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Canon Refurbished Lenses & Cameras: EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM $199, EOS RP Body
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RF 16mm f/2.8 STM @ $179.00 --- Great compact prime for RF system, very fair price. If you have zooms that are 24+, then you'll appreciate the little bit of extra width w/ solid quality this gives at a bargain price.
RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM @ $399.00 --- Normally on sale for $550. Very quick to focus, very quiet, very stabilized lens with 5.5 stops of IS. Combine that with an IBIS-capable body, it's pretty good at this price point....even when factoring the horrible f/8 aperture. Pair this with an APS-C body (like the R7 w/ IBIS), and you'll get effective 640mm reach on a budget. A similar competitor is the Sigma 150-600mm, which goes on sale once or twice a year a $700.
EOS RP @ $599.00 --- I'm hesitant to suggest this, unless price is your only consideration. The R10 is $900-ish, the R8 replacement to the RP is $1500 and utterly blows this camera out of the water. But if max price is your only concern and you must have mirrorless, then it's not a terrible option. It was $600 in the 2022 holiday sale (w/ camera sling bag + grip extension), but the R8 wasn't announced yet. I personally feel this should be $100-200 cheaper given how many options are out there now.
EF 11-24mm f/4L USM @ $1699.00 --- Ok, this is NOT a budget option. But this is a pro-tier super-ultra-wide that has precious little distortion. If you do indoors work like architectural or real estate, this is your secret weapon. Your ace up your sleeve. You'll make this $1700 back in no time. Few wide lenses come close to this quality, and not really at this price point.
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$220 RF 24-105mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$400 RF 100-400mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$120 RF 50mm/1.8 -- nifty fifty (https://www.usa.canon.c
$600 RP Body (https://www.usa.canon.c
You'll get a very inexpensive (if slightly aging) full-frame body that's still regarded as pretty good.
The cons: you're giving up faster/stickier AF, faster burst rates, better video, and better low-light performance compared to the newer R8 @ $1500 (same form factor, full-frame). But at $900 less, only you can determine if any of that is a deal-breaker.
And in the future, you can upgrade to the R8 and all of the above lenses will be compatible. You can keep the RP body, or sell it. I don't have a crystal ball, but you may get $400-500 for it. Offsetting the price of the (then discounted?) R8....and you've used a nice RP all this time for a mere $100-200 cost. You can't rent a camera body for $50/year.
And you'll have two silent, quick focusing lenses -- the long of which uses Canon's nano-USM motor system. They're not "fast" optically at f/7.1 and f/8, but the aggressive on-lens IS helps eliminate handheld shake. Covering the range of 24mm to 400mm (same reach as buying 15mm-250mm labeled lenses for APS-C).
You'll have immense flexibility with these two lenses, as it covers everything from a fairly wide to telephoto. The 24-105 isn't too heavy to daily carry.
For anything needing better optical performance, you have a 50mm/1.8 (actual 50mm on a full frame, not a 50mm on a APS-C which is more like 80mm).
As time goes on, you can get a Canon EF-to-RF adapter and use any of the many awesome EF full-frame lenses that have been released since 1987, from Canon and countless other vendors. There are some real bargains and real amazing lenses to be had out there, and they'll be almost always 100% compatible with this setup.
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Other things you'll need:
1-2x additional batteries (only buy first-party canon). The RP tends to be a battery hog.
Third-party lens hood (Vello) for each lens. I strongly recommend against UV/protection filters, as they give serious ghosting/reflections from external light sources. Even expensive $70+ multicoated B+W filters are susceptible to it -- I know this personally, I've sunk more money into these pieces of glass just to ruin the image from the top tier lens I just bought. A lens hood is plenty of protection for normal use.
Camera bag of some sort (lowepro or ruggard are considered good brands, but it's highly personal).
At least 2x memory cards (about $30-40 for a v60 128gb SD, buy name-brands like Sandisk, Sony, Kingston, ProGrade, etc).
