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frontpage Posted by krispytreat007 • Jun 2, 2023

2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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Rawimpact
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Quote from flightxxx :
any chance CA will create a state incentive to buy EV cars ? (with no income limitations)
You want tax payers in California to subsidize your premium vehicle purchase without disclosing your income? This is why people in CA are leaving…
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ggapropros
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Quote from flightxxx :
any chance CA will create a state incentive to buy EV cars ? (with no income limitations)
with no income limitations? no. the reality is that new car prices are at $40,000 in california right now. The model 3 is now $38,000 without incentives, and you will save thousands on fuel per year. its by far the best new car value. even if i was making $50k a year i would buy a model 3 because the savings over year will add up so much.

Go look at carvana and in california a 5 year old accord with no warranty and 50k miles will sell for $30,000 all day long. The prices here should be illegal. its pure scalping.
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HeyItsCosmo
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This is so funny 😂🤣
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Binar
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Quote from flightxxx :
any chance CA will create a state incentive to buy EV cars ? (with no income limitations)
Everything is politically motivated. Do you see the scenario above being a reality in any situation? Slim chances. I'd rather see them do a cap on the price of EV's or a very generous buy back ICE program contingent of buying an EV.
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StankNasty411
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Quote from ggapropros :
Nah dude all you gotta do is frack, drill 10 miles down and then 10 miles horizontally once youre 10 miles down. Couldnt be easier! The stuff is EVERYWHERE!
Nah, bro, what you gotta do is pay millions of people thousands of dollars each to all buy EVs to plug into a grid that struggles to produce enough power just to keep air conditioners running, let alone translating our liquid fuel fleet into electrical load on top of that.

Trust me, I watched a YouTube of an engineer who said everything's been debunked.
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Powza
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Quote from Rawimpact :
You want tax payers in California to subsidize your premium vehicle purchase without disclosing your income? This is why people in CA are leaving…
Premium vehicle? Check the thread title, we are talking about Model 3 here. It doesn't even have parking sensors.
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Brener
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Quote from Rawimpact :
You want tax payers in California to subsidize your premium vehicle purchase without disclosing your income? This is why people in CA are leaving…
Good riddance to them lol. Enjoy the dirty south 😂
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flightxxx
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Quote from Binar :
Everything is politically motivated. Do you see the scenario above being a reality in any situation? Slim chances. I'd rather see them do a cap on the price of EV's or a very generous buy back ICE program contingent of buying an EV.
in New jersey you get $4,000 discount for new ev purchase. why can't CA do something similar? (it would incentivize EV purchase over gas vehicles)
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StankNasty411
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I just find it hilarious about 30% of our total energy consumption is liquid fuels for roadway vehicles, and that we can plug that into the grid with no issues. You're going to have cities where the electrical load doubles in the next 10-20 years with minimal population growth.

I consulted an engineer on YouTube who said this will be fine.
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geoffkin
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Quote from flightxxx :
in New jersey you get $4,000 discount for new ev purchase. why can't CA do something similar? (it would incentivize EV purchase over gas vehicles)
CA DID. We got $2,500 from CA and $7,500 back from FED in 2019..
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SavePeons
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More wait time and surcharge (Cost depending on time of day) for Tesla and Co

1 year ago was $7 full charge
This year is $17 full charge
Next year?
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ggapropros
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Quote from StankNasty411 :
Nah, bro, what you gotta do is pay millions of people thousands of dollars each to all buy EVs to plug into a grid that struggles to produce enough power just to keep air conditioners running, let alone translating our liquid fuel fleet into electrical load on top of that.

Trust me, I watched a YouTube of an engineer who said everything's been debunked.
what kind of dumbass EV owner is charging during the day? thats when im using my EV

i charge my ev when im not using it at night when baseload power plants are running and literally just discharging energy into thin air because no one is using it.
Last edited by ggapropros June 4, 2023 at 02:57 PM.
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ggapropros
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Quote from SavePeons :
More wait time and surcharge (Cost depending on time of day) for Tesla and Co

1 year ago was $7 full charge
This year is $17 full charge
Next year?
Whats scarier than Tesla&Co is a publicly traded company called Saudi Aramco

1. Apple 2.86 trillion market cap
2. microsoft 2.49 trillion market cap
3. Saudi Aramco 2.04 trillion market cap

The executives there raise the oil price as much as possible year after year, they see the writing on the wall, there will be an inflection point where everyone is going to not be able to afford their gas guzzler SUVs/Trucks, and americans will be scrambling to buy EVs because they cant afford to drive to work anymore. The people stuck with gas cars for whatever reason will be bled dry by saudi aramco.
Last edited by ggapropros June 4, 2023 at 02:58 PM.
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geoffkin
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Quote from ggapropros :
what kind of dumbass EV owner is charging during the day? thats when im using my EV

i charge my ev when im not using it. when im asleep. what a crazy concept.
As we can see, some people are too dumb to drive an EV.
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geoffkin
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Quote from StankNasty411 :
Yep, I do. Feel free to read up on copper mining. 20 years from discovery to a mine. And most production is in Peru and Chile. There's a reason why car manufacturers are buying production streams from miners: there's not enough metal.

Grid growth. That's hilarious. We're having energy emergencies with regularity. The first controlled blackouts in the history of the Great Plains occurred a couple years ago. Reason? Not enough power generation. Texas was 4 minutes and 22 seconds from cascading blackouts that would've taken weeks to restore.

That was with EVs being a negligible part of the auto market. You do realize electrical transformers "pop" in the summer due to hot temperatures and air conditioning load, right? Of course you had no idea. So if you add load by plugging in an EV, that's going to further strain the distribution system.

So if a neighborhood with no EVs already has transformers under stress with a typical summer afternoon, why wouldn't that neighborhood have a bigger problem if 20% of the homes suddenly plugged in EVs?
You may or may not know everything about mines and oil, but you FOR SURE know almost nothing about EVs. NO ONE charges their car at PEAK times, it costs too much.. Those 20% EVs charging will be overnight when it's cheap, when there is a big excess of electricity..
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