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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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ejvyas
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Quote from crazeedave :
What are you taking about? Oil and gas charges Tesla. Do your research on how power gets to your house to charge it.
Previous comment is about cars. There wont be many new gas options

Power generation is a separate topic. Oil is a depleting resource so that wont last long either
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This thread is cancer.
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ejvyas
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Quote from yelnatsch517 :
I don't understand the obsession with hating Tesla or Elon. No other car brand is this divisive.

I wonder if it's mostly political and ignorant people spreading misinformation.

The only unfair thing I see about this deal is the income limit. Certain areas have a much higher cost of living than others and keeping it all the same across the board is not very fair. Average house in CA is now $1M. That's more than double the national average. How is it fair for people living in high cost areas? People making over $150k in certain parts of CA, probably couldn't even afford to buy a Tesla.
You could say that about any federal credit or deduction. Federal should be always uniform. State should pick up the rest if they want to
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vabruno
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
Almost forgot the gas generator in case your battery dies on the way home from work
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cloudyview
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from bajanboy5809 :
Corporate welfare and government handouts at its finest.
100% prefer benefits to 'green' tech over penalties or restrictions on ICE. Unfortunately we're doing both...
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sqa4life
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
All cars have destination fee
Wall connector is optional
Order fee will be credit when you take deliver of your car.

We own 3 Tesla's. Woke up fully charged, tempt automatically set at the desired level and haven't been to the gas stations in a very long time.

Tesla keep adding new cool features via over the air software updates AFTER purchased at no additional charge. Which automakers can do that?
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msfootball2009
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from krnprogamer :
I don't fully understand how this tax credit thing works.

So basically, would I subtract the tax credit amount to line 24 (total tax) and then subtract from line 33 (total payments)? So if you normally receive tax refunds, you would essentially add $7500 on top of what you normally would get refunded? Am I understanding this correctly?
Also perplexed by this. Can anyone confirm/deny?

For example, let's say Bob makes $130k/yr and paid the gov't $40k in taxes. His taxes are simple, no complex things to deduct, kids, etc. He chose to withhold more when submitting his W4 to avoid owing money during tax season. He gets $2k back in returns..

Does the $7,500 add onto this, so he'd get back $9,500, or no, because the $7,500 is only to reduce "amount owed" during tax time?

If that's the case, wouldn't everyone wanting an EV be inclined to switch their W4 to withhold less so they're far in the negative for tax season?

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sqa4life
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Quote from vabruno :
Almost forgot the gas generator in case your battery dies on the way home from work
Sound like someone don't know how to plan.
Same thing happen if you don't fill the gas.

"Failed to plan is planning to fail"
you're wleome.
Last edited by sqa4life June 3, 2023 at 09:24 PM.
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KINGNUT777
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from Cherub :
On one hand, WTF!!! I just bought on Monday and now $1,200 off just a few days later?! I was watching prices for two months and still missed it.

On the other hand, I would be thrilled to see the full tax credit available again on the non-Performance 3, but according to the IRS, the credit is still $3,750. See here [fueleconomy.gov]. This is current as of 6/1, so unless something changed since yesterday (and there is no news supporting this), it sounds like an error.
Its a vehicle not a toaster... stop crying
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fuzzyballz
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
Worth it. Pretty sure Tesla doesn't add non-negotiable junk to your car like nearly every dealership now a days.
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redcashmere
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Quote from sqa4life :
All cars have destination fee
Wall connector is optional
Order fee will be credit when you take deliver of your car.

We own 3 Tesla's. Woke up fully charged, tempt automatically set at the desired level and haven't been to the gas stations in a very long time.

Tesla keep adding new cool features via over the air software updates AFTER purchased at no additional charge. Which automakers can do that?
Apparently quite a few do OTAs.

https://electrek.co/2022/06/07/ov...r-compare/
Jun 4, 2023
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Wierdo-X
Jun 4, 2023
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Killer deal on the best EV brand in the market, best in software and supporting charging network.

Even Ford joined Tesla's charging network because nothing else could be as reliable for their own EVs.
Last edited by Wierdo-X June 3, 2023 at 09:34 PM.
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redcashmere
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Quote from Wierdo-X :
Killer deal on the best EV brand in the market, best in software and supporting charging network.

Even Ford joined Tesla's charging network because nothing else could be as reliable for their own EVs.
This sounds like an ad. Brand loyalty is hyper consumerism at its worst. Plenty of EVs have differing benefits, and hopefully we see more and more competition. Unless you own stock in Tesla shilling for a billion dollar company is embarrassing.
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Lyriq
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Quote from Wierdo-X :
Killer deal on the best EV brand in the market, best in software and supporting charging network.

Even Ford joined Tesla's charging network because nothing else could be as reliable for their own EVs.
You need to educate your self here😂
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aphex
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Quote from msfootball2009 :
Also perplexed by this. Can anyone confirm/deny?

For example, let's say Bob makes $130k/yr and paid the gov't $40k in taxes. His taxes are simple, no complex things to deduct, kids, etc. He chose to withhold more when submitting his W4 to avoid owing money during tax season. He gets $2k back in returns..

Does the $7,500 add onto this, so he'd get back $9,500, or no, because the $7,500 is only to reduce "amount owed" during tax time?

If that's the case, wouldn't everyone wanting an EV be inclined to switch their W4 to withhold less so they're far in the negative for tax season?
The easiest way to think about it is to first ignore how much you would get back, ignore withholding, etc. just focus on how much your tax liability was for the year.

Using your example, 130k income and 38k tax liability.

Take the 7.5k off your tax liability, so your liability drops to 30.5k for the year.

NOW look at how much tax you paid (40k), and figure out how much of a refund you will get.

"Reduce the amount owed" is talking about your tax liability for the year, nothing to do with how big or small your refund is. Ultimately how much of a refund you get back in the end takes into account how much you did or didn't pay towards your liability for the year, but it doesn't change the impact of the 7.5k.
Last edited by aphex June 3, 2023 at 09:44 PM.
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