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Model 3 RWD $41990
Model 3 Performance Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD $49990
Model Y LR Dual Motor AWD $52990
Model Y Performance Dual Motor AWD $56990

$5K off for Model S/X
$2K off for Model Y
$1K off for Model 3

Also, Model Y SR Dual Motor AWD can be customized for order.

https://www.tesla.com

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manku
04-10-2023 at 10:35 AM.
04-10-2023 at 10:35 AM.
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Toyota is one of the biggest opponents to EV. The CEO said publicly that he doesn't believe in EV and was not going to invest in it, until he had to 😂

They've had the technology for decades and never developed it fully. It was just for show to appease the fakers
I still don't understand why Toyota doesn't make more of the Hybrids...go into any dealership, even pre-covid, and the hybrids or models with actual battery range were always in very limited supply despite the obvious demand.
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chasemyaccord
04-10-2023 at 10:47 AM.
04-10-2023 at 10:47 AM.
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Old s4 6sp? Ive driven several audis for extended periods of time, they are super front heavy and understeer like crazy. Theres so many other cars id get in a six speed before them.
From what I hear, the B8 & B8.5 are fine if you have the differential option. But what other cars do you have in mind? This actually wouldn't be a long term car (1-2 years) so I am looking for something that won't depreciate too much but I can still have a little fun with. I probably won't even drive it that much as our main family vehicle will be the Y. Mostly will be getting back and forth from work, which is a short eight mile drive on local roads.
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CellistThin
04-10-2023 at 11:09 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:09 AM.
Has anyone had any luck getting price match for deliveries taken within 7 days before price decreased?
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stealthytolkien
04-10-2023 at 11:18 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:18 AM.
Just wanted to add my perspective. I have been using my 2019 Model 3 - Standard Range Plus - Rear Wheel Drive model for about 4 years now and here are my pros and cons observed:

Pros:

1) For me, personally, with the rebates (and price matches), I paid about $35,000 for this car (cash payment). Someone hit my bumper and it had to be replaced (thankfully no damage to the frame) that led to them paying me $5000 for diminished value and this "bump" did not appear on the Carfax, so effectively $30,000 was what I paid for the car but even at $35,000, this was by far the most affordable EV I could have bought. Finding a $35,000 new EV today is out of the question.

2) Drives really well for a RWD car. Snow tires are a must for areas that do get a lot of snow and have hilly climbs and drops but so far I have spent $0 in repairs except for replacing the bumper.

3) Generally low maintenance

4) The speakers, even if they the base model speakers, are fantastic. In-car entertainment is decent

5) If you have home charging - this boosts the use case for an EV ten times IMHO.

Cons:

1) In-car entertainment system can be more refined - e.g. there is no search feature for songs on my USB drive. There is no way to set a DEFAULT source for music every time you get into the car. E.g. I do not use anything other than USB but I cannot set it as default.

2) Build quality, while very good, can be a hit or miss - but that has been said a million times

3) Availability of service appointments and parts can be bad if you need them urgently

4) Model 3 can be a bit too small if you are generally a bigger person (or taller than 6'2'') for super long trips.

5) Prices today for these cars are absurd despite these price cuts.
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AquaGalley3902
04-10-2023 at 11:30 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:30 AM.
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Except, wait....some people might actually care what their car looks like???

Yes, i guess so are just so above all of us, huh, not caring what kind of car you drive at all. Good for you.

Edit: I am not crazy about the looks of a Tesla either. I get it, it's polarizing. There are some people who love it and some who don't. But at least it's not a Bolt. Don't get me wrong, a Bolt has its place and purpose. A good-looking stylish car, it is NOT. I think every non-Bolt owner (and probably many Bolt owners) will agree to that. I think if you are in a professional building parking lot, being seen walking out of a Bolt would be downright an embarrassment. Ok, some of you are above looks and materialism, good for you. The rest of the world doesn't operate that way. You can potentially find the president of a company drive a Tesla, but you are not going to find one driving a Bolt. Not the president of a real company with 50+ employees (unless he/she is so big and rich he is doing it just to prove a point like Bill Gates). Let's be real hear.

