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Mar 31, 2023 6:49 PM
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Quote from justlooking818 View quoted comment :
i still have a very old synology 1510 that i upgraded to 8gb no name ram(matching 4gb sticks). works till this day and still doesn't want to break. bad thing is that it doesn't support the new dsm. only disadvantage is that the CPU can't keep up with the ram and i see it peaking a lot. but for the most part, it just works.

as far as NVME, know that this is just for ready cache and can't be used as storage unless you get the synology that allows that (only 2 of the newer one's can do that from my knowledge)

now if you do the xpenology route, it opens up faster cpu, faster ram, and useing NVME as storage. does it make a difference? depends on use case and electricity cost

i have both 1 synology and 2 Xpenology (soon to be 3), if i were to do it again, i would just do Xpenolgy as recycling my old computers is cheaper than buying a synology.
I did just order a z690/12600k to replace my htpc bones. So I will have a 6700k, 32gb ram itx combo I could use for a build. I would just need a case. I think I even have an extra new itx psu in my closet, 750 platinum. I would put that in the htpc and move the older one I to the nas.

Hmmmm.... What to do
Mar 31, 2023 7:09 PM
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theragu40Mar 31, 2023 7:09 PM
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Quote from appleguy82 View quoted comment :
Look at your local Facebook marketplace or Ebay for HP N40, 54L, Gen server 8 or 10 plus all of these except the agen 10 Plus will be below 300 400$. And a much beefier cpu. And ram upgrades possible.

Only caveat would be the synology form factor is very portable. But the micro server is not a huge arse server like a 3U or 4U its a very small cube box shaped server that can take 4 drives plus 1 more (2.5 inch).

You can also add Quad Nic Lan or SFP port etc on it

Granted Synoly boxes are very nice and small, but if it's a NAS cmon how often will you be moving it around. Usually would sit in a corner in your basement or office etc.

You can also use a old server or custom build your small form NAS Box but those wouldn't be same as the HP Microserver.

The best thing about these HP microservers is they are very robust and reliable. I have N54L running DSM 6.1.2 since more than few year and had it on DSM 5.2 before that.

The thing is you cannot just update to synology firmware updates or risk breaking it.

The Xpenology is a port / hack with that caveat yoi get a much beefier cpu and ram etc.

I have the HP N54L running 4x 10Tb drives (red easy stores) for almost 2 years or more. As long as you don't firmware upgrade there aren't any gotchas.

Yes the one thing is Synology quick connect doesn't work as that needs a legit synology serial, but it is very easy to install Zero Tier or tail scale..I use ZT.. for remote access (vpn) from outside your house

HTH
I generally agree with all this.

One thing I would say though is that the microservers are not quite as "plug n play" as this post suggests. They require a fair amount of dinking around to get them set up. I've set up both an N40 and a Gen8 box as a NAS.

The bays are not hot swappable by default, and require flashing unsupported firmware to become hot swappable. HP's support pages require a support contract to access now, so this can be a pain. Also there are only 5 sata ports, and one is used for the disk drive. So if you want to store your OS on a SSD apart from the rest of the drives you will need to either buy a SATA controller card or use the internal USB port to creatively set up a solution (as I did).

There are huge pros. As you said, the CPUs are much more capable (particularly in Gen8 and up...the N40 is pretty darn slow), and you are more flexible if you don't mind tinkering. I bought a SAS controller for my Gen8 and run TrueNAS with direct disk access for zraid. It's really nice, really fast, and (so far) really reliable.

But for someone just looking to toss disks into an enclosure and go...there are definite merits to a pre-rolled solution like the Synology.
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Was on fence of getting a NAS. Found a 920+ with 4*4TB iron wolf in mint condition.

Took a while to format, provision, etc, but I'm sold on NAS! A pleasure to not deal with any cloud services. Synology apps are easy. Photos really works just as easy as Google photos, and instantly backups from my mobile devices.

I'm quite technically knowledge, but I wouldn't have time to build my own NAS. It's a leaning curve learning all the new networking lingo as it is, and just playing around all the features and benefits of a NAS already built gobbles up hours and hours.

Perhaps next time I need another NAS or when my current PC build is outdated in 10 years, it will be he second nature to build NAS.

Plus I paid $500 including hdd so can't complain much.
Mar 31, 2023 7:20 PM
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appleguy82Mar 31, 2023 7:20 PM
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Quote from theragu40 View quoted comment :
I generally agree with all this.

One thing I would say though is that the microservers are not quite as "plug n play" as this post suggests. They require a fair amount of dinking around to get them set up. I've set up both an N40 and a Gen8 box as a NAS.

