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Apr 24, 2023 8:36 PM
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trulyblest1Apr 24, 2023 8:36 PM
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As someone who helps people find their biological families using their dna matches. I'm making a suggestion that you test at ancestry 1st. You can then upload for free to myheritage and family tree dna aka FTDNA. Tomorrow is National dna day & you should be able to buy ancestry for $59, starting tomorrow. Smarter way to spend your money. HTH someone!
Apr 24, 2023 8:43 PM
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landen118Apr 24, 2023 8:43 PM
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Quote from trulyblest1 :
As someone who helps people find their biological families using their dna matches. I'm making a suggestion that you test at ancestry 1st. You can then upload for free to myheritage and family tree dna aka FTDNA. Tomorrow is National dna day & you should be able to buy ancestry for $59, starting tomorrow. Smarter way to spend your money. HTH someone!
Good information for those looking to use a test for those reasons, thanks for sharing.
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Quote from trulyblest1 :
As someone who helps people find their biological families using their dna matches. I'm making a suggestion that you test at ancestry 1st. You can then upload for free to myheritage and family tree dna aka FTDNA. Tomorrow is National dna day & you should be able to buy ancestry for $59, starting tomorrow. Smarter way to spend your money. HTH someone!
Thank you for this info!
Apr 24, 2023 11:37 PM
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Ride_The_SkyApr 24, 2023 11:37 PM
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Do people actually find family using this? Aren't these more for background information so you can see where your DNA is from, and find out that they just put bunch of areas?

I remember even twins getting different background information for some reason which kinda made me question these tests. Has anyone ever tried taking these more than once to see how accurate they are?
Apr 25, 2023 3:13 AM
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TAGcaverApr 25, 2023 3:13 AM
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Quote from Ride_The_Sky :
Do people actually find family using this?
Yes, they are excellent for that purpose and highly accurate.
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Aren't these more for background information so you can see where your DNA is from, and find out that they just put bunch of areas?
No, they aren't primarily for that, it is just a little icing or distraction, but it is true that many people buy them only for that icing/distraction. And no, they don't just put areas, it is very careful and scientific, but the ethnicity things are an estimate nonetheless (and are always stated as such), and the estimate can change over time as they gather new information and get more accurate. But even with improved methods and more data to compare to, ethnicity estimates will always be open to different interpretations. For example, what does it mean to say someone's DNA is 35% French? As compared to what moment in time? Present day? 200 years ago? 500 years ago? 1,000 years ago? Populations have shifted so much over the centuries everywhere.
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I remember even twins getting different background information for some reason which kinda made me question these tests.
This is an annoyingly popular myth that clueless reporters and news sites created. Many people who think they are identical twins are not, they are just very similar fraternal twins, no closer than normal siblings. Sibling's DNA (and therefore their ethnicity estimates) varies because they inherit different percentages from their parents.
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Has anyone ever tried taking these more than once to see how accurate they are?
Tons of people have, and they are usually pretty close. Out of the 30+ people's tests that I manage, I have retested 5 people (myself, my wife, my parents, my wife's mom) just to have the newer versions when they came out. Each of them were done with new unconnected accounts and generic names until after all results were in, and all 5 of them came back within a few small percentage points of every population as compared to their version 1 tests for those same people. Like my version 1 might be 47% country A, 24% country B, 15% C, etc., and my version 2 is 46% A, 27% B, 14% C, etc. Still an estimate, but not bad!

But like I said at the beginning, the primary strength of these tests is in precise DNA matching with your cousins who have also tested, including close and very distant unknown cousins. You can compare trees, figure out how you're related, and use that info to figure out how you're related to still more further out cousins, and eventually all of this forms a pattern that confirms or denies each of your genealogical branches, and can help add new branches you didn't know about if you put the work into it. I could go on about other methods and uses, but this is far too long already. Smilie
Apr 25, 2023 6:48 AM
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TigressCatApr 25, 2023 6:48 AM
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Quote from TAGcaver :
Yes, they are excellent for that purpose and highly accurate.
No, they aren't primarily for that, it is just a little icing or distraction, but it is true that many people buy them only for that icing/distraction. And no, they don't just put areas, it is very careful and scientific, but the ethnicity things are an estimate nonetheless (and are always stated as such), and the estimate can change over time as they gather new information and get more accurate. But even with improved methods and more data to compare to, ethnicity estimates will always be open to different interpretations. For example, what does it mean to say someone's DNA is 35% French? As compared to what moment in time? Present day? 200 years ago? 500 years ago? 1,000 years ago? Populations have shifted so much over the centuries everywhere.
This is an annoyingly popular myth that clueless reporters and news sites created. Many people who think they are identical twins are not, they are just very similar fraternal twins, no closer than normal siblings. Sibling's DNA (and therefore their ethnicity estimates) varies because they inherit different percentages from their parents.
Tons of people have, and they are usually pretty close. Out of the 30+ people's tests that I manage, I have retested 5 people (myself, my wife, my parents, my wife's mom) just to have the newer versions when they came out. Each of them were done with new unconnected accounts and generic names until after all results were in, and all 5 of them came back within a few small percentage points of every population as compared to their version 1 tests for those same people. Like my version 1 might be 47% country A, 24% country B, 15% C, etc., and my version 2 is 46% A, 27% B, 14% C, etc. Still an estimate, but not bad!

