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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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Jun 8, 2023
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bhavyesh
Jun 8, 2023
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Quote from Cherub :
On one hand, WTF!!! I just bought on Monday and now $1,200 off just a few days later?! I was watching prices for two months and still missed it.

On the other hand, I would be thrilled to see the full tax credit available again on the non-Performance 3, but according to the IRS, the credit is still $3,750. See here [fueleconomy.gov]. This is current as of 6/1, so unless something changed since yesterday (and there is no news supporting this), it sounds like an error.
They are changing the model look for 2024. so that's why they dumping all the 2023 model 3 in a market just like any other dealership would.
Jun 8, 2023
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Traxxremixpool
Jun 8, 2023
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Question on the tax credit. If you get a check back from taxes every year how does this credit work? Does it just lower your taxable income which would in turn increase your refund by a small amount?
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dbernie41
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Quote from Traxxremixpool :
Question on the tax credit. If you get a check back from taxes every year how does this credit work? Does it just lower your taxable income which would in turn increase your refund by a small amount?
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Knightshade
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Quote from Traxxremixpool :
Question on the tax credit. If you get a check back from taxes every year how does this credit work? Does it just lower your taxable income which would in turn increase your refund by a small amount?

It's a non-refundable credit.

It comes off the amount you owe on line 18 of your 1040 dollar for dollar.

Your usual refund (if you get one, and how much) tells you literally nothing about how much of the $7500 credit you can use because none of that is relevant until much later on your tax return.

Line 18 on the 1040 is what you need to look at. If it's $7500 or more, and you have no other non-refundable credits, you get the full amount.

If all of the above is true for your return, and nothing else changes, your refund, for someone who normally gets one, would then, further down the form, be $7500 larger than it otherwise would be.

If your line 18 is less than 7500 then you will only get the amount on that line "extra"
Last edited by Knightshade June 8, 2023 at 09:09 AM.
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fiveoh
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Weak. Porsche gang all the way.
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Knightshade
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Quote from fiveoh :
Weak. Porsche gang all the way.

Why do you want to pay more money for a slower car?

The Plaid recently crushed their Nürburgring time by over 8 seconds-

https://www.motortrend.com/news/t...cord-2023/
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usb1
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Model 3 Long Range vs Model 3 RWD

Do i miss anything later by buying Model 3 RWD instead of Model 3 Long Range ?

Inventory | Tesla




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nrg
Jun 8, 2023
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not so much of a deal for my situation. I'd only get back 4500 + 2k from CA. therefore, I'll have a shinny EV for about 35k.
39K + 3k tax - 4500 - 2 = 35k car. plus $200 a month on insurance. Save maybe about 1k a year by not using gas. .25-35 a kwh at home charging. I'm not saving much at all. the EV for me in California is comparable to a 25k ICE car that gets 30mpg.

My Prius plugin gets 70mpg and I spend about 1k in gas a year. car cost nothing, insurance is $86 full conv a month.
Current prius, cost: 2k a year to use. lets say I keep it for 5years. = 10k cost out of pocket.
new tesla, cost 2400 a year in insurance. 35k / 5 = 7k a year to own the car. + 2400 a year in insurance. 9400 a year to own a model 3.

2k a year prius vs 9400 a year owning a model 3.

filling up gas and doing oil changes vs charging and no oil changes. (tires and brakes are the same on both cars)

Only real benefit is TIME that you gain by not doing ICE maintance and gas filling up.

Yea.... being on this forums... spending 7400 isn't a SLICKDEAL. I'd keep my prius plugin. =D
Last edited by nrg June 8, 2023 at 09:56 AM.
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Knightshade
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Quote from usb1 :
Model 3 Long Range vs Model 3 RWD

Do i miss anything later by buying Model 3 RWD instead of Model 3 Long Range ?