The bays are not hot swappable by default, and require flashing unsupported firmware to become hot swappable. HP's support pages require a support contract to access now, so this can be a pain. Also there are only 5 sata ports, and one is used for the disk drive. So if you want to store your OS on a SSD apart from the rest of the drives you will need to either buy a SATA controller card or use the internal USB port to creatively set up a solution (as I did).

There are huge pros. As you said, the CPUs are much more capable (particularly in Gen8 and up...the N40 is pretty darn slow), and you are more flexible if you don't mind tinkering. I bought a SAS controller for my Gen8 and run TrueNAS with direct disk access for zraid. It's really nice, really fast, and (so far) really reliable.

But for someone just looking to toss disks into an enclosure and go...there are definite merits to a pre-rolled solution like the Synology.
Yes the Xpenology route is primarily for enthusiasts, tinkeres.. diy folks

If you only wanna plug and play should get synology Box and pay their tax.

You are right the hot swap is not enabled off the bat, but flashing bios etc is such a small trivial task for me I totally even forgot about that.

Also I use the UsB port to boot the Xpenology loader so don't need to waste a sata port and also even if you do true nas or free nas that usb port can be used.

Overall I am pretty happy its slightly larger than a DS1813 and I put a Intel Quad NIC 1gig x4 on the back and quite satisfied.

I do docker, plex and tons of other stuff.

My assumption to suggest this was more to IT oriented folks or someone who really wants to take the pain to go through the initial work.

I paid like 250$ for my N54L 4 or 5 years ago..it's been running without a hiccup since then.

The only pain is when jumping from 6 to 7 you gotta wait for Xpenology Developers and even that is optional if you are fine with staying on the same release.

This is not a plug and play, there is significant prep, research, trial and troubleshooting but again we are on SD ๐Ÿ™‚
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demetronMar 31, 2023 7:23 PM
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Quote from theragu40 View quoted comment :
I generally agree with all this.

One thing I would say though is that the microservers are not quite as "plug n play" as this post suggests. They require a fair amount of dinking around to get them set up. I've set up both an N40 and a Gen8 box as a NAS.

The bays are not hot swappable by default, and require flashing unsupported firmware to become hot swappable. HP's support pages require a support contract to access now, so this can be a pain. Also there are only 5 sata ports, and one is used for the disk drive. So if you want to store your OS on a SSD apart from the rest of the drives you will need to either buy a SATA controller card or use the internal USB port to creatively set up a solution (as I did).

There are huge pros. As you said, the CPUs are much more capable (particularly in Gen8 and up...the N40 is pretty darn slow), and you are more flexible if you don't mind tinkering. I bought a SAS controller for my Gen8 and run TrueNAS with direct disk access for zraid. It's really nice, really fast, and (so far) really reliable.

But for someone just looking to toss disks into an enclosure and go...there are definite merits to a pre-rolled solution like the Synology.
I found one Gen 8 server on local craigslist, but it has Pentium G2020T CPU, which is very old (Ivy Bridge generation) and is significantly slower than the Ryzen R1600 found in this 4-bay Synology. But that Gen 8 was posted for just $120 compared to $510, making it cheaper that the 2-bay version
Mar 31, 2023 7:26 PM
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appleguy82Mar 31, 2023 7:26 PM
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For reference I am posting am Ebay Sellers link disclaimer I am not the seller nor do I know how good they are bur seems their feedback is good.

For $250 you get Micro Server Gen 8 w Xeon Proc.any xeon from 5 or more years old will still blow any of their gimped Cpu on the newer syno boxes they make them cute minus the processors.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22502921...media=COPY

has 8 GB RAM TO boot as well, ram really makes a big difference when you run plex containers vm or just host applications like photo manager, copy large files or multi task.


I get for those who don't or have the money to $ afford should get the NAS from Synology but what I hate is they and QNAp both put half arse decent CPU only on $$$$ boxes not the 200 300 500$ nas. and it's a shame the boxes are very capable minus the ram and cpu pre installed from syno.

also some Xpenology like HP Microserver Gen 10 Plus that comes with Intel Pentium CpU You can upgrade the Cpu again for DiY ers primarily so ymmv.
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Mar 31, 2023 7:32 PM
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p0tempkinMar 31, 2023 7:32 PM
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Holding tight to my DS920.

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Mar 31, 2023 7:33 PM
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appleguy82Mar 31, 2023 7:33 PM
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Quote from demetron View quoted comment :
I found one Gen 8 server on local craigslist, but it has Pentium G2020T CPU, which is very old (Ivy Bridge generation) and is significantly slower than the Ryzen R1600 found in this 4-bay Synology. But that Gen 8 was posted for just $120 compared to $510, making it cheaper that the 2-bay version
This is what I mean exactly ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ‘

For value for money you cannot beat the Xpenology route.

If you have no time tinkering or figuring it out or have 0 tech knowledge then don't go this path.

I personally prefer the Xpenology route.

