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Last Edited by jersharocks | Staff April 7, 2023 at 11:11 AM
$49,990.00
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Model 3 RWD $41990
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990

$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3

Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.

https://www.tesla.com

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ArthurT4614
04-07-2023 at 08:19 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:19 PM.
People are seriously comparing Bolt to Tesla??

Bolt has faulty batteries that Chevy refuses to fix.

Good luck with that.
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w8803425
04-07-2023 at 08:19 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:19 PM.
Quote from Knightshade :
You do not understand it correctly.

Your paycheck deduction has nothing to do with the credit qualification at all

At the end of the year, based on your income, you will have some number that is the amount of tax you owe. This is NOT relevant to your paycheck deduction, that comes later. It's just "You earned X, you owe Y"

If you paid less than that amount via deductions, you owe more. If you paid more than that via payroll deductions you get a refund.

But the tax credit comes in BEFORE that step.

It reduces the amount you owe BEFORE they even look at what came out of your check.

As long as that # is $7500 (and it is if your taxable income was over $54,000 filing single, or about $65,000 filing jointly/married) then you get the full $7500 credit taken off.


THEN they look at your payroll deduction, and decide how much your refund (or still owing) is.

Being non-refundable only matters if you made so little income you didn't have $7500 in liability to begin with (and again, your payroll deductions have no relevance to that) in which case the credit would offset whatever amount of liability you DID have dollar for dollar.



Just to throw some easy #s in for an example.

Let's say you made exactly the taxable income needed to have $7500 in tax liability for the year.

And you had, say, $10,000 taken out of your paycheck via payroll deductions toward federal income tax.

In a normal year, with no tax credit to claim, you would get a refund for $2500. Which is the 10k they deducted, minus the $7500 you owe. $2500 refund.

WITH the tax credit, that goes against your original $7500 of liability. You now have $0 in liability.

NOW they look at the 10k deduction you had...and you get a refund of $10,000 since you owe net $0.

So again- the amount of your payroll deductions is irrelevant to being able to get the credit because they don't even look at that until after the credit was applied.
Thank you. A lot easier with your examples and explanation. Appreciate the reply.
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gtdeal
04-07-2023 at 08:19 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:19 PM.
Quote from collegebudget :
Do you have a link to more info on this?

It's true.
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cloudiett
04-07-2023 at 08:20 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:20 PM.
Quote from ArthurT4614 :
People are seriously comparing Bolt to Tesla??

Bolt has faulty batteries that Chevy refuses to fix.

Good luck with that.

What the fk are you talking about? They completely replaced my bolt with a bolt EUV. GM is way better than Tesla in terms of after sale.
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vash610
04-07-2023 at 08:20 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:20 PM.
Quote from w8803425 :
I talked to a CPA, this type of credit is non-refundable, as someone who doesn't have other income (like from stock investment) and with mortgage interests. I don't see a way that I can get this credit unless I deliberately don't pay tax in my paycheck. If I understand it correctly, non-refundable credit only brings your tax owe to 0, and it will not give you money back.
That's incorrect. It's non-refundable as in you can get back more than you owe in taxes. Just because you fell right at zero at tax season doesn't mean you don't "owe" any taxes. That just means what you put out during the year offset what you owe in taxes. You still owe taxes, it's just you already paid it. So you can still get the money back.
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ArthurT4614
04-07-2023 at 08:21 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:21 PM.
Quote from cloudiett :
What the fk are you talking about? They completely replaced my bolt with a bolt EUV. GM is way better than Tesla in terms of after sale.
Yeah they replaced with another one with the same faulty battery.

Good luck
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ArthurT4614
04-07-2023 at 08:23 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:23 PM.
Another reason why comparing Tesla to other EVs is not appropriate.

Tesla has its own charging network which is years ahead of everyone else combined.

On that reason alone, Tesla comes out ahead of everyone.

In fact, tesla comes out ahead on all top categories that are important to EVs.... charging network, efficiency, and batteries with longer proven history.

There is EVs and then there is Tesla.

There is a reason a model Y and Model 3 are some of the best selling cars out there and not just in EV category.
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Chlamber
04-07-2023 at 08:23 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:23 PM.
Quote from DC13 :
One of the worst and unethical companies who will sale you a car and leave you out to dry once they have your money. Avoid like your life depended on it. Because it does. Self-crashing garbage.

Unethical companies use monopolistic dealership models, car salesmen, "market adjustments", and processing fees. Tesla dropping vehicles by a few thousand dollars is in no way unethical.
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DC13
04-07-2023 at 08:26 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:26 PM.
Quote from ArthurT4614 :
People are seriously comparing Bolt to Tesla??

Bolt has faulty batteries that Chevy refuses to fix.

Good luck with that.

Are you slow? GM is literally fixing every single battery ever sold no matter how old it is and giving every owner a 10 year 100k warranty on the new battery. Tesla won't replace anything if it isn't fixed with a software update. GM is doing right by customers and Tesla customers are getting reemed with horrible service, endless cost cutting and honestly one of the ugliest cars on the road. Blinded by the hype.
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Knightshade
04-07-2023 at 08:26 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:26 PM.
Quote from MordyNYC :
Test drove mid Model 3 in Santa Nutica l.a. bottomed it on the first dip. Stupid heavy cars so the suspension works like a 20$ RC car you bought from toys r us back in the day. My 2005 Subaru out handles it and drives better.
Curb weight on a model 3 varies from ~3650 to ~4250 depending on trim.

