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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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DC13
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Quote from liveaslion :
It shows it's updated on 6/1, Electrek posted it on 06/2.

https://electrek.co/2023/06/02/te...t-model-3/
So where is the government source showing any different? Electrek is not a government source, they simply are referencing Tesla's website.
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HarrisonK1588
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Quote from Knightshade :
NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit
Withholding isn't irrelevant, it's shortcut to get a rough idea of your taxes if you know the normal refund you normally get and your tax situation is consistent. Of course you can just look on your tax return from the past year and get the number, but the calculation they suggested isn't actually wrong.
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burntorangehorn
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from namx :
Depends on where you live. $470k is nothing in high cost of living areas.
Maybe on Nantucket, where everyone but the help makes millions, but even in Manhattan it's a good living among those who have jobs.
Jun 4, 2023
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laupcc
Jun 4, 2023
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Price war will continue…..
Tesla needs to have new customers.

1. Tesla committed extreme high annual sales volume
2. Lower price to drive other EV or ICE competitors out of the market
Last edited by laupcc June 4, 2023 at 09:02 AM.
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F4ll3n
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from sdsnake :
Y'all got it all wrong about that $7500 tax credit. You do not get the full $7500 off unless you pay 100% tax.
What does this mean?
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kapeed1
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from Cherub :
On one hand, WTF!!! I just bought on Monday and now $1,200 off just a few days later?! I was watching prices for two months and still missed it.

On the other hand, I would be thrilled to see the full tax credit available again on the non-Performance 3, but according to the IRS, the credit is still $3,750. See here [fueleconomy.gov]. This is current as of 6/1, so unless something changed since yesterday (and there is no news supporting this), it sounds like an error.
Lol, I understand your pain. I paid 47k last year (plus taxes) and have no resort too!
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burntorangehorn
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Quote from iamholland :
Great deal but I really don't want to support Musk.
That's where I am. Whatever his contributions to certain aspects of tech, he's showing himself to be enormous ass.

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SeriousMorning1848
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Quote from Eagles89 :
You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
Are you okay ? It is prices of the items here not such other costs, why makes your life more dificult ? Of you dont want to pay any of that, just move to the caves
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DC13
Jun 4, 2023
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Quote from manku :
It's such a bad car that the Tesla Y was the single best selling car model in the world last quarter!

And Tesla has among the highest loyalty/repeat buyers in the car industry, if not the highest depending on whose survey you trust.
Most people buying model 3 and model Y upgrading from their old model 3 and y because its falling apart and they were able to sell it for more due to the car shortage. That won't last. Teslas depreciate faster than any cars on the road due to their price cutting.
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linuxpsb
Jun 4, 2023
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Is TSLA in a hurry to sell more vehicles because other EV makers such as Toyota, Honda, VolksWagen are ramping up production, and could undercut on cost?
Quote from krispytreat007 :
The base Tesla Model 3 once again qualifies for the full EV tax credit. New inventory also has a $2,410 discount present. Thus, a base model 3 now comes out to 37,830-7,500=30,330 excluding taxes.

https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=200


https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=200
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Binar
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Quote from DC13 :
Most people buying model 3 and model Y upgrading from their old model 3 and y because its falling apart and they were able to sell it for more due to the car shortage. That won't last. Teslas depreciate faster than any cars on the road due to their price cutting.
do you have any numbers to back it up? I knoe EV market is greeping up and you said "most ppl" are repeat buyers which contradicts the real numbers
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AkronOH77
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Quote from gen2 :
Cheaper than a Camry or Accord
Yep. Speaks more to how overpriced Camry's and Accords are right now. Who's actually paying 35k for a Camry?
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burntorangehorn
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Quote from bajanboy5809 :
Corporate welfare and government handouts at its finest.
Wait 'til you get a load of petroleum subsidies.
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stealthytolkien
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While you should check if you qualify or not, here is my experience with a 2019 Model 3 that I just traded in for a larger vehicle (not Model Y).

Pros:

1) Exhilarating off-the-line acceleration and incredibly smooth ride
2) Very little body roll and handles curves like a champ
3) Economical especially the base model if you are using this strictly as your daily driver and occasional day trips. It is always better to get the biggest possible battery but my SR+ RWD was no slouch when we drove cross country with it. Yes, takes longer to get to your destination as charging stops do add up, but it does open up a new world to explore and you get there better rested.
4) Supercharging network is fantastic
5) Autopilot on interstate highways is good. Anything more complicated, and you run the risk of phantom braking and the car doing very dangerous things at times. Rare, but possible.


Cons:

1) Very low. If you are above 6'2" - don't buy it. Model Y is your car if you want an EV
2) My car was "mostly" okay but it never felt like a premium vehicle for what it cost me in 2019 even after rebates for a small sedan.
3) UI used to be great, now not so much with their recent V11 release. It was so bad when it was launched that they started introducing the features back that they took away from V10.
4) Not a lot of certified body shops so if you get into an accident, prepare to be without your car for weeks. Not months anymore, but weeks.
5) NO REAR CROSS TRAFFIC ALERT. NO PROPER BLIND SPOT MONITORING.

I personally didn't go with a Model Y as it didn't feel as sporty as Model 3. The Y felt like it just gained a lot of weight without gaining any muscle mass, if you will. A powerful car, yes. Very economical (you get a real world 270-290 mile range car for $45,000) if you have home charging setup. I went with a German performance SUV for the next 3 years. And that's definitely going to not have that much resale value, but, I decided to wait for my next EV for a bit hoping for a complete redesign of Model Y or another manufacturer coming up with an affordable 350 mile real world range EV.

Lastly, I'd say that Tesla is the best "EV" you can buy. But it is not the best "car" you can buy today even for $32000. So, if you are going EV, absolutely buy Tesla, you will be quite happy you did. But if you are thinking about buying Tesla as a car (and you don't mind paying for gasoline), absolutely stay away from Tesla because there are way better options out there.
Last edited by stealthytolkien June 4, 2023 at 09:20 AM.

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Pckohn
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Did Henry Ford offer tax credits?

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