Beginning in 2024, everyone under the income limit qualifies for the full $7,500 rebate. It does not matter if you owe less than that in taxes, and you can get it at the time of purchase instead of waiting for next year's taxes.
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2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install
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edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].
Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.
Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
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What ends up happening when you have EV and ICE is that you barely drive the ICE.
https://chooseev.com/savings-calculator/
It's a great car and if you can actually find one at MSRP (maybe a 5% chance) then buy it! Inventory is extremely low and a Chevy dealer can't guarantee you'll ever get one by the time they're discontinued. The EVSE install is also a joke unless you have the panel already in your garage. If not, you'll get bent over by the qmerit bid process.
Those comparing the bolt to the model 3, there's a reason the Tesla is still more. Much better tech, better seats, looks better, not discontinued, wayyyyyy faster DC charging
https://dep.nj.gov/drivegreen/aff...new-jersey
and
https://chargeup.njclea
The Charge Up New Jersey program to incentivize electric vehicles has paused as of April 17th, 2023. Dealerships and showrooms had until 9:00pm EST on Monday, May 1st, 2023 to enter all eligible orders from July 25th, 2022 to April 17th, 2023.
Currently, no additional funds are anticipated for FY 23. However, we will keep you updated on information regarding FY 24 funding for Charge Up New Jersey as directed by the NJ Board of Public Utilities.
The Charge Up Residential Charger Rebate remains active and is not impacted by the pause in the EV incentive program.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact CSE at [email protected] or call 877-426-2474.
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No more $4000 from NJ incentivize EV for now.
Is there any news on when NJ will resume this $4000 EV program?
I watched that movie "Blackberry" today and going electric seems like it's going from the Iphone back to the Blackberry with the physical keyboard and trackpad. I don't get how anyone thinks it's the future. If you watch anything like Shark Tank, if anyone took an idea for an EV company to the show, assuming this was a world where EVs didn't exist and only gas cars did, you would be laughed out of the room. "The car takes an 8 hours to slow charge at home, 30 minutes to an hour to charge at a fast charger, but only to 80%, but don't do it all the time, it will damage the battery. You will probably need a house to charge your car. The battery costs $20,000 to replace. On the plus side, maintenance is minimal but the car is heavier than a gas car. Range is affected in the winter."
The response from Kevin and Mark would probably be like, "I can fill up my gas tank in two minutes, why would anyone invest in this? You said maintenance is minimal but an EV has the same brakes, suspension, electrical components, a 12 volt battery and tires as a gas car and we know those definitely are going to need maintenance. The battery is over $20K to replace...who would buy this over a gas car? What is better about it? I'm out..."
I don't get it. I really don't. Don't call me stupid or uninformed, not going to work. There's like a cult-like mentality about electric in that people think that EVs are better because they're different, they don't have engine noise(although a Tesla next to me stopped at a light was making rumbling noises, don't ask me how or why) and because people think waiting to charge is somehow a religious experience or something, LOL.
Did I mention each car takes the equivalent of three house's daily energy demands to recharge? That's wild.
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Electrical code is for 80% of breaker rating for continuous loads. 50 amp breaker supports max 40 amp EVSE plugged into it. A garage 120v 20a would have a 16amp continuous charge load. A hardwired 48amp EVSE needs a 60p breaker. And so on.
If you put a 40a breaker on a 50a receptacle, it does not matter if you only plug in a 32a load. It's out of compliance because it's a general purpose 50a outlet that *could* have anything plugged into it up to 50a (or 40a continuous.)
This claim is grossly false unless you're dishonestly ignoring # of cars sold or something.
Your link lists 198 Tesla fires-- total.
Tesla had sold over 4 million EV by early this year.
That's roughly 5 fires per 100,000 cars sold.
The Chevy Bolt had 19 reported just by GM (source below)
https://www.wtae.com/article/chev...loved%20
And total Bolt sales at the time were about 140,000 (we know this from the size of the recall of "every" bolt ever)
That's roughly 13 fires per 100,000 cars sold.
In other words Bolts catch on fire over 2.5 times more often than Teslas do.
And again that's ONLY using GM-reported known fires.
For added perspective of course, gasoline cars catch on fire at a rate of 1529.9 per 100,000 cars sold. INSANELY more often than any EV.
Citation for the fire rates of gas cars:
https://www.nextbigfutu
Hybrid cars, as always, are the worst of all worlds- catching on fire more than 2x as often as even gas cars, which are already terrible compared to real EVs.
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