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Mar 31, 2023 4:27 AM

[Clearance-sale] TwoTrees TS3 10W Enclosured Diode Laser Engraver $439 shipped

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TwoTrees TS3 10W Laser
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Apr 2, 2023 4:32 AM
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LaughingSomnambulistApr 2, 2023 4:32 AM
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FYI, this is the standard version: No cotton smoke filter and no rotary platform for engraving glasses and other cylindrical objects.
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Apr 5, 2023 11:15 PM
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TheCraftyCatsmanApr 5, 2023 11:15 PM
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Seems overpriced for what it is. You can buy a c02 k40 laser for this price and do much more.

I just looked up the current price of the OMTech k40 that I have and it's $479. Curious to hear anyone's reasoning for why a 10w is worth it (not being sarcastic).

I don't think that I can post pictures here but if you go a little ways down on this link you can see my k40 in my old dungeon..eh, workshop: https://thecraftycatsman.com/comp...r-cutters/

Granted, the k40 does require tinkering. It is leagues ahead of a 10w diode laser.
Apr 7, 2023 3:11 AM
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Shop_shop_ShopApr 7, 2023 3:11 AM
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Quote from TheCraftyCatsman View quoted comment :
Seems overpriced for what it is. You can buy a c02 k40 laser for this price and do much more.

I just looked up the current price of the OMTech k40 that I have and it's $479. Curious to hear anyone's reasoning for why a 10w is worth it (not being sarcastic).

I don't think that I can post pictures here but if you go a little ways down on this link you can see my k40 in my old dungeon..eh, workshop: https://thecraftycatsman.com/comp...r-cutters/ [thecraftycatsman.com]

Granted, the k40 does require tinkering. It is leagues ahead of a 10w diode laser.
Would you happen to be confusing the input wattage with the output wattage of a diode laser?
Because I would really like to know what the K40 can do better than this 10w diode considering how it's leagues ahead?
Apr 7, 2023 1:25 PM
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TheCraftyCatsmanApr 7, 2023 1:25 PM
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Quote from orelaf View quoted comment :
Would you happen to be confusing the input wattage with the output wattage of a diode laser?
Because I would really like to know what the K40 can do better than this 10w diode considering how it's leagues ahead?
This is my take:

1. k40 has a larger cutting bed with the ability to widen with some tinkering. This is a big deal to me because I find that even the k40 is often too small for what I am cutting. To go even smaller would be a dealbreaker for me.

2. 10w diodes are a stretch and most do not maintain that level of power for long. I can't say for certain about this one but I would rather go with a cO2. My reasoning is this, for cO2 lasers the k40 is actually small, for diode lasers the 10w is large (most are 5w). I would rather go with a product that is not struggling to hit its ceiling.

3. Upgrades: the k40 is a tinkerers toy, I get that. But you can upgrade parts over time to get even better outputs. From what I can see, the 10w laser does not offer the same flexibility.

4. Acrylic: You can not cut clear acrylics with a diode laser.

Given the above, I would expect the 10w diode laser to be less than a k40. Further, I see no world where this 10w laser is worth $849. At the sale price it is price competitive to a k40 product that offers a larger cutting area, more customization and cutting options.

To be fair, I think the main argument for a 10w diode is simplicity. I think that argument held more water 5 years ago when k40's had more production related issues.

As I said though, I am curious to hear feedback from others.
Apr 8, 2023 4:56 AM
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Quote from TheCraftyCatsman View quoted comment :
This is my take:

1. k40 has a larger cutting bed with the ability to widen with some tinkering. This is a big deal to me because I find that even the k40 is often too small for what I am cutting. To go even smaller would be a dealbreaker for me.

2. 10w diodes are a stretch and most do not maintain that level of power for long. I can't say for certain about this one but I would rather go with a cO2. My reasoning is this, for cO2 lasers the k40 is actually small, for diode lasers the 10w is large (most are 5w). I would rather go with a product that is not struggling to hit its ceiling.

3. Upgrades: the k40 is a tinkerers toy, I get that. But you can upgrade parts over time to get even better outputs. From what I can see, the 10w laser does not offer the same flexibility.

4. Acrylic: You can not cut clear acrylics with a diode laser.

Given the above, I would expect the 10w diode laser to be less than a k40. Further, I see no world where this 10w laser is worth $849. At the sale price it is price competitive to a k40 product that offers a larger cutting area, more customization and cutting options.

To be fair, I think the main argument for a 10w diode is simplicity. I think that argument held more water 5 years ago when k40's had more production related issues.

As I said though, I am curious to hear feedback from others.
It seems like a lot of what you're saying is VERY MUCH opinion based and in some cases not even true.
Firstly both of these laser enclosures are of the same size, which is fairly small by today's standards, but if you want a truly large area to work with then you have to spend many thousands on the CO2, while same coverage with diode will only cost a few hundred.

Secondly 10w diode laser is what it is- 10w and not a 5w laser working twice as hard. To get more specific it's actually two 5w lasers working in tandem to make a 10w ray.

Thirdly, you can definitely upgrade some of the most popular diode machines and you can even add diodes to a CNC machine.

The cost to maintain is also very different. CO2 requires liquid cooling and regular tube replacements that cost as much as a whole diode setup.

The bottom line is if you're on a budget then diode is the way to go. If you have thousands to spare and are looking to run a business then CO2 is king.

I think that making a blanket statement that CO2 machines are leagues ahead is like saying that a Ferrari is leagues ahead of the Camry. Sure it is, but what you're currently driving is just a Fiero dressed up in a Ferrari replica kit, so you may just as well get the Camry.

I'm not saying that you should buy this particular diode setup either. Personally I'll be buying a diode machine with the largest available work area and will build an enclosure myself.

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