I'd also argue to get a better neckstrap, but that's a highly personal choice. Popular options are BlackRapid, Peak Design, ThinkTank, and Domke.
*Update, called Canon and they're issuing a refund. Super easy process and they are always very helpful and friendly.
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Don't get me wrong - I love my RP and have considered a 2nd just so I'm not always needing to swap out lenses! But anytime over 50mm and a couple pounds (adapter EF lenses) is pretty tough to hold and use on an RP.
This might be a very limited problem (the lenses I'm referring to are the canon EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS, sigma 85mm 1.4 art, 105mm 1.4art and Canon 135 EF F2L which are pretty big lenses), but I've had very very limited luck with them on an RP body, so I keep my 6D around for them.
The RP is great with my sigma 20mm 1.4, 24mm 1.4, 35mm 1.4, 50mm 1.4, and even the heavy 14-24 2.8.. but the other lenses push it a bit over the edge and holding it by the lens doesn't fix the problem for me
edit: I'll also say that I tend to use the LCD screen for focusing and framing opposed to the evf
Personally, I feel a lens Hood designed for your lens will do much more than the UV filter. The only time I really recommend on is when using a lens in harsh outdoor conditions like rain or sand where the lens elements could get easily damaged.
you're basically putting a cheap piece of glass in front of your expensive lens glass. In a lot of night photography when I was using them, I'd get mirror/ghost reflections of light sources.
RF 16mm f/2.8 STM @ $179.00 --- Great compact prime for RF system, very fair price. If you have zooms that are 24+, then you'll appreciate the little bit of extra width w/ solid quality this gives at a bargain price.
RF 100-400mm f/5.6-8 IS USM @ $399.00 --- Normally on sale for $550. Very quick to focus, very quiet, very stabilized lens with 5.5 stops of IS. Combine that with an IBIS-capable body, it's pretty good at this price point....even when factoring the horrible f/8 aperture. Pair this with an APS-C body (like the R7 w/ IBIS), and you'll get effective 640mm reach on a budget. A similar competitor is the Sigma 150-600mm, which goes on sale once or twice a year a $700.
EOS 5D Mark IV @ $1499.00 --- Date the body, marry the lens. This is one of those bodies that'll go down as a classic. Built like a tank, loaded with features. Not video-focused, but for stills, you'll be hard-pressed to find a better bang for the buck. Especially at this price. DSLRs are slowly becoming antiquated due to the advances in mirrorless tech, so keep that in mind.
EOS RP @ $599.00 --- I'm hesitant to suggest this, unless price is your only consideration. The R10 is $900-ish, the R8 replacement to the RP is $1500 and utterly blows this camera out of the water. But if max price is your only concern and you must have mirrorless, then it's not a terrible option. It was $600 in the 2022 holiday sale (w/ camera sling bag + grip extension), but the R8 wasn't announced yet. I personally feel this should be $100-200 cheaper given how many options are out there now.
EF 11-24mm f/4L USM @ $1699.00 --- Marry this lens. Ok, this is NOT a budget option. But this is a pro-tier super-ultra-wide that has precious little distortion. If you do indoors work like architectural or real estate, this is your secret weapon. Your ace up your sleeve. You'll make this $1700 back in no time. Few wide lenses come close to this quality, and not really at this price point.
get the 17-55mm 2.8 IS, its the gold lens for EFS cameras and for perfect expo shooting .
$300-400 certified used with 6 month warranty at KEH,MPB,UsedCameraPro
The 50mm is actual 75mm, more of an outdoor lens
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$220 RF 24-105mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$400 RF 100-400mm (https://www.usa.canon.c
$120 RF 50mm/1.8 -- nifty fifty (https://www.usa.canon.c
$600 RP Body (https://www.usa.canon.c
You'll get a very inexpensive (if slightly aging) full-frame body that's still regarded as pretty good.
The cons: you're giving up faster/stickier AF, faster burst rates, better video, and better low-light performance compared to the newer R8 @ $1500 (same form factor, full-frame). But at $900 less, only you can determine if any of that is a deal-breaker.
