so high?
Because you aren't doing it.
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coachclass
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Quote from BudmanTom :
The you are looking at around $30k?

I have a 5k watt generator that will power my house with the essentials that I spent about $500 for "all in" including so electrical work. Not the best and or the safest but in a real emergency I will have the essentials.

I also have a small sub 1000 watt solar setup with 2 deep cycle RV batteries and a 2k watt inverter, i have about a $1000 into that system.

Our regular PV system is great but it's a no-go when the power goes out (like most of them) .
For the little bit the the power goes out (Chicago metro), it might a better investment to spend $30k for battery + solar panel that can save you money on grid power all year long, and act as emergency power for things like keeping the refrigerator and furnace running. I'd skip the air conditioning in an emergency I think. The gas generator costing between $6k and $10k would only be useful in emergencies.
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graphixv
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Quote from aegrotatio :
My installation cost was 40% of the total cost of the system and included a 1,000 lbs propane tank buried in the back yard and a couple hundred feet of buried yellow gas line. Also in the cost was a new electrical sub panel for the load and a transfer switch. Also a few hundred dollars for pulling permits. My generator powers everything in the house including the water heater but not the heat pump, stove, or laundry dryer.

Every year I spend $500 for a company to service the generator (air filter, oil change, oil filter) and be on 24/7 standby for emergency repairs.

Every three or four years I spend around $800 for major service (battery, lube points, coolant flush, clean out) by that company.

Owning a whole-house generator is just like owning another car. In fact my generator has a Mitsubishi 4-cylinder car engine inside it that is converted to LP. Note that using natural gas on an LP engine will require even more modifications and expense.
Uh, have you ever really used this thing? I mean for like a couple days or a week.

Outside of a winter event 15 years ago, we've never lost power for more than half a day and that's pretty rare. I have some solar here for minimal backup but it's mostly used for novelty purposes.

You must really be concerned because that's a pretty steep bill.
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Used to want one of these, now my dream is a kubota lowboy. Runs on diesel, but unlike these, will last "forever".

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Quote from bnmike :
Fyi I got many quotes in NJ to set this exact gen up (and relatively easy set up as gas meter, electric box, and generator spot all very close) d you can expect to pay minimum 12k all in for this plus installation
You're exactly correct. My neighbor just installed one and it was 13k in Florida.
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Deal-R-Dash
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Not sure if Costco is attempting to beat Sam's or just coincidence but they have a Honeywell 22k generator with a 10 year warranty $100 cheaper...

https://www.costco.com/honeywell-...67860.html
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Elcheapster
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Quote from funzie :
You are all missing the point. Exactly how will an Alexa capable generator be helpful to anybody if the power goes out?
You're correct in the case of a natural disaster such as a hurricane. During a widespread power outage your ISP usually your cable company will shutdown. Starlink or Tmoblie cellular customers might not be affected.
Last edited by Elcheapster March 19, 2023 at 05:08 AM.
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sweetboy79
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Quote from rocket007 :
Can I use this as a battery backup for sump pump ?
Yes u got 500hp pump 💪
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jpswhtx
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I did this the poor man's way. Got the Duromax 13000HXT for $2,500. Had electrician install new breaker panel plus interlock kit and 50 amp power inlet for around $1,000. And a few hundred dollars for gas/power cords and to have plumber add a valve to my NG line. So probably $5k all in; and I have to wheel the genny out to my panel to use it when the time comes. But it's portable in a sense and powers the whole house including HVAC.
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Quote from jpswhtx :
I did this the poor man's way. Got the Duromax 13000HXT for $2,500. Had electrician install new breaker panel plus interlock kit and 50 amp power inlet for around $1,000. And a few hundred dollars for gas/power cords and to have plumber add a valve to my NG line. So probably $5k all in; and I have to wheel the genny out to my panel to use it when the time comes. But it's portable in a sense and powers the whole house including HVAC.
It's on sale now for $1999

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DUROM.../320363930
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Quote from coachclass :
For the little bit the the power goes out (Chicago metro), it might a better investment to spend $30k for battery + solar panel that can save you money on grid power all year long, and act as emergency power for things like keeping the refrigerator and furnace running. I'd skip the air conditioning in an emergency I think. The gas generator costing between $6k and $10k would only be useful in emergencies.
In the last 8 years we've only had one power outage last more than 1 hour.

We also have 8k watts of solar I'm not sure it's a "good investment", our solar is grid tied. We also have a small 2k watt inverter generator that can keep our refrigerator & freezer going for 8 hrs on a gallon of gas.

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It's a neat solution but it's hard to swallow when you could occasionally snatch a 3 kW generator for $200, add a "suicide cord" for $100, and you can cover your basic needs for those few hours, let it be days, of power outage on average that you will have in the next several years. Assuming you are not oxygen dependent, some unique circumstances, etc. $300-400 (heck, make it $1,000) vs $10,000.

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