Comparing a Bolt to a Tesla has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. They both have their merits and their weak points, but they are COMPLETELY different types of cars for different target audiences. It's like comparing a Bolt to a golf cart. Both do their jobs well, just meant for different purposes. So stop with the stupid comparisons.
And warren buffett Drives what car??
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babygdav
04-10-2023 at 11:31 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:31 AM.
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EV is not worth it.
U pay more tire, insurance and fast chargers are expensive. Repair can cost more than half of new car.
AND, EV cars are so expensive and complex to repair after accidents that many EVs are declared "total losses" even after minor accidents.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news...s-expense/

Just think - 40+ cameras and sensors on a Tesla, a handful alone that need to be replaced and recalibrated in a bumper bash. $$$$
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babygdav
04-10-2023 at 11:41 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:41 AM.
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Once again people not understanding that a big part of Tesla's profit margins come from their manufacturing and vertical integration, while other EV manufactures are either selling theirs with very low margins or at a loss.

Say it with me...manufacturing costs.

it is amazing that we have all these folks that have never driven a Tesla, or owned one, and have not even researched what the company is doing yet they are self appointed expert.
Huh??
Tesla was known for horrible manufacturing design - much more inefficient than established makers.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/...efficiency
Even the SAE magazine reported on inefficiencies upon teardown of early models.

Merely catching up to the levels of efficiency big brands used to be isn't amazing. And moving forward, all the brands are increasing manufacturing efficiency, so no sum game.

As for profit, no issues with that when the Big boys jump in.
https://carbuzz.com/news/f-150-li...n-3-months
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NSTar
04-10-2023 at 11:42 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:42 AM.
I'm waiting for the Mercedes Electricute to come out.
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babygdav
04-10-2023 at 11:43 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:43 AM.
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Got any reference of this? I've only seen Tesla spontaneously combust but it can easily happen to ant battery car.
https://www.thestreet.com/electri...extinguish

Many other examples....
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Knightshade
04-10-2023 at 11:46 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:46 AM.
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AND, EV cars are so expensive and complex to repair after accidents that many EVs are declared "total losses" even after minor accidents.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news...s-expense/

From your link

Quote :
Reuters looked at recent salvage auction listings and found that the "vast majority" of the 120 Model Y vehicles listed had less than 10,000 miles on them
Oooh... a "majority" of 120 cars.

From a car model they've sold well over 1,000,000 of...

Sounds like a SUPER COMMON issue...

No, wait... the opposite of that....





Quote from babygdav View quoted comment :
https://www.thestreet.com/electri...extinguish

Many other examples....

Know what's awesome about your link?

You clearly didn't bother to read it.

Because it confirms what you were told earlier- here, let me quote:

Quote from YOUR source :
Electric vehicles catch fire at a significantly rarer rate than their internal combustion counterparts
Keep re-reading that till you actually understand it Big Grin
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04-10-2023 at 11:49 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:49 AM.
Quote from babygdav View quoted comment :
Huh??
Tesla was known for horrible manufacturing design - much more inefficient than established makers.
Uh...no. They are REALLY not. Just the opposite. Their profit margins, largely on the back of vastly more efficient design and manufacturing, are 2-3 times better than the best margins in legacy auto

Your link for this was almost 5 years old, and 4 factories ago for Tesla.


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As for profit, no issues with that when the Big boys jump in.
https://carbuzz.com/news/f-150-li...n-3-months
Fords profit for all of 2022 was...negative 2 billion dollars. They LOST 2 billion.

Teslas net profits for all of 2022 was... 12.583 billion dollars.

And Tesla sold fewer cars to do it too.

Also, "big boy" ford in 2022 sold 61,575 EVs total. Tesla sold north of 1.3 million of them. Ford don't seem very "big" here.


Your posts continue to be insanely factually wrong
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redman4x4
04-10-2023 at 11:54 AM.
04-10-2023 at 11:54 AM.
Quote from babygdav View quoted comment :
https://www.thestreet.com/electri...extinguish

Many other examples....

So you have convinced me that no electric car is a good car. Thanks!!!
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ArthurT4614
04-10-2023 at 12:02 PM.
04-10-2023 at 12:02 PM.
Quote from babygdav View quoted comment :
Huh??
Tesla was known for horrible manufacturing design - much more inefficient than established makers.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/...efficiency
Even the SAE magazine reported on inefficiencies upon teardown of early models.