But like I said at the beginning, the primary strength of these tests is in precise DNA matching with your cousins who have also tested, including close and very distant unknown cousins. You can compare trees, figure out how you're related, and use that info to figure out how you're related to still more further out cousins, and eventually all of this forms a pattern that confirms or denies each of your genealogical branches, and can help add new branches you didn't know about if you put the work into it. I could go on about other methods and uses, but this is far too long already. Smilie
You said everything I would have said (and more) and very eloquently, too!
Apr 26, 2023 6:03 AM
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Ride_The_SkyApr 26, 2023 6:03 AM
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Quote from TAGcaver :
Yes, they are excellent for that purpose and highly accurate.
No, they aren't primarily for that, it is just a little icing or distraction, but it is true that many people buy them only for that icing/distraction. And no, they don't just put areas, it is very careful and scientific, but the ethnicity things are an estimate nonetheless (and are always stated as such), and the estimate can change over time as they gather new information and get more accurate. But even with improved methods and more data to compare to, ethnicity estimates will always be open to different interpretations. For example, what does it mean to say someone's DNA is 35% French? As compared to what moment in time? Present day? 200 years ago? 500 years ago? 1,000 years ago? Populations have shifted so much over the centuries everywhere.
This is an annoyingly popular myth that clueless reporters and news sites created. Many people who think they are identical twins are not, they are just very similar fraternal twins, no closer than normal siblings. Sibling's DNA (and therefore their ethnicity estimates) varies because they inherit different percentages from their parents.
Tons of people have, and they are usually pretty close. Out of the 30+ people's tests that I manage, I have retested 5 people (myself, my wife, my parents, my wife's mom) just to have the newer versions when they came out. Each of them were done with new unconnected accounts and generic names until after all results were in, and all 5 of them came back within a few small percentage points of every population as compared to their version 1 tests for those same people. Like my version 1 might be 47% country A, 24% country B, 15% C, etc., and my version 2 is 46% A, 27% B, 14% C, etc. Still an estimate, but not bad!

But like I said at the beginning, the primary strength of these tests is in precise DNA matching with your cousins who have also tested, including close and very distant unknown cousins. You can compare trees, figure out how you're related, and use that info to figure out how you're related to still more further out cousins, and eventually all of this forms a pattern that confirms or denies each of your genealogical branches, and can help add new branches you didn't know about if you put the work into it. I could go on about other methods and uses, but this is far too long already. Smilie
Thanks, a lot of good info, but personally I would be more interested in finding my roots than my cousins, because who wants more relatives, right (just kidding, but yeah sometimes it's more headache) However, it's great for finding lost siblings/parents especially adopted people.

Regarding origins/background dna info, I don't really like the idea of "nationality" like French is not really a race or creed, it's a nationality whereas middle eastern or viking or eskimo, these are better answers and the type of results I would love to see.

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May 14, 2023 7:36 AM
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aperez4501May 14, 2023 7:36 AM
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Quote from Ride_The_Sky :
Thanks, a lot of good info, but personally I would be more interested in finding my roots than my cousins, because who wants more relatives, right (just kidding, but yeah sometimes it's more headache) However, it's great for finding lost siblings/parents especially adopted people.

Regarding origins/background dna info, I don't really like the idea of "nationality" like French is not really a race or creed, it's a nationality whereas middle eastern or viking or eskimo, these are better answers and the type of results I would love to see.
i agree,i would like a test kit
for similar reason but those are broader descriptions why would you want those, I've never once heard that they use nationality.. Vikings are not an ethnicity.. all of Scandinavia produced Vikings(pirates).. ppl want specifics, of the 3 you mentioned only eskimo would be the most narrowed.. the "middle east" is huge and made up of multiple ethnicities(Persian, Arab, copt, turkic,kurd etc.... you want to be specific about Vikings, but you want to lump everyone else together by region/continent?... That's interesting.🤔. The franks did become the French you know, or do you just want to refer to them as germanic? thank you might have things a little mixed up..
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