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Key Features:
- Fill medium-size rooms with more refined sound from a 7.2 or 5.2.2 set up with Dolby Atmos and DTS:X
- With HEOS Built-in, wirelessly stream online music and share with HEOS-enabled speakers in other rooms.
- 7.2 channels
- 95 watts per channel
- 8K Ultra HD
- 3D Audio
- 6 HDMI inputs
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Denon AVRs support Audyssey, which is Denon + Marantz's room audio correction system. There are 2 different levels, Audyssey XT and XT32, with XT32 being the higher level. This is baked into the AVR, so it cannot be upgraded. It's definitely worth running, to see if the acoustics of your particular room can be taken into account. It can be switched on and off if you hate the results. The higher end models allow for 2 different calibrations to be stored in the AVR, so you can switch quickly between the 2.
In addition to the Audyssey calibration you perform through the AVR's UI, there is also an app, MultEQ, available on both Apple and Android. This is $20. It allows for a much higher degree of customization than the AVR alone. It probably is worth buying if you want to tweak the settings more reliably.
On top of that, there is a Windows app, MultEQ-X. This is a fair investment @ $199, though sometimes it goes on sale for $149. This allows a ton of customization. For example, with newer models, you can re-run a calibration just for a single speaker if you change it or even move it to a different location. This price is far cheaper than any of the DIRAC add-ons that are available for the higher-level AVRs.
Very importantly, the computer app is LOCKED to a specific AVR, and your Microsoft userid. So you cannot transfer it to another Denon when you upgrade. You cannot move it from your userid to another. It requires another purchase. The phone app is not locked and you may use it with any AVR.
The best tip I learned, after it was too late for me, is if you choose to purchase MultEQ-X, is to create a specific Microsoft userid JUST for that app and AVR. That way, when you sell it, you can throw that in as a carrot.
Hope this is useful for some here.
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Whether or not you actually need that is a different story. Primarly it seems it is a bigger deal for those with the latest gen Playstation or Xbox.
It also looks like your receiver has an auto-calibration mic, which is nice. Though this Denon's Audyssey XT32 tech is fairly well regarded. Generally, among the major AVRs, Dirac > Audyssey > YPAO (Yamaha).
I will be using this mainly for movies, and the kids will occasionally play PS4.
Mostly streaming, with occasional 4K. Plan to get LG 65 C2 OLED.
From the specs: "The Elite SC-97 supports transmission of 4K 60p (4:4:4/24-bit) video signals and High Dynamic Range (HDR) signals, along with HDCP 2.2 copyright protection standard. 4K Ultra HD pass-through is the recognized standard of ultra-high video resolution, boasting 3840 x 2160 (24 Hz/25 Hz/30 Hz) pixels or 4096 x 2160 (24 Hz) pixels."
Would the X-3800H offer any benefits over my existing Pioneer?
Mostly streaming, with occasional 4K. Plan to get LG 65 C2 OLED.
From the specs: "The Elite SC-97 supports transmission of 4K 60p (4:4:4/24-bit) video signals and High Dynamic Range (HDR) signals, along with HDCP 2.2 copyright protection standard. 4K Ultra HD pass-through is the recognized standard of ultra-high video resolution, boasting 3840 x 2160 (24 Hz/25 Hz/30 Hz) pixels or 4096 x 2160 (24 Hz) pixels."
Would the X-3800H offer any benefits over my existing Pioneer?
You would be paying for features you don't need and or use(ie object based codecs, 4 extra channels).
Since you only need 5 channels I would suggest looking for a slightly older AVR that includes features you need.
This will cost you much less and most likely a higher tier AVR.
You would be paying for features you don't need and or use(ie object based codecs, 4 extra channels).
Since you only need 5 channels I would suggest looking for a slightly older AVR that includes features you need.
This will cost you much less and most likely a higher tier AVR.
My main concern is 4K support for my pending LG C2 65 OLED TV.
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Denon AVRs support Audyssey, which is Denon + Marantz's room audio correction system. There are 2 different levels, Audyssey XT and XT32, with XT32 being the higher level. This is baked into the AVR, so it cannot be upgraded. It's definitely worth running, to see if the acoustics of your particular room can be taken into account. It can be switched on and off if you hate the results. The higher end models allow for 2 different calibrations to be stored in the AVR, so you can switch quickly between the 2.
