MSI Modern 14 14" Laptop (AMD Ryzen 5-7530U UMA 16GB 512GB NVMe SSD) $499 + Free Shipping

superslickz

May 05, 2023 06:37 PM

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superslickzMay 05, 2023 06:37 PM

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"Ultra light 3.75 lbs"

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Dr.W

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Dr.W

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May 05, 2023 07:29 PM

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250-nits 45% NTSC.

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iwearjorts

May 05, 2023 08:24 PM

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iwearjortsMay 05, 2023 08:24 PM

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If this had even a 1050ti I'd buy.

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tjaved22

May 05, 2023 09:04 PM

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Quote from Dr.Wajahat

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250-nits 45% NTSC.

Would you say it's worth it?

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Luigis3rdcousin

May 05, 2023 09:40 PM

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Luigis3rdcousinMay 05, 2023 09:40 PM

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I learned something with ryzen mobile processors. The iGPU are very mediocre but somewhat capable. They only have one advantage.

They can use shared system memory. For example. If your doing any kind of video editing in davinci resolve, resolve is famous for eating of video memory. Many built in gaming GPU like the obvious superior RTX 3050 ti is only 4gb of vram.

The Radeon graphics will use extra system memory. I conducted a test where it used over 7gb of system ram and video ram combined and never got an error warning where as a dedicated GPU with 4gb vram will run out of memory at some point and show an error warning you have done so.

So if you paired it with 32gb of ram that would give it plenty of extra room.

Just my two cents

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code65536

May 05, 2023 10:36 PM

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Despite being a "7000" CPU, the CPU here is a 2-year-old 5600U that's been refreshed with a new model number and slightly higher clocks. It'z Zen 3, not Zen 3+ or Zen 4, and still using the old GCN Vega GPU cores instead of the RDNA cores in their newer chips.

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essix8

May 05, 2023 10:42 PM

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Quote from tjaved22

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Would you say it's worth it?

No. The screen is garbage. The CPU is a several year old refresh, and MSI isnt that good of a laptop brand. Easy pass for $500.

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HaloFans

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HaloFansMay 06, 2023 03:21 AM

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Quote from tjaved22

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Would you say it's worth it?

If this unit had an extra empty NVME slot (can't confirm though specs say x1 3.0 PCI-e nvme slot), maybe.
Customer reviews on that site mix other models with the similar model reviews box checked by default.

You'll have to pay more for 100% sRGB.

Also, 7530U doesn't have AV1 support since it's using the old VEGA gpu model. If the last number were a 5 (7535U), then it pushes closer to a yes.

Last edited by HaloFans May 5, 2023 at 08:25 PM.

HiTechComputers937

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Take this from a professional, it would be worth it at $299 but simply old refreshed CPU as previously mentioned, though a good argument is made for video ram as simply getting fastest allowable ram and 32gb will give you decent GPU abilities (keep in mind some BIOS options will have to be changed). That said I have seen much more BANG for $ on here before! Please let me know if you have any specific questions as this is all I do for a living is broker and build PCs, as well as troubleshoot and install any kind of networking or CCTV equipment. My .02c lol!

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gotk

May 08, 2023 02:54 AM

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Quote from HiTechComputersLLC

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Take this from a professional, it would be worth it at $299 but simply old refreshed CPU as previously mentioned,

So the obvious question - can you link to any comparable $300 laptops?

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ghostfreckle

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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin

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I learned something with ryzen mobile processors. The iGPU are very mediocre but somewhat capable. They only have one advantage.

They can use shared system memory. For example. If your doing any kind of video editing in davinci resolve, resolve is famous for eating of video memory. Many built in gaming GPU like the obvious superior RTX 3050 ti is only 4gb of vram.

The Radeon graphics will use extra system memory. I conducted a test where it used over 7gb of system ram and video ram combined and never got an error warning where as a dedicated GPU with 4gb vram will run out of memory at some point and show an error warning you have done so.

So if you paired it with 32gb of ram that would give it plenty of extra room.

Just my two cents

Pretty sure that intel igpus use system memory as well…

JollyMeerkat8398

May 10, 2023 12:28 PM

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JollyMeerkat8398May 10, 2023 12:28 PM

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Quote from gotk

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So the obvious question - can you link to any comparable $300 laptops?

In build quality, display quality, and performance, I would wager the Gateway 14.1" Thin and Light with 11th gen i5, 16GB ram/512GB SSD is pretty close and costs all of $279z

asdf4455

May 13, 2023 09:07 PM

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asdf4455May 13, 2023 09:07 PM

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Honestly the chip isn't too bad. A 5600U is still pretty decent in today's market, especially since it's main competition in terms of price is the older i5-1135G7 and newer i5-1235U. One is a quad core and the other is 10 cores, with 2P cores and 8E cores. CPU wise, the 1235U is gonna edge it out, but the 80EU version of the Iris Xe graphics is going to be very limiting compared to the Vega 7 in this. Especially since the 7530U got a clock speed bump on the iGPU from 1800mhz to 2000Mhz for the refresh. Still a cut down version of the Vega 8 version on the R7 version, but at least they didn't artificially lower the clock like other models. you are pretty much just missing the 1 GPU Core. If you're looking to do any gaming, the difference between the 80EU iris Xe and Vega 7 are gonna be drastically different. the Iris Xe is gonna need 720p for most games to really give a good FPS. the Vega 7 can do pretty well at 1080p is a decent amount of games, and especially older AAA titles seem to hold up well. The Iris Xe is decent but intel's drivers can be hit or miss with older titles since there has been no optimization done for them. It's much better now than when only 11th gen was out, but there are still performance issues in a lot of titles. Overall, unless CPU is extremely important to you, I would consider something like this over anything intel without a dGPU. This specific model is really cut down tho. MSI really went cheap with the construction and I would not put money on this lasting more than a couple of years.

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