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Sam's Club Members: Generac Guardian Series 22,000W (LP) Standby Generator

$5,499

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Sam's Club has for its Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for $5499. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
  • Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
  • 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
  • Alexa Smart Home Compatible
  • True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
  • Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • The generator itself is $500 lower than the list price. Additionally, the included free 10-year warranty is valued at $1035.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.

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Written by tunabreath
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Sam's Club has for its Members: Generac Guardian Series WiFi Enabled 22,000-Watt (LP) / 19,500-Watt (NG) Standby Generator with 200A Automatic Transfer Switch (G007043) on sale for $5499. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Best-in-class power quality with less then 5 percent total harmonic distortion
  • Mobile Link remote monitoring allows you to monitor the status of your generator
  • 200 Amp Whole Home Transfer Switch
  • Alexa Smart Home Compatible
  • True Power Technology delivers utility-grade power quality with less than 5 percent total harmonic distortion for clean, smooth operation of sensitive electronics and appliances.
  • Comes with a 10 Year Warranty (must be installed & activated by 6/25/23)

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • The generator itself is $500 lower than the list price. Additionally, the included free 10-year warranty is valued at $1035.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion and advice regarding this deal.

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Written by tunabreath

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Mar 20, 2023 4:58 AM
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twoweeledMar 20, 2023 4:58 AM
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Quote from dehchoppa :
I have to assume, yes. Let's say you are on NG, that's 19.5kW. That's a 160 amps! This is as much or even more than many homes before the 90s have. Some search results are showing me that a typical 4-ton AC will take 10-15 Amps. Using this calculator [pickhvac.com], I plugged in a 5-ton crusty-ass 10 SEER (you can't even buy that now), and that's still 30 Amps.

This kind of sized generator is truly meant to be "whole house." They also make selective emergency smaller generators that are meant to back up a couple of circuits. At 20kW you're looking at "I want to use my whole house when the power goes out, as if nothing's wrong."
What I've read, is the startup is what's tough on these backups. It may run on 20-30 amps, but takes like 130 amps on startup. I'm still looking into it. Thanks for you feedback.
Mar 20, 2023 10:39 AM
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CrunchyNapkinMar 20, 2023 10:39 AM
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Quote from Notaskull :
I purchased the Honeywell 22kw a few weeks back for 5100. Paid 2,500 for a Generac certified tech to install it, included all materials. Added the 10yr warranty for 1100. This is a better deal than I got. Make sure you shop around for installation.
How did you get such a good installation price. The generac certified installers all want about the price of the generator for install and generac themselves told me this would be a reasonable price for install. They also told me that there is no warranty if I do not use their approved installer which I think sounds like bullshhh.
Mar 20, 2023 11:28 AM
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CrunchyNapkinMar 20, 2023 11:28 AM
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Quote from Notaskull :
I went to Generacs website and looked at their dealer list. Found a local dealer and had him do a site survey. He gave an estimate of around 3300. I talked him down to 2500.

He did an awesome job and didn't have an issue with installing a unit that I purchased. It was indeed just dropped on a pallet in my driveway, I didn't expect a third party delivery person to move it where I wanted it.

Another local dealer quoted me 17k to purchase a 22kw and install it. So buying the unit myself and sourcing the install saved a ton.
It's crazy how much they gouge for installation. Even generac tells you to expect to pay the price for the generator for installation. And I'm not clear do they require one of their licensed people to install it to honor their warranty? That is what they told me over the phone but I can't believe this.
Mar 20, 2023 11:31 AM
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CrunchyNapkinMar 20, 2023 11:31 AM
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Quote from Blainn :
All these people saying 2-3 K for install are a aberration, my quotes were from 8-15k for my Honeywell.
Just curious how far away are they installing your generator from your electrical box and gas line?
Mar 20, 2023 11:35 AM
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iridiumMar 20, 2023 11:35 AM
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Quote from gover2087 :
I'm gonna piggy back on this….. I just had one installed 4 mos ago and check with your utility if you have natural gas to make sure the meter can handle the extra BTU's. My meter could only handle 275,000 BTUs, my furnace uses 80,000 BTU, my water heater uses 30,000 BTU and the generac uses 260,000 BTU. In addition to the meter, you'll need the correct sized pipe running to the generator that can supply the generator the 260,000 BTU it may require or it won't work properly.

The natural gas service line running to my meter, the meter and the meter pressure all needed to be upgraded in my case.
How much did upgrading NG line cost?
Mar 20, 2023 11:35 AM
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CrunchyNapkinMar 20, 2023 11:35 AM
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Quote from eurostylin :
The same generator can cost $1500 at one location, or $50,000 at another.

