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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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sujaisundar
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Quote from runachoi :
Your Order Fee goes toward to your Car Price. it shows -250 when you look at the break down on your Final Out the Door price.
Do you see the payment you did through your credit card in any line ?
Jun 7, 2023
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R_Deals
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Quote from gen2 :
Cheaper than a Camry or Accord
But camry and accord are different category , you can compare this with corolla or civic
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EdEd1190
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Quote from arl16 :
$21.8k for Bolt EUV or $33.4k for Model 3? Same range….
The Bolt has to be bought at a Dealership, which mean lots of pricing games. Go to the Dealership, spend all day playing games, and once they wear you out, let us know how much the real price of that Bolt is.
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EdEd1190
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Quote from R_Deals :
But camry and accord are different category , you can compare this with corolla or civic
Not sure I'd compare the Model 3 to a Corolla or Civic, but whatever.
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guguforyou
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When people say you have to owe the tax to be able to get the credit, does that mean I have to intentionally adjust my employer's withholding so I underpay and have a tax bill of $7,500 when filing taxes, or can I just keep my withholding as it and I'll receive the $7,500 credit because I paid more than $7,500 in payroll withholdings?
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twoweeled
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Quote from R_Deals :
But camry and accord are different category , you can compare this with corolla or civic
The only people who believe Tesla is comparable to corolla or civic, are the Telsa haters. And even the Tesla haters know that isn't true. Nobody believes that. LMAO Even auto magazines will compare to Camry "hybrid." But whatever floats your boat. LMAO
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nafaught
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Quote from guguforyou :
When people say you have to owe the tax to be able to get the credit, does that mean I have to intentionally adjust my employer's withholding so I underpay and have a tax bill of $7,500 when filing taxes, or can I just keep my withholding as it and I'll receive the $7,500 credit because I paid more than $7,500 in payroll withholdings?
This is my exact question.

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RickRupps
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i called my accountant, they said yes u can adjust where u will own less money to federal right now and bigger refund during filling taxes, but sometimes IRS does not like that specially if u earn a lot, and if they notice there is chance they will make u do advance Quartey payments
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WarlockLord
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Quote from nafaught :
This is my exact question.
If you DON'T withhold, you will not owe that $7500 at the end of the year but will not receive any refund. If you withhold the $7500, you'll receive that $7500 as a refund as long as you have at least $7500 in tax liability.
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RickRupps
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Quote from nafaught :
This is my exact question.
Quote from guguforyou :
When people say you have to owe the tax to be able to get the credit, does that mean I have to intentionally adjust my employer's withholding so I underpay and have a tax bill of $7,500 when filing taxes, or can I just keep my withholding as it and I'll receive the $7,500 credit because I paid more than $7,500 in payroll withholdings?
i called my accountant, they said yes u can adjust where u will own less money to federal right now and bigger refund during filling taxes, but sometimes IRS does not like that specially if u earn a lot, and if they notice there is chance they will make u do advance Quartey payments
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91LT250R
Jun 7, 2023
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The price is finally catching up with the 90's Kia build quality. Still not sure why anybody would want one though.
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Knightshade
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Quote from guguforyou :
When people say you have to owe the tax to be able to get the credit, does that mean I have to intentionally adjust my employer's withholding so I underpay and have a tax bill of $7,500 when filing taxes, or can I just keep my withholding as it and I'll receive the $7,500 credit because I paid more than $7,500 in payroll withholdings?
For the 932nd time in this thread alone- withholdings have nothing to do with qualifying for the tax credit.

Look at line 18 of your 1040. Is that more than $7500? Then you have enough tax liability to take the full credit.


Quote from SiamakJ :
I used EV tax credit in 2022 on a used EV purchase in CA , Am I still eligible to use this opportunity and buy a new Tesla ? ( Googled it and didn't find a solid yes or no). Wondering if we have a Tax expert here who can answer this question...
State credits have nothing to do with qualifying for the federal one the thread is about




Quote from arl16 :
$21.8k for Bolt EUV or $33.4k for Model 3? Same range….

Inventory 3 is under 30k after federal tax credit-- even cheaper if you have a state credit.