Merely catching up to the levels of efficiency big brands used to be isn't amazing. And moving forward, all the brands are increasing manufacturing efficiency, so no sum game.

As for profit, no issues with that when the Big boys jump in.
https://carbuzz.com/news/f-150-li...n-3-months
Hello. Welcome to 2023.

Let me know when you have caught up to current events.

https://www.reuters.com/business/...023-01-19/

" To control production costs, Tesla has invested heavily in new manufacturing technology - such as the use of large castings to replace small metal parts. Tesla brought battery manufacturing and other parts of its supply chain in-house, and standardized vehicle designs to improve economies of scale.

Using production-cost advantages to fund price cuts has a long history in the auto industry.

Henry Ford slashed prices on his Model T in the early 20th Century as his innovative mass-production system revved up. During the 1980s and 1990s, Toyota used the cost lead provided by its lean production system to offer features at prices Detroit automakers struggled to match. Now, Toyota is rebooting its strategy under pressure from Tesla."


https://fourweekmba.com/tesla-pro...n-per-car/

" Telsa's profit margins moved from negative 3.15% in 2019 to over 15% in 2022. As Tesla scaled up manufacturing and improved its economies of scale (with new facilities) and scope, the company became extremely profitable by 2022."
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George_P_Burdell
04-10-2023 at 12:04 PM.
04-10-2023 at 12:04 PM.
Quote from Knightshade View quoted comment :
Nope. It also has to have a certain % of the battery come from either the US or a country we have certain trade agreements with-- that part of the requirement is what kicks in April 18th.

So a lot of non-Tesla EVs are having their credit cut to $3750 on that date (the Mach E and Bolt for example). For Tesla the only thing impacted is the RWD Model 3 since it uses LFP cells from CATL in China... all other trims of the 3 and Y use 2170 or 4680 cells, all made in the US.





Well- no....

For one- your link is about a roadtrip... 99% of driving is local- and you just charge at home and don't care about fast chargers in the first place.

For the 1% of driving that IS very long trips what your link describes is only representative of NON TESLA EV ownership- because Teslas fast charging network is massive, quick, and incredibly reliable





No.

4/18 doesn't change anything for anybody with Tesla except buyers of the RWD Model 3 config specifically- for them it drops to $3750. For everyone else- no change.






Actually your Tesla does A for you- automatically integrating charging stops if your destination is beyond the cars current range, and even pre-heating the battery for faster charging before you get there.

And other than once, over Thanksgiving, I've never had to wait to use a supercharger....even then it was only ~10 minutes because cars don't tend to need to stop longer than 10-15 minutes with Tesla charging speeds these days.




On the other hand, for the 99% of your life you are NOT on a road trip, it's massively more convenient just charging at home while you sleep and never having to waste time 1-2 times a week stopping at gas stations.

NET time "wasted" fueling your vehicle over any long period is MUCH higher with a gas car than an EV.







First- the car doesn't have ordinary cruise control.... second, ultrasonics primarily a PARKING sensor- and pretty useless for DRIVING.... because their range is only a little over 20 feet. Unless you're only doing like 5 mph you'd hit anything before the sensor noticed it was there.






I mean, it's literally the safest car on the road, but it's your lie, tell it however you want...





Actually they are involved in vastly fewer accidents than the average vehicle

For example in Q4 2022 a Tesla using autopilot crashed once every 4.85 million miles.

The national average for all cars is one crash every 652,000 miles.

So roughly 7.4 times more likely to be in a crash in a NON Tesla than a Tesla on autopilot.



Actually EVs are 10-100 times less likely to catch on fire than gasoline cars.


https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/go...-than-evs/




That's a weird claim given how massively Tesla is outselling them.

It's almost like people prefer the vastly safer, vastly better performing, vastly better charging network, vehicle over one that refreshed the bumpers more often or something.






Of course you don't. Thanks for debunking yourself LMAO
Of course. I gotta have a Radar but Elon doesn't believe in it.
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04-10-2023 at 12:26 PM.
04-10-2023 at 12:26 PM.
Still can't order an M3 LR? At this point, we're waiting on the potential late 2023 "redesign" update of the M3. Hopefully, the LR will be available immediately.
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