And you'll ahve two ultra silent, quick focusing lenses -- the long of which uses Canon's nano-USM motor system. They're not "fast" optically at f/7.1 and f/8, but the aggressive on-lens IS helps eliminate handheld shake. Covering the range of 24mm to 400mm (same reach as buying 15mm-250mm labeled lenses for APS-C).
You'll have immense flexibility with these two lenses, as it covers everything from a fairly wide to telephoto. The 24-105 isn't too heavy to daily carry.
For anything needing better optical performance, you have a 50mm/1.8 (actual 50mm on a full frame, not a 50mm on a APS-C which is more like 80mm).
As time goes on, you can get a Canon EF-to-RF adapter and use any of the many awesome EF full-frame lenses that have been released since 1987, from Canon and countless other vendors. There are some real bargains and real amazing lenses to be had out there, and they'll be almost always 100% compatible with this setup.
[avoid EF-S and M lenses, as the former will incur a 1.6x crop factor w/ severe loss of resolution and the latter is entirely incompatible]
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Other things you'll need:
1-2x additional batteries (only buy first-party canon). The RP tends to be a battery hog.
Some sort of UV/protection filter for each lens.
Third-party lens hood (Vello) for each lens.
Camera bag of some sort (lowepro or ruggard are considered good brands).
At least 2x memory cards (about $30-40 for a v60 128gb SD, buy name-brands like Sandisk, Sony, Kingston, ProGrade, etc).
I'd also argue to get a better neckstrap, but that's a highly personal choice. Popular higher end options are BlackRapid and Peak Design.
For everyone waiting to start photography without spending big bucks on mirrorless. Tight budget of $200-1000.
Canon DSLR Classic
$200 Canon SL2/T6i Camera body 21MP
$100 Canon 50mm EF 1.8 Prime (Basic)
$300 Canon 17-55mm EFS 2.8 IS (Pro quality)
$200 Canon 18-135 EFS IS (Travel)
Certified Used with 6 month warranty at keh,mpd,usedlenpro.
Spare battery isnt needed if your shooting under 500 shots on jpeg.
Most DSLR take up to 2500 jpeg shots on one charge
Nikon DSLR Classic
$100 Nikon D3200/D3300 24MP Camera body
$100 Nikon 35mm DX 1.8 Prime (Basic)
$200 Nikon 18-140mm DX VR (Travel)
$300 Nikon 17-55mm DX 2.8 (Pro Quality)
$200 Nikon 70-300mm VR (Daylight Sports)
Need
$10 64gb SD card (Sandisk Pro/Samsung Pro)
$20-40 Pro Flash or LED, Natural lights (The most important)
The starter kit for R10 comes with the 18-45mm lens, but it seems like the 18-150mm is better for daily use and variety of shots. Looking to use this as a starter camera for daily shots, travel, landscape, wildlife, etc.
Is there a good lens in this sale that would fit that bill? I like he idea of 18-150 being a good all around lens so don't need to carry around a bunch. I'm seeing R10 bundle with 18-150 at 1279 on most sites. Is this worth it or can I get a similar build from this sale?
The starter kit for R10 comes with the 18-45mm lens, but it seems like the 18-150mm is better for daily use and variety of shots. Looking to use this as a starter camera for daily shots, travel, landscape, wildlife, etc.
Is there a good lens in this sale that would fit that bill? I like he idea of 18-150 being a good all around lens so don't need to carry around a bunch. I'm seeing R10 bundle with 18-150 at 1279 on most sites. Is this worth it or can I get a similar build from this sale?
