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May 26, 2023 04:16 PM
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smartadzeMay 26, 2023 04:16 PM
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Great cards and good deals - but a previous post has the 6650 XT for $219 at Micro Center (no rebates). Blows away the 3050 and edges out many of the 3060's.

Good days for GPU's again :-) Back in the Covid, the 3060's were selling for almost $800 (unless you caught one of the lottery sales).
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May 26, 2023 04:22 PM
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jmandawgMay 26, 2023 04:22 PM
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2 years 2 late
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beersyMay 26, 2023 04:36 PM
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What I am about to say, is probably not going to be appreciated, but I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger on a 3060ti at $365 or $375. You'd be better off getting a 4060ti at this point. While the 4060ti isn't "much better" (in some scenarios it is basically equal to the 3060ti to at best 10% more), it's at least on a newer architecture that isn't 2 years old at this point which means it should have driver support longer and has a few bells and whistles that might become more important in the years to come (FSR3, AV1 encoding, etc.). And since you can still get 4060ti's for MSRP days after at $400 its hard to pay less than 10% more to get a current architecture. I'm also expecting some deals soon (maybe adding in games, maybe a "temporary" discount, etc.).

With that said, the 3060 at $260 is a good deal for an entry level gaming PC or go with one of the AMD 7600 which are also available on newegg for MSRP and it will beat even the 6650XT (by a small margin) and be on the latest architecture. AMD also has a history of making improvements with their cards via driver updates.
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May 26, 2023 05:11 PM
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luckygeckoMay 26, 2023 05:11 PM
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Quote from beersy :
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With that said, the 3060 at $260 is a good deal for an entry level gaming PC or go with one of the AMD 7600 which are also available on newegg for MSRP and it will beat even the 6650XT (by a small margin) and be on the latest architecture. AMD also has a history of making improvements with their cards via driver updates.

My issue is that I have a RTX 2080 and trying to find something that is an upgrade and not a bank breaker is interesting. I do want a card with more DRAM.
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MozartAMay 26, 2023 05:25 PM
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Quote from luckygecko :
My issue is that I have a RTX 2080 and trying to find something that is an upgrade and not a bank breaker is interesting. I do want a card with more DRAM.
Depend on what you mean by upgrade. Are you purely talking about FPS for certain video game? Or are you talking about additional features added in each series (like 30- or 40-Series) of the card?
For example, video streaming are switching over to AV1 video codec use in things like WebRTC and HTML5 Web Video. Many people are now converting their video library to encode using AV1 also.
AV1 is the next-generation video coding format developed by Alliance for Open Media (AOM), along with the support of Google, Amazon, Cisco, Microsoft, Mozilla, and Netflix. It is an open, royalty-free video codec (unlike H.264/AVC, H.265/HEVC,etc), which is specifically designed to improve the encoding and decoding efficiency by 30% over HEVC's performance.
I don't think RTX 2080 has any support for AV1(?)
While AV1 decoding is supported in hardware on AMD RDNA 2 GPUs (outside of the Navi 24 based 6500 XT), NVIDIA GeForce 30- and 40-Series GPUs, Intel Xe and Arc GPUs, along with mobile chips like the Samsung Exynos 2100 and 2200, various MediaTek Dimensity SoC's, and Google's Tensor processor.
NVIDIA's brand new RTX 40-series Ada Lovelace GPUs also support AV1 encoding.
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May 26, 2023 06:08 PM
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luckygeckoMay 26, 2023 06:08 PM
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Quote from MozartA :
Depend on what you mean by upgrade.....

Thank you that was all good information. The biggest tasking I do to my GPU is playing DCS World (Digital Combat Simulator) via VR.

Also, the more DRAM would be better in Stable Diffusion.
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StaticksMay 26, 2023 07:25 PM
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GPU prices are still ridiculously elevated. Hasn't anyone told Nvidia, and AMD for that matter, that the crypto mining craze has been over for a year?
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May 26, 2023 09:38 PM
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HonestSweater3471May 26, 2023 09:38 PM
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May 26, 2023 10:01 PM
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beersyMay 26, 2023 10:01 PM
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Quote from luckygecko :
My issue is that I have a RTX 2080 and trying to find something that is an upgrade and not a bank breaker is interesting. I do want a card with more DRAM.
Yeah even the 3060ti or 4060ti (since there's barely any performance gains) aren't dramatically better than a 2080 (if i rmember correctly) and you aren't getting any more VRAM either. You're really looking at something like 4070 or better to really see any serious performance gains if you are looking at Nvidia or something like a 6800XT if AMD. Neither of which come "cheap" at $500+.
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SolarBirdPipeMay 27, 2023 01:42 PM
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Quote from Staticks :
GPU prices are still ridiculously elevated. Hasn't anyone told Nvidia, and AMD for that matter, that the crypto mining craze has been over for a year?
From what I gather based ion recent news. Nvidia doesn't really care for gaming as their business is booming. They rode the crypto craze and are now riding the AI boom which needs a lot of chips. Check the recent surge in their stock price.
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May 28, 2023 09:01 AM
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KnightRidMay 28, 2023 09:01 AM
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Quote from smartadze :
Great cards and good deals - but a previous post has the 6650 XT for $219 at Micro Center (no rebates). Blows away the 3050 and edges out many of the 3060's.

Good days for GPU's again :-) Back in the Covid, the 3060's were selling for almost $800 (unless you caught one of the lottery sales).
I agree, except.....If you do video/graphic work then Nvidia is the only way to go as most software uses CUDA Frown I still have an AMD RX580 with 8gb vram and I would happily trade for an nvidia card just to so my video work faster Wink
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May 28, 2023 04:01 PM
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UCBearcatMay 28, 2023 04:01 PM
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I have a RTX 2070 and have been going back and forth on upgrading... the 3060/4060 wouldn't be THAT much of a boost for the money. I ended up going with the one below. This 4070 had a $40 off coupon and comes with diablo 4 for free, which I was going to buy so it's effectively $110 discount from MSRP. I'll also sell the 2070 for 150-200. Looks like it sold out since last night, but there's some other 4070's with coupons as well

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforc...6814137790
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May 28, 2023 04:08 PM
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notice how almost all of them 8GB cards
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May 28, 2023 06:48 PM
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RelaxedWinter832May 28, 2023 06:48 PM
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Quote from beersy :
Yeah even the 3060ti or 4060ti (since there's barely any performance gains) aren't dramatically better than a 2080 (if i rmember correctly) and you aren't getting any more VRAM either. You're really looking at something like 4070 or better to really see any serious performance gains if you are looking at Nvidia or something like a 6800XT if AMD. Neither of which come "cheap" at $500+.
The 4070s are more like $600, where the 6800XTs are edging closer and closer to $500. Amazon has an XFX 6800XT for $519 and a sapphire for $534, which is quite tempting given the boosted performance over Nvidia at that price point. Just mind the wattage on Team Red.

Also, Asus is clearing out 3070s for $399, [asus.com] which IMO, wipes out any reason to get the 3060ti or even 4060ti given that 3070 outperforms in most cases, especially at 1440p. Nvidia seems to be hoping that every developer will adopt DLSS and Ray Tracing, yet the number of games that currently have it are slim comparatively speaking. People who want to game in 4k aren't looking at these cards anyways too.

Although, we should recognize that this is the proverbial rays of sunlight from Heaven for budget gamers after so many years of absurdly inflated GPU prices.
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