Subarus EV (the Solterra) is a hundreds of pounds heavier at 4365-4505...while still offering vastly inferior range and performance to the Tesla.



Quote from manubatham20 :
I don't know about those surveys
That why they are useful.

They present the facts on the brand as a whole rather than "one anecdotal story from a guy"

Tesla owners, as a whole, are more satisfied with their cars than any other brand.


Quote from manubatham20 :
I do
, but as 2021 Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD owner, I will say Quality is not satisfactory,
Why did you accept delivery of a car you weren't satisfied with?


Quote from manubatham20 :
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and range Anxiety is real.

Range anxiety isn't real unless you're routinely driving 5-10x more miles a day than the average driver, or you're also anxious about being hit by meteors.




Quote from SmartHaddock3847 :
Rivian is the future. Tesla is like the Pinto of EVs.

LOL.

Rivian lost 6.8 billion dollars last year... and still only managed to deliver a little under 8000 trucks in Q1 of this year (which is about how many Tesla delivered in under 48 hours the same quarter).... and sells their trucks for less than it costs them to make them.


They're legitimately nice trucks but there's a very real chance they won't even be in business in a few years- they've done a horrible job with the actual "running a business" part of having a car company.
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ArthurT4614
04-07-2023 at 08:29 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:29 PM.
Quote from DC13 :
Are you slow? GM is literally fixing every single battery ever sold no matter how old it is and giving every owner a 10 year 100k warranty on the new battery. Tesla won't replace anything if it isn't fixed with a software update. GM is doing right by customers and Tesla customers are getting reemed with horrible service, endless cost cutting and honestly one of the ugliest cars on the road. Blinded by the hype.
The only one slow is you.

The fix isnt in the battery. They are literally replacing it with same faulty battery.

Enjoy the cycle

Good luck

You are applauding a company selling you faulty batteries and then instead of fixing whats wrong with the battery itself, giving you another battery of the same. What went wrong with your first battery is going to go wrong with you replacement battery.

Dumbo lol
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DC13
04-07-2023 at 08:30 PM.

Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank DC13

04-07-2023 at 08:30 PM.
Quote from Chlamber :
Unethical companies use monopolistic dealership models, car salesmen, "market adjustments", and processing fees. Tesla dropping vehicles by a few thousand dollars is in no way unethical.

They drop prices because their stock price is based on hype. If they don't sale out their stock is going the same way as Peloton. House of cards. People were bragging about self driving cars and now that it's clearly not happening they want to be a car company again. Elon the other day came out with a 14T dollar plan to convert the entire earth to renewables. LOL it never ends with the bigger and bigger hype lies. Where are the car subways underground? Where is self driving? Where are 4680 batteries that are more powerful and efficient?

They are lowering prices because nobody wants a Tesla. It's embarrassing to be associated with this brand. Tint your windows to not be seen in one.
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scraejtp
04-07-2023 at 08:30 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:30 PM.
Quote from gtdeal :
Tesla is very safe and shouldn't cost more to insure. It's no more than an internal combustion car.
It is not the safety, it is that the car is less repairable than most other manufacturers and ICE vehicles. The battery is more easily damaged and a black box diagnostically which means the whole thing is replaced even with minor damage.

Lots of articles about the issue.
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Alpap
04-07-2023 at 08:31 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:31 PM.
Quote from gooruma :
I bought a Tesla and most Tesla buyers don't tell the truth about EVs. YouTubers say only good things about them and they don't tell the truth.EVs are really fun to drive and faster than any other vehicle I drove. Technology is good too. But, 1. Phantom drain 1-5% battery drain per day just like any smartphone. You don't lose gas when an ice vehicle is parked. This is really bad when you forget to charge and you park your car at the airport or family or friend's home, where every mile counts. If you use sentry mode, you can lose 10+% per day. 2. Glass top really gets hot and you need to have the AC running while the EV is parked, which uses the battery a lot. 3. In the winter, the battery loses the range a lot. 4. You will have the charger connected all the time because of 1 2 and 3. Once you buy an EV, you will know. So, is it really saving money when it's plugged in all the time? And super charger is expensive.. same price as gasoline. 5. When you travel with an EV, expect to add at least 1 hr time to 3-4 hr trip for charging and getting to the charger. If you really want an EV, buy also an ICE vehicle.
1. Not true - unless you set your car to do some function when parked
2. Ice cars don't get hot from the sun? AC needs gas to run
3. Depends your location, mild winter about 5%
4. Nope
3. Not true - at least in Texas that I live
5. if you never stop for break maybe slight delay, you are exaggerating
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Knightshade
04-07-2023 at 08:31 PM.
04-07-2023 at 08:31 PM.
Quote from DC13 :
Tesla won't replace anything if it isn't fixed with a software update.
Can you cite some examples of recalled parts requiring physical replacement that Tesla refuses to do?

No?

Weird claim then.
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