Permit fees, gas meter location, gas meter size, (don't ever allow a contractor to tee into an existing gas line ran to a furnace, etc) electrical service, electrical panel distance... I could go on and on.
Mine was considering using the gas line for my pool heater. Is this a bad idea? Why?
Mar 20, 2023 11:55 AM
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VincentV6780Mar 20, 2023 11:55 AM
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get a tesla power wall… and maybe some solar if you want. a lot cheaper and govt rebates

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Mar 20, 2023 11:57 AM
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SlickDillieMar 20, 2023 11:57 AM
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You can totally tell who lives in hurricane areas and who doesn't 🙄
Mar 20, 2023 12:34 PM
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BlainnMar 20, 2023 12:34 PM
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Quote from CrunchyNapkin :
Just curious how far away are they installing your generator from your electrical box and gas line?

About 70 feet thru the attic.
Mar 20, 2023 12:36 PM
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NotaskullMar 20, 2023 12:36 PM
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Quote from CrunchyNapkin :
It's crazy how much they gouge for installation. Even generac tells you to expect to pay the price for the generator for installation. And I'm not clear do they require one of their licensed people to install it to honor their warranty? That is what they told me over the phone but I can't believe this.
It does indeed have to be installed by a certified technician in order for the warranty to be valid.
Mar 20, 2023 12:43 PM
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Dr. JMar 20, 2023 12:43 PM
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Quote from jpswhtx :
I did this the poor man's way. Got the Duromax 13000HXT for $2,500. Had electrician install new breaker panel plus interlock kit and 50 amp power inlet for around $1,000. And a few hundred dollars for gas/power cords and to have plumber add a valve to my NG line. So probably $5k all in; and I have to wheel the genny out to my panel to use it when the time comes. But it's portable in a sense and powers the whole house including HVAC.

Some people get really fancy with portable generators, essentially making them as integrated and "stand by" as possible; building small sheds with ventilation, remote start, etc etc. Tons of YT videos on the subject,.
Mar 20, 2023 12:49 PM
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Dr. JMar 20, 2023 12:49 PM
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Quote from VincentV6780 :
get a tesla power wall… and maybe some solar if you want. a lot cheaper and govt rebates
Not really. Powerwalls/battery backup doesn't really make sense when you consider the cost and amount of local storage, unless you have the solar and sun coverage to basically be self-sufficient.

1 PW has ~ 13.5kWh capacity (which isn't entirely usable) with 5.8/10kW available. The average home uses nearly 30kwh/day, so unless you're getting 3 PW to the tune of $30k plus a solar install to recharge it, that isn't really a "standby" whole home solution. If you're stuck with it and have the $$ I guess it's OK, but a standby like this, full install, is just a fraction of the price of the PW setup and will just keep running.

I even find it hard to justify a standby setup like this - yeah it would be ideal but even if I do the install mostly myself, there's still some labor and materials involved, best case say I'm $10k all in, for what, the power going out half a day yearly - when I already have a 10/12kW portable that I spent $40 to integrate into my panel. I'd be spending $10k to save myself an hour of hauling a generator around once a year or so. Doesn't sound like a good payback case to me.
Last edited by Dr. J March 20, 2023 at 05:51 AM.
Mar 20, 2023 1:18 PM
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mgoodlinMar 20, 2023 1:18 PM
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nah, I paid 900 for a 10k unit and just roll it outside. Convenient but hard pass.
Mar 20, 2023 1:56 PM
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dehchoppaMar 20, 2023 1:56 PM
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Quote from twoweeled :
What I've read, is the startup is what's tough on these backups. It may run on 20-30 amps, but takes like 130 amps on startup. I'm still looking into it. Thanks for you feedback.
I understand now - didn't realize. Sounds like user oopsz has more of an understanding there!

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Mar 20, 2023 3:04 PM
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damonfloydMar 20, 2023 3:04 PM
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Quote from Notaskull :
I went to Generacs website and looked at their dealer list. Found a local dealer and had him do a site survey. He gave an estimate of around 3300. I talked him down to 2500.

He did an awesome job and didn't have an issue with installing a unit that I purchased. It was indeed just dropped on a pallet in my driveway, I didn't expect a third party delivery person to move it where I wanted it.

Another local dealer quoted me 17k to purchase a 22kw and install it. So buying the unit myself and sourcing the install saved a ton.
I wish I had done this. When I bought mine, supply was very limited and demand very high, so I could not find any installers willing to install a unit I purchased. I ended up paying a little over 18k, and ours was a simple install with NG and electric on the same side of the house. The biggest concern I had was not getting the warranty if I didn't use "authorized" installers. I'm not sure how strict Generac is on this, but I didn't want any ambiguity. Ironically, the "authorized" dealer was 3 hours away and couldn't handle logistics, so I ended up finding the local plumber and electrician for them, which is what I would have done if I was installing myself. Based on what they charged, I could have probably come in at about half of what I spent.

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