In addition to the Audyssey calibration you perform through the AVR's UI, there is also an app, MultEQ, available on both Apple and Android. This is $20. It allows for a much higher degree of customization than the AVR alone. It probably is worth buying if you want to tweak the settings more reliably.
On top of that, there is a Windows app, MultEQ-X. This is a fair investment @ $199, though sometimes it goes on sale for $149. This allows a ton of customization. For example, with newer models, you can re-run a calibration just for a single speaker if you change it or even move it to a different location. This price is far cheaper than any of the DIRAC add-ons that are available for the higher-level AVRs.
Very importantly, the computer app is LOCKED to a specific AVR, and your Microsoft userid. So you cannot transfer it to another Denon when you upgrade. You cannot move it from your userid to another. It requires another purchase. The phone app is not locked and you may use it with any AVR.
The best tip I learned, after it was too late for me, is if you choose to purchase MultEQ-X, is to create a specific Microsoft userid JUST for that app and AVR. That way, when you sell it, you can throw that in as a carrot.
Hope this is useful for some here.
My main concern is 4K support for my pending LG C2 65 OLED TV.
Even with object based codecs/soundtracks it needs to be optimally implemented to make it worthwhile IMO.
If you don't/can't, IMO a well implemented 5/7.1 setup can hold its own if not best these object based alternatives.
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Denon AVRs support Audyssey, which is Denon + Marantz's room audio correction system. There are 2 different levels, Audyssey XT and XT32, with XT32 being the higher level. This is baked into the AVR, so it cannot be upgraded. It's definitely worth running, to see if the acoustics of your particular room can be taken into account. It can be switched on and off if you hate the results. The higher end models allow for 2 different calibrations to be stored in the AVR, so you can switch quickly between the 2.
In addition to the Audyssey calibration you perform through the AVR's UI, there is also an app, MultEQ, available on both Apple and Android. This is $20. It allows for a much higher degree of customization than the AVR alone. It probably is worth buying if you want to tweak the settings more reliably.
On top of that, there is a Windows app, MultEQ-X. This is a fair investment @ $199, though sometimes it goes on sale for $149. This allows a ton of customization. For example, with newer models, you can re-run a calibration just for a single speaker if you change it or even move it to a different location. This price is far cheaper than any of the DIRAC add-ons that are available for the higher-level AVRs.
Very importantly, the computer app is LOCKED to a specific AVR, and your Microsoft userid. So you cannot transfer it to another Denon when you upgrade. You cannot move it from your userid to another. It requires another purchase. The phone app is not locked and you may use it with any AVR.
The best tip I learned, after it was too late for me, is if you choose to purchase MultEQ-X, is to create a specific Microsoft userid JUST for that app and AVR. That way, when you sell it, you can throw that in as a carrot.
Hope this is useful for some here.
There is a learning curve on the app, X and Dirac.
The app is the simplest and X being the highest.
Both of Dirac's RC algorithms are pretty nifty and can be well worth the cost when implemented optimally.
Denon AVRs support Audyssey, which is Denon + Marantz's room audio correction system. There are 2 different levels, Audyssey XT and XT32, with XT32 being the higher level. This is baked into the AVR, so it cannot be upgraded. It's definitely worth running, to see if the acoustics of your particular room can be taken into account. It can be switched on and off if you hate the results. The higher end models allow for 2 different calibrations to be stored in the AVR, so you can switch quickly between the 2.
In addition to the Audyssey calibration you perform through the AVR's UI, there is also an app, MultEQ, available on both Apple and Android. This is $20. It allows for a much higher degree of customization than the AVR alone. It probably is worth buying if you want to tweak the settings more reliably.
On top of that, there is a Windows app, MultEQ-X. This is a fair investment @ $199, though sometimes it goes on sale for $149. This allows a ton of customization. For example, with newer models, you can re-run a calibration just for a single speaker if you change it or even move it to a different location. This price is far cheaper than any of the DIRAC add-ons that are available for the higher-level AVRs.
Very importantly, the computer app is LOCKED to a specific AVR, and your Microsoft userid. So you cannot transfer it to another Denon when you upgrade. You cannot move it from your userid to another. It requires another purchase. The phone app is not locked and you may use it with any AVR.
