Lenovo Legion 7i Desktop: i7-12700K, RTX 3080 10GB, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD Expired

I absolutely love building PCs, just built a sick 13600k/7900xt/tempest compact rig. I also know you are here to help people make the most of their money and I agree the system you spec'd is fantastic, possibly exactly what I would build at this price point. But I don't think it is realistic to tell people they "might as well" build their own system from scrach if they are looking for a prebuilt. I used to tell people it is like legos and not that hard but there is legit problem solving/technical knowledge needed to build and it isn't always as easy as watching a video and knocking it out.

For example, Thermal past application and CPU cooler install is actually pretty imposing, a youtube video will help a lot but there is a real risk of bent pins and performance risk of improper installation. Will most people be fine? Yep, but is there real risk to someone who just wanted a $1,600 system? Absolutely, especially for a first time ever build.

Also, the ram you listed (F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5) isn't listed as compatible with the mobo you listed. In most cases will they both work? yep, will it possibly limit the ram speed? yep. But if it doesn't work correctly, diagnosing that is difficult and fixing requires returning within 30 days at most retailers. And that isn't something most people even know to check or how. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherbo...ort-memsup

And newegg was listed for most of your parts, they have a history of bad customer service and limited support for open parts, not always, but sometimes. Not having a unified system warranty can also be a big deal and requires a ton more technical knowledge to diagnose and work with various OEMs for support if needed.

And I would personally include at least $25 for a semi legit windows key. Can you run windows without a key, yes with limitations that aren't on a prebuilt. Can you risk malware to get it free? yep. Can you get a $5-10 defo improperly used windows 10 key from ebay and upgrade to 11? Yes with some risk microsoft will revoke it and with time that you wouldn't have to spend on a prebuilt. But as someone who spent a lot of time, including on very suspicious bot reddit threds, trying to find an affordable legit copy, it is a bit disingenuous to leave it out entirely.

So risk, extra technical knowledge and an extra $50 for a system that will push mildly better frams in the shorterm but with better long term potential. I know I'd pick the self build but I don't think it is for everyone, certainly not the default choice.

People are saying this deal is bad because it is last gen CPU and GPU, but the problem is that you can't really find equivalent for less right now (this build uses all good parts, no proprietary garbage like the Alienware build from a few weeks ago). Also, an equivalent build with a 4080 and 13th gen CPU are running around $2500 right now.

Please, I beg of you, post these so called better deals that are to be had. Not claiming this one is super duper, but it is pretty good for what has been available.

.... is this as good as it getz??? I'm so tired of holding