Inventory | Tesla

You miss AWD and significantly quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.... slightly higher top speed (140 vs 145), and the more range obviously... you also miss floor mats, fog lights, and the stereo isn't as good (has no subwoofer, no sub amp, and I think 1 less speaker)
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DealDonkey
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Quote from arl16 :
Would there be any good reason to buy Model Y over M3 ?
yes, for its space.
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Quote from Knightshade :
You miss AWD and significantly quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.... slightly higher top speed (140 vs 145), and the more range obviously... you also miss floor mats, fog lights, and the stereo isn't as good (has no subwoofer, no sub amp, and I think 1 less speaker)
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Deal_Breaker2
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Quote from nrg :
not so much of a deal for my situation. I'd only get back 4500 + 2k from CA. therefore, I'll have a shinny EV for about 35k.
39K + 3k tax - 4500 - 2 = 35k car. plus $200 a month on insurance. Save maybe about 1k a year by not using gas. .25-35 a kwh at home charging. I'm not saving much at all. the EV for me in California is comparable to a 25k ICE car that gets 30mpg.

My Prius plugin gets 70mpg and I spend about 1k in gas a year. car cost nothing, insurance is $86 full conv a month.
Current prius, cost: 2k a year to use. lets say I keep it for 5years. = 10k cost out of pocket.
new tesla, cost 2400 a year in insurance. 35k / 5 = 7k a year to own the car. + 2400 a year in insurance. 9400 a year to own a model 3.

2k a year prius vs 9400 a year owning a model 3.

filling up gas and doing oil changes vs charging and no oil changes. (tires and brakes are the same on both cars)

Only real benefit is TIME that you gain by not doing ICE maintance and gas filling up.

Yea.... being on this forums... spending 7400 isn't a SLICKDEAL. I'd keep my prius plugin. =D
$2400 per year for Tesla insurance seems steep. I'm paying $900 for comprehensive coverage with $500 deductible.
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ggapropros
Jun 8, 2023
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Quote from Dr. J :
*at specific superchargers
*only a certain % of battery is charged.

You leave that all out. You do that because naive people will see "100 miles in 10 minutes" and assume that you can "fill up" 300 miles in 30. You can't. Why? Bad for the battery.
"Bad for the battery" link to where it says that on tesla.com? i dont think you could pass a high school chemistry class.. so just wondering what led you to believe this
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ggapropros
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Quote from oakraiders510 :
DEAL NOT APPROVED



EDIT: DEAL NOT APPROVED


EV not a deal.


From the office of oakraiders510
now this guy might sound like a caveman shouting random words over and over in this thread.. but he is in fact making an argument that is equally as compelling as his anti EV knuckle dragging compatriots.
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nrg
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Quote from jsr16 :
Too good of a deal to not get!

In CA, the price would be about $24,230 for me since I qualify for both the Fed EV for $7.5k and the CA CVRP also $7.5k.
Factor in $9k that I can get by selling my paid off POS Prius and I'm looking at around $18k after taxes for a brand new Tesla!

Hard to beat!
How is that even possible?

for someone to get the full cvrp 7.5k, one has to be in the 400% 2022 federal poverty level. https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/pover...guidelines For someone to be in that, they do not owe any federals taxes because they make under 30k. https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...sed-rebate
Fed EV is up to $7500 so that means you have to owe taxes to get the full amount.
also, you need to live in a disadvantage community.
this is for the cvrp assisted grant https://cleanvehiclegrants.org/eligibility/

ppl that make under 30k will use standard deduction $3500 rate.

the Fed ev is a non refundable rebate. It takes your taxes you owe (tax liability is lines 16 through 24) and deduct from there. which brings you down to zero. Now if you withheld taxes for that year, you get that back too.

I spoke to my CPA and there's no way one can get both full 7500 from fed and cvrp. that's bs in your post.

most average ppl that have reg salary jobs 20-30 an hr will have pay about 7k in taxes a year would only get pretty close to $7500 and the 2k from cvrp.

anyone that gets higher salary will get less from the fed ev and the 2k.

It's pretty simple.

Everyone running to get the tesla think it's a flat rebate. wrong!
They're going to get a rude awaking next year when they try to file their taxes.
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