The best tip I learned, after it was too late for me, is if you choose to purchase MultEQ-X, is to create a specific Microsoft userid JUST for that app and AVR. That way, when you sell it, you can throw that in as a carrot.
Hope this is useful for some here.
Asking for my 5.1.4 X3700h in home theater setup in a 12x12 room.
Also, assuming DIRAC is included in the MultEQ-X and is best for home theater audio, and MultEQ should be good for my 3.1.4 s760h that's primarily for music/parties? And this means I should buy both?
Both of my setups are Martin Logans IW5 LCR center channel, IW6 for the rest of the eye-level speakers, and IC6 for all ceiling speakers with a Dayton audio 12" sub.
And what about the unfortunate Denon audio delay issues? How to best correct?
Asking for my 5.4.1 X3700h in home theater setup in a 12x12 room.
Also, assuming DIRAC is included in the MultEQ-X and is best for home theater audio, and MultEQ should be good for my 3.4.1 s760h that's primarily for music/parties? And this means I should buy both?
Both of my setups are Martin Logans IW5 LCR center channel, IW6 for the rest of the eye-level speakers, and IC6 for all ceiling speakers with a Dayton audio 12" sub.
And what about the unfortunate Denon audio delay issues? How to best correct?
Asking for my 5.4.1 X3700h in home theater setup in a 12x12 room.
Also, assuming DIRAC is included in the MultEQ-X and is best for home theater audio, and MultEQ should be good for my 3.4.1 s760h that's primarily for music/parties? And this means I should buy both?
Both of my setups are Martin Logans IW5 LCR center channel, IW6 for the rest of the eye-level speakers, and IC6 for all ceiling speakers with a Dayton audio 12" sub.
And what about the unfortunate Denon audio delay issues? How to best correct?
And as stated above, DIRAC is completely different. You can use both with a compatible AVR, but the purchases are different. You won't be using both at the same time. There are different levels of DIRAC as well, and it adds up quickly if you go all in.
Regarding this Denon audio delay, I believe the reference is about a 'miscalculation' of speaker distances. Reportedly, when running Audssey from the app, the distances it lists for speakers locations are slightly off. They convert the time differential into physical distances, and it doesn't always line up. I don't recall any more specifics, or how serious it really was. For those interested, there was a very simple calculation to 'correct' this. I do know the windows app did not have this issue.
Asking for my 5.4.1 X3700h in home theater setup in a 12x12 room.
Also, assuming DIRAC is included in the MultEQ-X and is best for home theater audio, and MultEQ should be good for my 3.4.1 s760h that's primarily for music/parties? And this means I should buy both?
Both of my setups are Martin Logans IW5 LCR center channel, IW6 for the rest of the eye-level speakers, and IC6 for all ceiling speakers with a Dayton audio 12" sub.
And what about the unfortunate Denon audio delay issues? How to best correct?
As others mentioned they are two different room correction companies and they can not be intermixed.
The issue people bring up about Audyssey's RC algorithm doesn't affect everyone, tbh it's more a measurement issue than actually hearing a difference IMO.
Room environment and proper placement plays a significant role with results.
This is kinda a moot discussion for you because the 3700 does not have the option to get any Dirac RC.
I agree I would give the Editor App a try, for most that is good enough.
X has a high learning curve and you can easily make things worse if you're not comfortable on what you are doing.
As others mentioned they are two different room correction companies and they can not be intermixed.
The issue people bring up about Audyssey's RC algorithm doesn't affect everyone, tbh it's more a measurement issue than actually hearing a difference IMO.
Room environment and proper placement plays a significant role with results.
This is kinda a moot discussion for you because the 3700 does not have the option to get any Dirac RC.
I agree I would give the Editor App a try, for most that is good enough.
X has a high learning curve and you can easily make things worse if you're not comfortable on what you are doing.
Thank you for calling out all those things. I'll play with the app for cheap.
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Thank you for calling out all those things. I'll play with the app for cheap.
Denon/Marantz only offers Diracs loudspeaker room correction which is the same one on current Pioneer/Onkyo models.
Denon/Marantz will offer Diracs subwoofer room correction next year sometime.
IMO that's just as important since integration of subwoofers into a setup is crucial IMO.
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