As to bolt- the range is less (259 vs 272), there's no useful fast charging (50kw vs 250kw and massively fewer bolt chargers exist), performance is significantly worse.... and good luck finding a dealer to actually sell you a base model at MSRP in the first place.


if you CAN find a base model bolt, and it meets all your needs, it's indeed a great deal on a city/local only EV.... but quite a few folks in the bolt thread reporting no dealer for hundreds of miles is willing to do that--- shrinking the price difference between the bolt and the 3 to just a couple grand, and for most that's not worth taking the demonstrably inferior spec car that sucks for non-local driving.



Quote from bengt87 :
In 6 months you will get the $7,500 instantly at purchase plus a refreshed model 3.
IF whatever trick they're using to qualify the RWD 3 still works next year. That's not a for sure thing.

Likewise every previous time Tesla refreshed a car they raised the price on the new one. If the changes are worth it to you or not will be a YMMV thing.




Quote from 91LT250R :
. Still not sure why anybody would want one though.

I mean, it's the best selling mid-sized sedan in the world (and second best selling of ANY size) so you might want to consider there's something you are missing that many others have understood?
Last edited by Knightshade June 7, 2023 at 06:59 AM.
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Russroyal
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But camry and accord are different category , you can compare this with corolla or civic
Not true unless you mean they are gas cars not electric, either you have never driven one or have a different agenda. The base Tesla model 3 has more front head and leg room than the Camry but slightly less rear leg room but the 3 has more cargo room, definitely comparable. Tesla gets more than double the equivalent gas cost economy (MPGE 52 vs 127) compared to the best rated Camry Hybrid and Honda. The base model 3 Tesla is very roomy compared to the Accord and Camry plus goes 0-60 in the 5 second range and the Camry and Honda are in the 7 second range. Unless you buy a BMW built new Toyota Supra the base Tesla 3 is more powerful than all the rest of the Toyotas but the Tesla Performance 3 will easily outrun even that fastest new Supra. If safety matters more than performance the Teslas are rated to be as safe or even safer than any other car on the road with 5 stars across the board. The Tesla base Model 3 has a 4/50k bumper to bumper warranty and 8/100 battery drivetrain warranty while the Toyota only has a 3/36k bumper to bumper and 5/60k power train. All Teslas come standard with Autopilot, even the most base Tesla has more equipment included as standard than most cars. Tesla is very hard to beat if you actually look at them.
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pokhrd
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Anyone who placed the order, can you please share what are the taxes and fees? Even better if you are in CA.

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geekwithoutacause
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Quote from Knightshade :
For those who prefer hard industry data rather than random surveys of a handful of CR subscribers, we also have the actual warranty claims rates of the two brands.


https://www.warrantyweek.com/arch...y%20claims.

As a company Fords warranty claims rate (as a percentage of sales) was 3.6% in 2020 and 2.9% in 2021.

As a company Teslas warranty claims rate (as a percentage of sales) was 1.1% in 2020 and 1.1% in 2021.

Nobody else selling cars in the US was as good as Tesla in 2020 (second place was Toyota at 1.4%) and Tesla was 2nd place in 2021 (1.1% versus Toyota at 1.0%)



As evidenced by the actual warranty claims rates- most folks mentioning "quality" issues on Tesla are people who saw a video about some exterior panel gap in 2018 or something.... not people having actual car-broke-down issues in 2023. Not to say either NEVER happens anymore- but we know from data it does not happen roughly 99% of the time.



DISCLAIMER- This is the entire brand... so obviously for Ford it will skew almost entirely based on warranty claims on gas and hybrid vehicles, rather than pure EVs- especially since the most recent data is from 2021 when the Mach E had barely been on sale. But given their current EVS re-use a lot of ICE parts and technology (see Munros teardowns of the cooling systems of a Mach E vs a Tesla for an eye opener there) it'd be somewhat surprising if their warranty rates improve dramatically in the near future. Possibly in several more years as they start rolling out purpose-built EVs with all new designs that may improve.
Not so sure you can compare it that way. Ev's are way more simple and use many different parts than ice vehicles. Also, the percentage of ford ev's versus ford non ev's is so big you can't make sense of the compares. It's hard to tell , I think it's mote a case of the people with tesla issues scream the loudest and get publicity. Sure they have quality issues that are quite obvious by just looking at the outside but....

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