I even got 2x HP N54L and setup an Active HA Cluster using Synology HA. Was super cool.

I upgraded the N54l to 16GB ram, it's amazing.
Mar 31, 2023 7:34 PM
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p0tempkinMar 31, 2023 7:34 PM
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Quote from appleguy82 View quoted comment :
For reference I am posting am Ebay Sellers link disclaimer I am not the seller nor do I know how good they are bur seems their feedback is good.

For $250 you get Micro Server Gen 8 w Xeon Proc.any xeon from 5 or more years old will still blow any of their gimped Cpu on the newer syno boxes they make them cute minus the processors.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22502921...media=COPY

has 8 GB RAM TO boot as well, ram really makes a big difference when you run plex containers vm or just host applications like photo manager, copy large files or multi task.


I get for those who don't or have the money to $ afford should get the NAS from Synology but what I hate is they and QNAp both put half arse decent CPU only on $$$$ boxes not the 200 300 500$ nas. and it's a shame the boxes are very capable minus the ram and cpu pre installed from syno.

also some Xpenology like HP Microserver Gen 10 Plus that comes with Intel Pentium CpU You can upgrade the Cpu again for DiY ers primarily so ymmv.
People buy Synology for their software and out of box experience. You can always get more power for less money going DIY if you want to do all the required software configuration yourself.
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Quote from appleguy82 View quoted comment :
This is what I mean exactly ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ‘

For value for money you cannot beat the Xpenology route.

If you have no time tinkering or figuring it out or have 0 tech knowledge then don't go this path.

I personally prefer the Xpenology route.

I even got 2x HP N54L and setup an Active HA Cluster using Synology HA. Was super cool.

I upgraded the N54l to 16GB ram, it's amazing.
I appreciate sharing these details. I too resent just how terrible the ram and cpu they use. I'd love to be convicted to build it myself and hardware wise, I'd actually welcome it.

BUT! It's the software that gives me pause and why I bought used, the 920+ w/ 4x4gb hdd for $500 instead. Still too much, but for what nets down to approx $350 for ds920+, it made it acceptable for me.
Mar 31, 2023 7:46 PM
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Quote from ThirstyCruz View quoted comment :
I appreciate sharing these details. I too resent just how terrible the ram and cpu they use. I'd love to be convicted to build it myself and hardware wise, I'd actually welcome it.

BUT! It's the software that gives me pause and why I bought used, the 920+ w/ 4x4gb hdd for $500 instead. Still too much, but for what nets down to approx $350 for ds920+, it made it acceptable for me.
Good luck on your 920.

But Xpenology is the same DSM port to run on non synology hardware.

When Iogin to my Xpenology box it acts and behaves like a Synology Box.

But I get not everyone has time to spend hours and days just to setup a NAS so again ymmv.
Mar 31, 2023 7:48 PM
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artibramuirMar 31, 2023 7:48 PM
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Power efficiency is not just about your electricity bills. I've run a four bay Synology in extremely tight equipment closets with limited thermal capacity. I didn't just chuck the Synology in and hope for the bestโ€”I experimented with layouts and fans and closely watched the temp readings until I was confident it was safeโ€”but a computer with a more powerful CPU or bigger power supply likely would have been much harder to keep in a safe temperature range, if it was doable at all. Granted, I live in a place that gets pretty hot in the summer and my house has is small and has poor insulation, so I might have more thermal constraints than most people.
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Quote from appleguy82 View quoted comment :
Good luck on your 920.

But Xpenology is the same DSM port to run on non synology hardware.

When Iogin to my Xpenology box it acts and behaves like a Synology Box.

But I get not everyone has time to spend hours and days just to setup a NAS so again ymmv.
Where could I read upon Xpenology and installing DSM on it? Again, thanks for sharing so much knowledge here
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appleguy82Mar 31, 2023 8:46 PM
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Quote from ThirstyCruz View quoted comment :
Where could I read upon Xpenology and installing DSM on it? Again, thanks for sharing so much knowledge here
Xpenology forums. There are detailed step by step guides and the community is very helpful..

https://xpenology.com/forum/

xpenology basically allows you to run Synology DSM Disk Station manager on Non Synology boxes..you can make DIY a very powerful NAS if cost is not a big concern.

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Quote from p0tempkin View quoted comment :
People buy Synology for their software and out of box experience. You can always get more power for less money going DIY if you want to do all the required software configuration yourself.
^ This is the key thing here. People always post about how you can build or buy a box to be a NAS that's cheaper or better than something like a Synology. I worked in IT for a lot of years and the last thing I want to do when I get home is tinker with stuff like this after tinkering with stuff at work. I want to buy something purpose-made that does what it's made to do and I don't have to think about it. I'm very happy with my Synology even if it cost more, or, is less powerful than, a similarly spec'd homemade system.
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