Onkyo USA has
Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel THX Certified Network A/V Receiver (Certified Factory Refurbished) on sale for
$959.
Shipping is free (
via UPS ground).
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newjack for finding this deal
Note, product is a certified refurbished unit.
About the Product- 250W/Channel THX Certified Select RZ Series Dynamic Audio Amplification
- 9.2-Channel Smart AV Receiver
- 4K/120 Enables Gaming Experience
- Discrete Zone 2 HDMI Switching
- 11.2-Channel Processing/Pre-Outs for 7.2.4 layouts
- Built-In Streaming Services
- Built-In Multi-Zone Streaming/Voice Control
- DTS Play-Fi Enabled
- Works w/ Sonos Certified
Warranty 
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you won't find anything else with dirac and full pre-outs at anywhere near this price.
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I saw a comparison photo showing both the insides and the layout is the same (can't find it again). Whether there are component quality differences or whatever, I don't know if anybody has compared to that level of detail.
The back panels are the same. https://imgur.com/a/pqg9CIL The internal layout is the same. The menu system is the same except for the logo. There are slight feature differences that you can learn about if you want to read through all those forum threads.
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Imo, unless S&S can confirm that warranty applies to OB products, its safer to get this to get a guaranteed 1 year of warranty and use you credit card to get another years worth (if applicable).
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Monoprice (for individual amps or their 4k receiver) does pay for return shipping if there is a problem during the warranty timeline but they are a rarity. If someone knows of another receiver company that doesn't make the end user pay for shipping to the repair depot when repairs are needed please update this.
You can read their official return policy at: https://onkyousa.com/returns (basically unless the item page says differently , can return at your dime for 90days before you take a 15% hit if they accept it, people also withhold original shipping charges. My guess would be that would include the price they paid when they gave you free shipping.)
This one says 250w with 2 channels. How much per channel with 7 channels driven, 75w?
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This one says 250w with 2 channels. How much per channel with 7 channels driven, 75w?
If I had a 3800 h and was happy with the volumes it supplied I'd wait for the rz70 to come down in price to this level in a year or two, This is not a huge improvement as your denon does pretty much everything this one does except for a different room correction (and has 4 subs out So you don't need a y adapter if you have more than two.) Again, if you're happy with the performance of yours, keep it and wait.
This one says 250w with 2 channels. How much per channel with 7 channels driven, 75w?
The big selling point of this is the Dirac room correction
My personal experience says Dirac is better than Audyssey...YMMV
Never again, Onkyo.
This one says 250w with 2 channels. How much per channel with 7 channels driven, 75w?
Overall, most would say not to go from 3800 to the RZ50.
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