New R10 vs Refurbished RP, I'd get the RP
Just my 2c
If you want to just carry one camera and one lens, get the refurbished RP and this lens
https://www.usa.canon.c
You will get "some" fisheye but center will be sharp and it a L lens
New R10 vs Refurbished RP, I'd get the RP
Just my 2c
If you want to just carry one camera and one lens, get the refurbished RP and this lens
https://www.usa.canon.c
You will get "some" fisheye but center will be sharp and it a L lens
14-35 is the best wide angle made in my opinion. If you want a shot and don't want to back up 20 feet, this will get the shot every time.
https://kenrockwell.com/canon/eos...4-35mm.htm
If you look at the picture of the red chairs, you can see he got the picture from up close, but you do notice some fisheye ... if that bothers you then this is not the lens for you.
The 24-105 is nice, but if you won't be taking any zoom shots a lot, then it's not worth carrying the extra size if you ask me.
Here's the review for the other one
https://www.kenrockwell
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For everyone waiting to start photography without spending big bucks on mirrorless. Tight budget of $200-1000.
Canon DSLR Classic
$200 Canon SL2/T6i Camera body 21MP
$100 Canon 50mm EF 1.8 Prime (Basic)
$300 Canon 17-55mm EFS 2.8 IS (Pro quality)
$200 Canon 18-135 EFS IS (Travel)
Certified Used with 6 month warranty at keh,mpd,usedlenpro.
Spare battery isnt needed if your shooting under 500 shots on jpeg.
Most DSLR take up to 2500 jpeg shots on one charge
Nikon DSLR Classic
$100 Nikon D3200/D3300 24MP Camera body
$100 Nikon 35mm DX 1.8 Prime (Basic)
$200 Nikon 18-140mm DX VR (Travel)
$300 Nikon 17-55mm DX 2.8 (Pro Quality)
$200 Nikon 70-300mm VR (Daylight Sports)
Need
$10 64gb SD card (Sandisk Pro/Samsung Pro)
$20-40 Pro Flash or LED, Natural lights (The most important)
The closest is the newly released R50, and I can't say with a straight face that that camera would be half as enjoyable to use. And it's $679 -- not $400, so -shrug-.
You're giving very lovely recommendations for some rather aging APS-C DSLR tech. Almost all of which the RP will blast out of the water in terms of autofocus, ISO, video, and image quality. You're getting many years of quality-of-life improvements + full frame by going with mirrorless.
Overall value proposition, the industry is shifting to mirrorless. I'd be very hesitant in getting a DSLR unless it was for a specific purpose -- beginner "beater" camera, inexpensive break-glass-in-case-of-emergency spare body, getting a top tier pro model (1Dx-series) on the dirt cheap, etc.
There are a lot of EF lenses out there that are great, and they can be adapted easily. But in terms of lightness, ease-of-use, etc....going straight to a $220 RF 24-105 glass for daily use isn't a bad decision. It's a lens that'll live on the camera except for telephoto instances. It's light, has very fast focus response times, and doesn't need a $100 adapter.
Your EF-S recommendations are for APS-C, and can't be effectively adapted to a Full Frame RP. I'm not saying they're bad lenses, but they're not full frame. They'll be handy on the $800-ish R10 or the $1500 R7.
DSLRs are larger and heavier than the RP. They have larger batteries, and they don't run a screen all the time -- so of course you'll get a longer run time on a charge. It's a tradeoff with mirrorless.
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I guess my point is, the SL2 with a 17-55mm isn't a bad camera by any means, but a newcomer isn't going to get the same enjoyment out of it than a mirrorless w/ better performance + a strong and light walkaround lens is going to give.
They'll play with it for a spell, but unless it really captures their attention, it'll sit in its bag in the closet -- all because it just doesn't do that much for them that their cell phone can't already do.
$600 RP + $220 24-105 + $100 in accessories = $920 for a camera that'll do an excellent job for many years to come. Sometimes you do get more when you spend more.
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New R10 vs Refurbished RP, I'd get the RP
Just my 2c
If you want to just carry one camera and one lens, get the refurbished RP and this lens
Most people cell phones tend to favor the wide-end, so they're spending $1600 (body + lens) on something that "my phone already does this. maybe not as good, but eh I already own it and it fits in my pocket...."
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