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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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Knightshade
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Quote from Chris_Tian :
Title is extremely misleading.
Title is
"Base Tesla Model 3 Inventory has $2,410 discount and now Qualifies for $7,500 Tax Credit"

That is factually correct-- and nothing you go on to complain about in the rest of your post is relevant to that title- so how's it misleading?


Quote from Chris_Tian :
It's 38k + delivery + fees + tax.
Rebate wont reduce the total amount of taxes you'll pay for the car. Nevermind the fact you need a wall/mobile connector and charger that is also taxed.

This is a 41k before taxes and 44.5k after taxes(not counting dmv fees). 44.5k - 7.5k = 37k.

30k + taxes is 32k. HUGE difference
So first
... you realize taxes differ from place to place right?

And in some states the tax is...$0.

In my own state sales tax on 41k car would be $1230, not the 3.5k you claimed.
Last edited by Knightshade June 3, 2023 at 10:08 PM.
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Don_Mayor
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BMW put a scare into Elon with the arrival of the i7 and imminent arrival of the i5.

much much better quality EV
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Wierdo-X
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Quote from redcashmere :
This sounds like an ad. Brand loyalty is hyper consumerism at its worst. Plenty of EVs have differing benefits, and hopefully we see more and more competition. Unless you own stock in Tesla shilling for a billion dollar company is embarrassing.
More competition is fine, but it's just a fact that old car companies don't get software, it's not in their DNA.

Until then, we're shopping between flip-cars and smart cars, and nobody in their right mind would call it shilling to state as fact that Apple was a pioneer in smartphones. Likewise Tesla is the Apple of cars today.

Which is why they have the number one highest selling model in the world right now, with zero paid advertising, just word of mouth. Butts in seats is how they got there, product sells itself.

You're free to shop as you like, but facts are facts.
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Eagles89
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Quote from Knightshade :
... you realize taxes differ from place to place right?

And in some states the tax is...$0.

In my own state sales tax on 41k car would be $1230, not the 3.5k you claimed.
I deduct any sales tax from my federal tax
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Knightshade
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Quote from Don_Mayor :
BMW put a scare into Elon with the arrival of the i7 and imminent arrival of the i5.

much much better quality EV

...you think a niche full sized sedan they barely sell any of, that starts at over $100,000 (and can get well over $150,000 when optioned) is a threat to the best selling mid-sized sedan in the world (they passed the Camry in Q1 2023, after coming in just behind in in 2022) that sells for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price?


That's... an interesting take. LMAOLMAOLMAO
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cgigate
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Quote from Don_Mayor :
BMW put a scare into Elon with the arrival of the i7 and imminent arrival of the i5.

much much better quality EV
Lol 😂, BMW is never a better quality EV....
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iverticalblue
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Quote from MrButthead :
Can you even get your hands on a new Prius Prime at MSRP? I thought the US is only going to get ~10k of the model each year.
the number of prius may be very limited due to supply & demand (thats what we were told when you hand them $500 for deposit), cancellations will be exponential as this kind of deal keeps getting better every several months. many just swing toward the model 3 for the $7.5k tax credit without waiting for 12 months & painless of buy a new car...

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Sleepshoppingat3am
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I'm holding till their reliability score is higher than my Camry hybrid.
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hpark21
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Quote from easybeart :
How do I owe taxes to get the full $7,500 off? I always get money back when I file my taxes.
Getting your $$ back at the end of the year after you file your taxes does not mean that you did not owe more than $7500.
Look at the see the amount in line 24 of 1040. If that amount is more than $7500, then you owe more than $7500. If it is less, then you will have to manufacture some income to raise that amount to $7500.
IMHO, BEST method of manufacturing some income which is not detrimental to your finances would be to do IRA/401K to Roth IRA/401K conversion. If you have regular IRA/401K, then convert enough of them into Roth IRA (or Roth 401k if your work supports it) to manufacture some income which will be subject to tax up to $7500 income tax. It is free $$ and once in Roth account, that money will grow tax free.
Now, 2 potential issues:
1. State tax - you may be subject to state income tax on the amount converted.
2. once you convert the $$ to Roth account, you can NOT access the money for 5 years (without penalty) even if you will hit retirement age prior to 5 years from conversion year.
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BADLA
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Quote from slickjews :
i bought one a couple weeks ago in mid May. Do I get 7500 or 3750 only?
$3750 for standard $7500 for long range and performance.
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java568
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Quote from Knightshade :
Given they typically have either a backlog, or less than a week or two of inventory on hand, they're not really "losing" anything--- there's still plenty of buyers for every car they make.
You don't cut prices three times in less than three months if you're not worried about sales.
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Kensic
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Quote from ViT3633 :
For car enthusiasts...

M3 = BMW M3

Maybe abbreviate Tesla Model 3 to TM3 to avoid confusion.
nah man, youre on a tesla model 3 thread. no one is taking about bmw m3 here.
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Eagles89
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Quote from hpark21 :
IMHO, BEST method of manufacturing some income which is not detrimental to your finances would be to do IRA/401K to Roth IRA/401K conversion.
Or quit your job and cash out all of your PTO at once
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dr_vimal23
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Does anyone know 3rd party leasing company in California, who passes tax credit to customers?

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krispytreat007
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Quote from the_redwood :
Washington State has no sales tax = about $4000 in savings.
Washington does have sales tax, just not till $25,000. Your tax will be about 2.5k

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